Skip to comments.Paul Walker Died in 'Most Dangerous Car on the Road'
Posted on 12/03/2013 9:31:33 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
(Newser) – Paul Walker died in a Porsche Carrera GT, a car that a former manager at the car company has called "crazy" and "the most dangerous car on the road," Jalopnik reports. And that's not the only eerie quote the site rounded up: A well-known Porsche test driver said the car was the first to actually scare him, and a Top Gear presenter noted, "You need to be awake to drive this car fast." It's been involved in a number of other headline-making incidents, including a fatal crash at the California Speedway. More on the car and Walker's crash:
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Some say the brain is connected to the foot.
Some , well, no lessons will be learned from this.
Another horrific crash will occur,,
Man is better off on hoof and ski..
Than stomping on the tail of a supercharged auto.
They only made Plymouth Superbirds for one year for that same reason.
Should have stuck with something safe like mass transit... oh, wait...
The Carrera GT is a very different animal. The suspension is set up very stiff (as Porsche said ‘as close to a real race car as you will ever get’). There are a lot of people out there honestly who really don’t know how to drive fast.
It takes skill and the ability to know when approach a turn at the right speed to achieve the apex and maximum velocity going out of a corner, applying just the right amount of gas to keep the tires from spinning. Slow in - fast out.
Mid-engined cars, like rear engined, can have the rear end pop out when foolish with the accelerator (both accelerating and decelerating).
Porsche made another car that was dubbed the widowmaker also, it was the 930 (911 Turbo) in the 70’s up until the car became all wheel drive. Now, you have the 996 GT2 and the Carrera GT holding those titles.
Same is true of a McLaren......
While I drive an almost new Porsche, it’s one of the most forgiving one’s they make. Not as fast as the GT but plenty fast - and a lot more fun to drive........ and just the opposite on the dangerous scale from the GT.
When did they start calling “fishtailing” “drifting?”
The fact that the car burst into flames is bizarre. That usually only happens in the movies.
I dozed off,, huh? OH, mass transit,, makes ya wonder where all the dough for track safety goes. The train should have been equipped with an auto braking system.. a non-breathing one. wanna bet, unions block its use?
The old standard applies:
‘Just because a man drives a Ferrari, it does not make him a Ferrari driver.’
When they started calling it a sport.
It has a lot of traction until it has...no traction...mid-engined, so low polar moment of inertia...and a-spinning you go.
A 3000 pound car with 620+ hp and the above characteristics is not for everyone.
—When did they start calling fishtailing drifting?—
Youse guys must be quite young! It’s been called “drifting” since at least the Fifties. That’s how it was referred to by all the pro sports car racers back then.
Fishtailing and drifting are two different things.
So sad, but at least he and the guy driving killed themselves before they killed anyway else.
This was no movie with stunt guys. This was an actor who got too close to his movies. How man other kids have been caught in the Fast and Furious mind set. How many dollars have been spent trying to turn Toyotas and Honda’s into race cars.
These movies have a result. The results got this man killed.
Ah yes, the low polar moment of inertia.
I always told people that the removable roof of my 914 was so you could throw your arms in the air and scream when it let go, because nothing else was going to help.
I call BS. No way that kind of damage and fire comes from a 45 MPH crash.
Yes, and it was mostly done on dirt tracks, too. When you got to asphalt, you didn't want to drift as much, as you didn't go as fast doing so.
BS, just another liberal weenie spouting off. Its the driver behind the wheel that makes a car dangerous, just like a gun, its the person holding it that makes it dangerous.
Drive like hell. You’ll get there faster.
I guess since Paul Walker played an outlaw racer in movies, he thought he was one in real life?
Fishtailing is wagging back and forth; drifting is turning in one direction for a significant duration.
” call BS. No way that kind of damage and fire comes from a 45 MPH crash.”
Just a hunch, but I bet the owner removed the “sack” in the fuel tank to shed weight.
I also bet there were some
For the record, I own:
Porsche 550 (a real one, thank you, with proper engine — and a bare aluminium gas tank, which is why I am aware of this issue)
Two 356s (an A and a C Couple)
Porsche 993 S (my favorite)
998S (my daily driver)
Other claims do exist.
According to local investigators, Paul Walkers friend Roger Rodas was driving over 100 mph in the moments before the crash that tragically claimed two young lives. Find out the latest news on this unspeakable tragedy below.
Wait, he died when he was only going 45? What a deathtrap, there’s no reason anyone should die at those speeds.
“Yes, and it was mostly done on dirt tracks, too. When you got to asphalt, you didn’t want to drift as much, as you didn’t go as fast doing so.”
Oh, I don’t know,,,, on a dirt track, you wanted your front tires on the “smooth” part of the track, but wanted your right rear tire against the cushion. That’s a bit different.
Way back when, “drifting” the right corners was the fastest way through. But as technology and design changed, it became less so. I raced karts as a kid, both on dirt and asphalt. Dirt was much more fun!
But you’re right to say “drift as much.” But they still did drift. As tech and designs changed, so did cornering style. The style had little to do with today’s “sport” of “Drifting.”
I bow before your greatness.
A Subaru STI is the best I can do.
All cars are dangerous when exceeding the speed limits by more than 100%
The Porsche Carrera GT was one of the very last Porsche models that lacks the modern vehicle stability and traction controls designed to keep drivers from dangerous oversteer or understeer. Indeed, if you drive the current-model Porsche 911 GT3 or 911 Turbo, it’s very hard to get into a dangerous handling situation due to modern stability and tracition controls on the drivetrain.
How much does the fuel cell bladder weigh? Wow what a dumbass Hollyweird thing to do.
Actually the Superbird was only made for one year in order to homologate it for NASCAR competition. And quite a few of them were converted into regular-issue Road Runners by dealers in order to get them out of their inventory.
the road where the crash occurred is covered in reflective dots.
Quick! Sue the taxpayers who own the road!
Given that diesel-electric locomotives were in use for close to thirty years before unions dropped their requirements that engine crews included a fireman (which is only necessary on a steam locomotive), I’d bet my life savings on them fighting automated brakes tooth and nail.
Drifting is the synchronized swimming of the motorsports world.
Some people can break a crowbar in a sandbox and lose one of the pieces.
Oh, it happens. I know of several cases where the occupants were trapped in the wreckage — but fully conscious (and talking) up to the point the fire killed them.
James Dean died crashing his 1955 Porsche Speedster.
Especially when experiencing the physics of trailing throttle oversteer.
It's clear that the car hit the tree at a high rate of speed. A stuck throttle can be overcome by bearing down on the clutch but this car has so much power the driver might not have reacted quick enough to avoid a spin-out, thus striking a pole and tree.
Drifting, as defined today, is VERY different from a four-wheel drift. A four-wheel drift involves a lot less slip angle than today’s drifting, and back in the days of hard bias-ply tires and no wings you had to do it to turn fast laps.
Mechanical failure behind Paul Walker crash: report
NY POST ^ | December 2, 2013 | 10:30am | By Bob Fredericks
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:21:13 PM by Red Badger
The trouble-prone Porsche that “Fast & Furious” star Paul Walker was riding in when he died in a crash suffered a mechanical failure that was likely caused by a power steering fluid leak, a new report said Monday.
It looks to me like they impacted a relatively small diameter well rooted tree. It cut through the chassis like a knife.
fishtailing is something that occurs when the back end starts weaving as you’re driving on the road.
drifting is when you have the brakes applied, you aren’t driving forward, and the back end loses traction and the tires spin, and you go in an arc pivoting around the front of the car that is stationary/pivot point.