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Top doctor: 'Gay' blood will taint U.S. supply
wnd.com ^ | 12/03/2013 | CHELSEA SCHILLING

Posted on 12/03/2013 7:12:26 PM PST by massmike

Should homosexual men – a group with the highest HIV-infection rates in the nation – be allowed to donate blood?

That’s the question the federal government is considering this week as it re-evaluates whether it should lift the 30-year ban on homosexual blood donation.

“CDC estimates that MSM represent approximated 4 percent of the male population in the United States, but male-to-male sex accounted for more than three-fourths (78 percent) of new HIV infections among men and nearly two-thirds (63 percent) of all new infections in 2010.”

The American Red Cross warns: “HIV antibodies may take a few weeks to develop after infection with the virus. If you were recently infected, you might have a negative test result, yet be able to infect the recipient of your donation. That is why you must not give blood if you are at risk of getting AIDS or other infectious diseases.”

Nonetheless, a petition a WhiteHouse.gov, created in November by students at the University of Michigan, claims the FDA policy is “discriminatory and inadequate.”

Dr. Jay Brooks, an expert in blood banking and transfusion at the University of Florida’s College of Medicine, told WND, “Yes, people need blood, but taking blood from men who’ve had sex from men since 1977 is not going to increase the blood supply substantially.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: aids; blooddonors; homosexualagenda; medicine
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1 posted on 12/03/2013 7:12:26 PM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

no and F*** NO


2 posted on 12/03/2013 7:13:22 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: massmike

If they allow fags to donate they will irreparably contaminate the supply and it will need to be destroyed. It WILL be destroyed - all of it.


3 posted on 12/03/2013 7:15:31 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: massmike

PC insanity.


4 posted on 12/03/2013 7:18:38 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: massmike
It tainted the blood platelet supply and then the "Hepatitis" outbreak began.

This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


5 posted on 12/03/2013 7:19:58 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: massmike

unbelievable. why not let IV drug abusers donate too?


6 posted on 12/03/2013 7:20:53 PM PST by RC one
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To: massmike
Why don't we import blood from Africa while we're at it?

7 posted on 12/03/2013 7:24:05 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: massmike

If a person doesn’t take blood transfusions then they won’t have that possibility of contracting AIDS.


8 posted on 12/03/2013 7:26:35 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: massmike

As long as it takes to detect HIV after exposure, to allow a segment of the population with the high HIV transmission rates to donate blood is pure insanity.

The stupidity of this once great nation never ceases to amaze me.


9 posted on 12/03/2013 7:27:05 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: massmike

Can someone explain why they would even want to donate blood? Donating blood is not my favorite sport.


10 posted on 12/03/2013 7:28:14 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: ottbmare

Bug-chasing, of a sort.


11 posted on 12/03/2013 7:30:11 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: bigheadfred

How about homosexual blood donations be given to other homosexual men.


12 posted on 12/03/2013 7:31:00 PM PST by staytrue
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To: count-your-change

I can’t think of any better reason to live a healthy lifestyle and to be extremely careful on and off the job.


13 posted on 12/03/2013 7:32:06 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ottbmare

donating blood is good for you.

It is why using leeches (when done in moderation) actually worked.

Basically, the human body was designed to suffer occasion loss of blood.

This is not true for women who lose blood monthly anyway.


14 posted on 12/03/2013 7:32:54 PM PST by staytrue
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To: RC one

Wait.


15 posted on 12/03/2013 7:33:00 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: massmike

There’s nothing “gay” about deliberately risking others to their self abused poisoned blood.


16 posted on 12/03/2013 7:33:12 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: staytrue

what happens in gaysville really should stay in gaysville


17 posted on 12/03/2013 7:35:12 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: staytrue
This is not true for women who lose blood monthly anyway.

i really really really disagree

18 posted on 12/03/2013 7:37:46 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: massmike

How else will the ghouls who want to reduce the population by 80% realize their Utopian dreams except by poisoning people at the hospital with viral lingering death?
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that is the intended outcome.


19 posted on 12/03/2013 7:40:04 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

High morals and good habits has its rewards.


20 posted on 12/03/2013 7:40:23 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: massmike

What difference, at this point, does it make? The commoners don’t need blood transfusions, anyway.


21 posted on 12/03/2013 7:44:01 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Bug-chasing, of a sort.

Also “spreading the gift”.

Sick. Demonic.


