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Francis gives other denominations a case of pope envy
The Boston Globe ^ | 12-5-13 | Alex Beam

Posted on 12/05/2013 10:50:02 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

Pope Francis (real name: Jorge Mario Bergoglio) has shaken up the Catholic church with some plain speaking about faith and about life in the 21st century. He has had an impact on other faiths, as well. Welcome to “pope envy.”

I first encountered the term in an essay by Jana Riess, a liberal Mormon writer. “I’ve delighted in seeing this beautiful revitalization of hope in the Catholic Church,” Riess wrote, “but I’ve also felt twinges of (an admittedly un-Christian) envy.”

Why wouldn’t a Mormon, or anyone for that matter, envy the un-self-conscious spiritual leadership of a prelate who warns nuns that there is more to the monastic life than just smiling for God, and who sneaks out of the Vatican, disguised as a parish priest, to minister to the homeless?

Furthermore, as Riess notes, Francis is very much out there in the real world. The Mormons’ “Prophet, Seer and Revelator,” 86-year-old Thomas Monson, chosen by seniority rather than by merit, “is unusual in his distance from the public, the media, and his own followers,” she writes. In Monson’s rare appearances, “almost nothing was unscripted. He does not do press conferences, and seldom fields unexpected questions.”

Comparisons are otiose, of course, but Pope Francis is anything but cloistered from the real world. At times, he seems to yak on about whatever comes to his mind, just as you and I do. He has said that he lives in a hotel rather than in the isolated papal apartments “for psychiatric reasons.”

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TOPICS: History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: anglican; atholic; catholic; lds; pope; popefrancis; popenausea

1 posted on 12/05/2013 10:50:02 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Boston Globe BS.

they just like socialism.


2 posted on 12/05/2013 10:51:09 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; narses; Salvation; NYer; marshmallow

There is an easy fix for those who are suffering from “Pope envy”. Something about the Rubicon...I took that step 55 years ago.


3 posted on 12/05/2013 10:53:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, if anybody wants him I have no objection to raffling him off. And then electing a new pope who isn’t a socialist humanist.


4 posted on 12/05/2013 10:56:46 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Me too. I have long been critical of your popes. This one is awesome.


5 posted on 12/05/2013 11:00:10 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Pope Francis is a good and kind man. I like him.


6 posted on 12/05/2013 11:00:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Good grief.


7 posted on 12/05/2013 11:02:39 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Pope Francis told me: ‘The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old.

Really?! The guy is an idiot! Another moron with no clue about economic reality.

8 posted on 12/05/2013 11:12:04 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

He’s a Pope, Jim, not an economist.


9 posted on 12/05/2013 11:22:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Best Pope in my 44 years as a Catholic. I don’t know the Pope when I was born, but I remember the Pope of 50 Days, JP II, B, and now Francis. I went to St. Francis Catholic grade school so this is even better. Great humble man. We should be more like him.


10 posted on 12/05/2013 11:28:58 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"has shaken up the Catholic church with some plain speaking about faith and about life in the 21st century"

I'm still not sure where I come down on this Pope but "plain speaking" is the farthest from how I would describe him. After reading is statments and interviews more often than not I come away unsure of just what his point was.

11 posted on 12/05/2013 11:33:04 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I have read his Evangelii Gaudium and I’m still not sure about his prognosis of our postmodern world. I believe he has diagnosed the major problem (lust for money) but may have misdiagnosed the causes. Anyone can surely see the lust for money in business, politics, sports, art, entertainment, etc. The rich have only gotten richer under Obama.


12 posted on 12/05/2013 11:48:43 AM PST by NotTallTex
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What’s to envy??

Anyone can get up and spout the socialist gospel. For that matter, anyone can spout Christ’s true gospel.

But the two things to be looked at in any such dissertation are 1, Is it true, and 2, does he really believe it.

I think the answer is positive on point 2, but the jury is out on point 1. I’d have to hear more from him to make sure that I am understanding him rightly.

But anyway, what’s to envy. I don’t want a pope; I don’t need a point. I can read the Bible, and pray, for myself.


13 posted on 12/05/2013 11:51:28 AM PST by chesley
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The term “self-congratulatory” comes to mind. Why do liberals always need some exalted figure to tell them what to think? Get a bible and read it for yourself.


14 posted on 12/05/2013 12:38:45 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

NO, he does not.

I need no other Priest than Jesus, Himself!~


15 posted on 12/05/2013 12:58:41 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: trisham

Then he needs to STFU about economic policies. And as popes go, he sucks. I especially loved that athiests can go to heaven if they are nice and basically good people. Forget about that whole pesky God and Jesus stuff, just be polite and its all good.


16 posted on 12/05/2013 12:59:04 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Catholic ping!


17 posted on 12/05/2013 1:43:11 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Come on in, folks. The water’s fine.

I like Pope Francis, but his predecessors, certainly the recent ones, were good men as well. I’ve found the Benedict-as-Rottweiler thing, in particular, to be greatly exaggerated.


18 posted on 12/07/2013 2:10:21 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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