Skip to comments.Electric Car Owner Arrested For Stealing 5 Cents' Worth Of Power
Posted on 12/04/2013 8:19:49 PM PST by rktman
There's no such thing as a free lunch, or free electricity. That's the lesson Kaveh Kamooneh, the owner of a Nissan Leaf electric car, is learning after spending 15 hours in jail for plugging his car into a public school's outlet without asking.
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5 cents worth of power?
I think those chargers use a whole lot more than that.
Good. F****** freeloader....
Wow I wonder how many times I could have been thrown in jail for plugging in my notebook computer or other devices without asking...
Theft is theft. Look at what happened to that homeless lady who took less than three dollars worth of coins from a public fountain. Cops said the fountain belonged to the city.l
Looks like there may be lots of extra revenue at the airports with all those folks “stealing” power to charge their tablets, flaptops, cell phones, and myriad other gizmos.
With a name like Kaveh don’t you think he is entitled to free energy?
If some get a free phone then why not free energy for him?
these leftists feel entitled to OPM
Ooopppppsss. I musta forgot. Reparations. Where’s the “lyin’ king” to weigh in on this?
Except some of it is MFM.
See, when you are superior and saving the planet, a little stealing is allowed.
okay the school could have billed him, or the cops could’ve just said give us a nickel and don’t do it again.
back when people had common sense and could treat others the way they’d like to be treated.
Well, 1 horsepower is 3/4 kilowatts, so 20 horsepower is 15 kw. If electric power costs $0.10 per kwh, then $0.05 will buy you no more than enough energy to run a 20 hp motor for 2 minutes ... back of the imaginary envelope.
All in all, say a minute of highway drive time. What kind of charge time then? Something on the order of 1:1, so a minute or so. So maybe they catch the guy plugging in and make him stop, then screw him to the wall. I can picture it.
Hmmm, if I spend $80 for gas to make a 12 hour drive, what’s that? About $0.11 a minute. I guess that makes sense.
While the car owner should have asked for permission, the punishment does not fit the crime ... especially considering that the electricity is likely paid for by this person's property taxes.
Good point and who scrutinizes the teachers and principal and school nurse for personal use of the schools electricity? True, he should have asked first but ‘no first warning’? from those senseless cops. IMO, they should put them all on foot - they waste too much gas that they don’t pay for.
Thanks for the calculations.
Watts wrong with getting a small rebate on his property taxes?
Ohms law be damned!
The 15 hours in jail wasn’t for that, it was for being a sucker for buying a Leaf.
Total electricity storage of the Leaf is about 24kwh, so if he had charged it from empty to full he would have consumed about $2.40 of juice (at .10/kwh).
Actually somewhat more, probably slightly over $3, due to energy lost when battery charging.
My brain is too groggy to figure out how long this would take on a 115v outlet.
LOL! I thought that after I posted my comment and the article. And here I thought you didn’t get put in jail for being stupid.
GA ping list ping; this is from Chamblee. Laz, you don’t know any Chamblee cops do you? If so, see if you can get the inside scoop.
I saw a report on the local news on this last night, and there was a statement made that implied he had been told not to do this before. Of course, the local news didn’t run this down, didn’t flesh this out, so we don’t have the full story.
Clearly, if this was a first time thing, arresting the guy is completely absurd, and represents another example of the death of common sense. However, if he had previously been told not to do it, and he was doing it again, I don’t have a problem with it.
To those already on the thread thinking this guy is black based on his name, you’re wrong. He appeared more Middle Eastern.
Theft is theft and the ECO public had better recognize that their low-petrol, renewable energy vehicles STILL require resources that are not free.
Had I been the owner of a station, building, parking lot, etc., I, too, would have prosecuted the person. Thinking you can just steal power because it was “only a little” is BS.
And when the number of harmless 5 cent users grows to hundreds and thousands, hundreds of thousands, is that enough of a problem?
Thanks for your post. Not sure if I was unclear.
I am not supporting the car-owner.
I do think electric cars have a big place in America’s future, but at the same time, people have to pay for their own transportation.
Just like a driver wouldn’t pull someone else’s gas without paying for it, one shouldn’t sponge off electricity sources which are not for the public.
That is my point.
I think we agree at least in part.
Understood. I was just commenting that the potential number of 5 cent users will grow exponentially IF government gets its way and forces our national fleet to electric. They continually perpetuate the myth that these things don’t cost anything to run and do not use resources that are harmful to the environment.
Just like ethanol, the government should stay the hell out of it.
Yep, that is EXACTLY the mentality.
See, there’s nothing wrong with a very few entitled people flying around the country in jets, private or commercial,
as long as everyone isn’t doing it.
But electricity is FREE!.............................
So if someone plugs in their laptop or cell phone in a public place, they should be arrested?
This was over 4 cents worth of electricity, per a statement from Georgia Power.
While I agree people should not take plugging in as a “given”, it is a complete waste of societal resources to arrest this guy, if it was a first-time event. A warning would have been the smart, common-sense thing to do.
You should ping him.
We need to transistor to a green economy.
I know no Chamblee cops, besides, of course, the dozens of arrests. :)
If his laptop had run out of power and he plugged it in.... would they have arrested him for that? It galls me to defend a plug in car owner since they are the stupidest of people... but still.
LOL! Well, yeah, there is that.
I don’t have the capacitance! I’m just not wired that way.
In fact, it hertz to think about it and it’s a circuitous argument anyway.
Stay grounded FRiends!
In fact, I need to meditate: "Ohm....Ohm.....Ohm...."
I generally agree with you that if he’d been warned repeatedly then I have little sympathy. On the other hand it’s not like he was parking overnight three times a week to get the school district to subsidize his electric bill. Since the police showed up at his house days later it sounds personal. Maybe some mid level county flunkie with a personal agenda? Might be a FReeper who hates electric cars?
We wouldn’t want your meditation to insulate you from cross-over into true resonance, or generate reactance from loss at the bridge for even a little bit.
And please be careful that your reluctance to become integrated doesn’t turn your joints cold and prevent your inductance into the land of the board.
But watt the heck!
(I just can’t help it. More wine now...)
Your username would seem to indicate economist, but your posts in this thread say literate EE!
Busted. I’ve had many lives... ;)
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