22 posted on 12/03/2013 7:47:19 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: massmike
They only ask questions for which they have already decided the answer.
23 posted on 12/03/2013 7:48:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: massmike

Now people are claiming the “right” to donate blood. And they are taken seriously. What an odd country we are becoming.


24 posted on 12/03/2013 7:51:04 PM PST by PGR88
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To: massmike

A couple of quick thoughts here:

-HIV is the focus here, but it should be noted that the CDC’s numbers for gay/bi men regarding syphilis are almost identical to those for HIV. Syphilis can be just as much a killer as HIV.

-I would answer the argument for the justification for lifting the ban (i.e. we know more about the HIV virus, and can test for it better) with this question. If we allow gay men to donate blood when they are so high-risk, why not drop ALL restrictions? I mean, we can test the blood of shared needle drug users, men who have paid prostitutes for sex, and people who hail from certain sub-Saharan African nations (all three of which are forbidden to donate for the same basic reasons as gay men) just as easily as that of a gay man. Somehow, I think the advocates would be hard-pressed to come up with a good answer for that one.

-If it were really about anti-gay discrimination, the ban would extend to lesbians. It does not, as lesbians present a very low HIV risk. The bias argument holds no merit except in the minds of gay activists and brainwashed students who think diversity should trump sound medical policy.


25 posted on 12/03/2013 7:54:54 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Carbonsteel
Nonetheless, a petition a WhiteHouse.gov, created in November by students at the University of Michigan, claims the FDA policy is “discriminatory and inadequate.” The students want the federal government to merely ask prospective donors, “Have you had unprotected sexual contact with a new partner in the past 12 weeks?”

There's a list of people signing up for the gay blood bank.

While other advocates of homosexual blood donation have argued that MSM should be allowed to donate if they say they haven’t had sex with men in at least one to five years – the current guidelines in Britain and Canada – Brooks said any such deferral period presents yet another complication.

“Part of the problem, to me, is you’re asking gay men to be celibate for a year to donate blood – or five years,” he said. “I don’t think that’s going to happen. It’s certainly been documented in the medical literature that if we went to a one-year deferral period, it would not significantly add to the blood supply.”

The only stigma that homosexual men face is having to duck out of the workplace blood drives. Shouldn't be too hard. If they feel drawn to do public service, there are many other opportunities.

Being celibate or monogamous would probably be the biggest public service they could do, as a group. Not gonna happen.

26 posted on 12/03/2013 8:00:56 PM PST by heartwood
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To: PGR88

Not odd, but only suicidal.


27 posted on 12/03/2013 8:11:03 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: massmike

I’m working on my 11th gallon go good old American red blood. If they let homosexuals contaminate the supply, I’ll quit giving.


28 posted on 12/03/2013 8:14:07 PM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: massmike

In related news...

CDC: 62 Percent Of HIV-Positive Men Have Unprotected Sex
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3097846/posts

Wisconsin DNR Struggling To Curb Sex At Nude Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3097583/posts

Gay men push to end 30-year blood donation ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3097348/posts


29 posted on 12/03/2013 8:15:18 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: massmike

In fact, “CDC estimates that MSM represent approximated 4 percent of the male population in the United States, but male-to-male sex accounted for more than three-fourths (78 percent) of new HIV infections among men and nearly two-thirds (63 percent) of all new infections in 2010.”


30 posted on 12/03/2013 8:18:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: JT Hatter

I will stop donating, also. The reason why this is being pushed is because the number of people donating blood has been dropping over the years.

Blood donations lowest in 15 years, Red Cross says
30JUL2012
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/blood-donations-lowest-15-years-red-cross-says-916587

HHS report shows a decrease in blood supply but also a drop in demand
1DEC2013
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/1/hhs-report-shows-a-decrease-in-blood-supply-but-al/


31 posted on 12/03/2013 8:24:15 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: massmike

I remember reading about this in the news a couple of years ago.


32 posted on 12/03/2013 8:25:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Carbonsteel

putting politics before the good of the country as usual.


33 posted on 12/03/2013 8:41:44 PM PST by RC one
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To: staytrue

There is absolutely no medical evidence that the human body is designed to lose blood or that this is good for us. Leeches work sometimes for entirely different reasons. I doubt that an urgent need to divest themselves of excess blood is what makes some gay men wish to contribute to the blood supply.


34 posted on 12/03/2013 9:02:52 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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Only because we say they can’t. Homosexuals are developmentally stunted, they are stuck at the stage when kids want to break every rule just to be defiant.


35 posted on 12/03/2013 9:12:32 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: JT Hatter

Yeah, we’re all going to need our own blood to freeze in case we get hurt and need an uncontaminated supply.


36 posted on 12/03/2013 9:14:18 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ottbmare
Can someone explain why they would even want to donate blood? Donating blood is not my favorite sport.

Because they feel stigmatized with the ban. The doctor said it well:

......" We really can’t make exceptions for people because it hurts their feelings,” he said. “I think a lot of people see being able to donate blood as validation. That’s not our job. Validating people’s feelings is not our job. Our job is to ensure a safe blood supply.” "..........
37 posted on 12/03/2013 9:23:37 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: massmike

If someone was intent on massively spreading HIV throughout the population in this country - this is the way you would do it - by infecting the blood supply.


38 posted on 12/03/2013 9:29:54 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: massmike


This chart makes it obvious why the ban is in place. I was surprised, though, at the numbers in the black heterosexual population.
39 posted on 12/03/2013 9:39:40 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: ottbmare

Some nutritionists are saying red meat is good to eat but can leed to too much iron due to lack of bleeding.

Also donating blood temporarily causes about 1 lb of weight loss and lower blood pressure.

For people genetically disposed to excess iron, periodic blood letting is prescibed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_overload

from wiki: “Routine treatment in an otherwise-healthy person consists of regularly scheduled phlebotomies (bloodletting). When first diagnosed, the phlebotomies may be fairly frequent, perhaps as often as once a week, until iron levels can be brought to within normal range. Once iron and other markers are within the normal range, phlebotomies may be scheduled every other month or every three months depending upon the patient’s rate of iron loading.”


40 posted on 12/03/2013 9:57:17 PM PST by staytrue
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To: massmike

And the federal government is going to be rationing our health”care”.


41 posted on 12/03/2013 10:06:24 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: BitWielder1
Or Arkansas prisons. Or drain cadavers and call it “supravital collection”.
42 posted on 12/03/2013 11:01:08 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: massmike

mixing bacteria, feces, virus, semen creates constantly mutating dna hiv that can never be defeated...what the pervert homosexual community wants is to infect normal hiv free citizens so funding for aids wont decline...


43 posted on 12/04/2013 12:48:07 AM PST by Understand the stimulus
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To: The_Media_never_lie
There are more diseases that preclude people from giving blood than just HIV/Aids.

My husband's brother contracted one of them, no one knows where it is like a rabid form of mad cow disease. In 8 months he was a veggie and died soon after with huge holes in his brain. All his relatives and their families are forbidden to donate blood.

In fact they no longer will do family member to family member, DIL is semi rare A- needed a transfusion, her bro offered to donate his blood, was told that it had to go through a month long RC processing procedure. Doc nick a vein when he did her Mascetomy, and had to go back in and repair it. Only thing she ended up with was some dumb iron pills instead of the transfusion she needed.

44 posted on 12/04/2013 1:44:38 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: staytrue

It isn’t just blood that is shed.

I envy men because they don’t have to deal with menstruation and all the misery that goes along with it.


45 posted on 12/04/2013 2:18:35 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Established 1976 in Auburn, N.Y.)
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To: staytrue

The TRUE solution! Can someone send that suggestion to ppl who want to allow gay men to donate blood? Plus, probably posted, but NY Times reported gay men having unprotected sex 20% of the time. Plus, I just read a gay man say unprotected sex happens 75% of the time! but can’t find the link.


46 posted on 12/04/2013 2:21:45 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: staytrue

I don’t think most people have that problem.


47 posted on 12/04/2013 5:27:15 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: massmike
the FDA policy is “discriminatory...

Good

and inadequate.”

...then strengthen it.

48 posted on 12/04/2013 5:46:23 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ottbmare
There is absolutely no medical evidence that the human body is designed to lose blood or that this is good for us.

Dr Ronald Hoffman on WOR radio said that humans evolved over time to store iron because it was a competitive advantage to survival at a time when humans lost blood from parasites, cuts and injuries.

In modern days, people don't lose blood in daily life like in cave men days, and the iron can build up in the blood and the organs. Too much iron in the blood can cause harm especially to the liver. This is why it's a good idea for men and for post menopausal women to give blood regularly - to get rid of excess iron.

49 posted on 12/04/2013 5:50:56 AM PST by grasshopper2
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To: Understand the stimulus
funding for aids

Oh, you mean "those with pre-existing contidions" (ObamaCare)?

50 posted on 12/04/2013 5:53:35 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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