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Durham Public Schools seeks input on reducing suspensions
News 14 Carolina ^ | December 7, 2013 | Chris Williams

Posted on 12/07/2013 2:51:19 PM PST by ladyjane

Durham Public Schools seeks input on reducing suspensions

DURHAM – Durham Public School leaders are seeking the community's input on how to reduce school suspensions, particularly among African-American students. The first of three public forums was held Saturday on Hillandale Road. Community leaders and parents showed up to the event.

Last school year, the district issued close to 6,000 suspensions. Nearly 80% of them went to African-American students. Officials admit they can be a little too eager to hand out the punishment.

"I think we have to do a better job of understanding what the current policy is," Superintendent Eric Becoats said.

Attendees were broken up into teams to figure out what does work, what the problems are and how to fix them.

"We will be sharing this with the Board of Education, and working with the board and our school leaders to determine our next step," Assistant Superintendent Debbie Pitman said.


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1 posted on 12/07/2013 2:51:19 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Easy.

Weed out the bad apples — and expel them at the start of the school year.


2 posted on 12/07/2013 2:54:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ladyjane

Get rid of PC principals and teachers.


3 posted on 12/07/2013 2:54:28 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ladyjane

I will tell you what happens next. Quotas are setup so the the numbers look right. Minority kids get a pass, and the rest are punished for the smallest infraction. Ethnicity becomes the trump card over behavior.


4 posted on 12/07/2013 2:55:46 PM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: ladyjane
Attendees were broken up into teams to figure out what does work, what the problems are and how to fix them

This, incidentally sounds like that sneaky technique used by statists to create the illusion of consensus for their pre-decided course of action.

I'm guessing anyone with my suggestion would be quickly isolated and ignored by the "moderators."

5 posted on 12/07/2013 2:56:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ladyjane

This could be solved easily.

If the parents would get married before having kids, stay married, and spend time with their kids, teach them values, and stay involved in their lives on a daily basis, including paying attention to who their friends are and helping select better friends, kids would be far less likely to get in trouble in the first place. If the parents of these students would ground kids who get in trouble at school and take away the kid’s Xbox, PSP, Nintendo, tablet, iPhone, laptop, and other electronic entertainments for misbehavior (or even better, never buy that junk), the kids would be more willing to obey rules and there would be fewer suspensions.

In other words, this problem will not be solved.


6 posted on 12/07/2013 2:58:04 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: ladyjane

The leftist answer is to make penalties harsher for whites than black students. This has actually been attempted in a couple of places, I remember one in New Mexico.

If a black kid knocks out a white kid, the black kid will get less punishment than the white kid.

Then there is a town in Alabama or Mississippi that lets black kids pass with lower grades than they do for whites.


7 posted on 12/07/2013 2:58:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ladyjane
seeking imput...(publicly)
CANING [Singaporean style] THE LITTLE B@$T@$D$
is a good start.

8 posted on 12/07/2013 3:03:51 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: ladyjane

Why not just reduce the number of suspendable offenses?


9 posted on 12/07/2013 3:04:47 PM PST by fso301
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To: Pollster1
Good points.

10 posted on 12/07/2013 3:05:16 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: fso301
Why not just reduce the number of suspend-able offenses?
and rob, the Statists' Warehouse keepers their State provided entertainment?...

11 posted on 12/07/2013 3:08:03 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: firebasecody

There is a group in North Carolina called CARE - Citizens Advocating Racial Equality.

http://subpub.chapelhillnews.com/2013/02/05/74895/forum-targets-school-suspension.html

I don’t know much about them but according to the article black students are ten times more likely to be suspended than white students.


12 posted on 12/07/2013 3:09:10 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: BenLurkin

Good idea.


13 posted on 12/07/2013 3:09:40 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: skinkinthegrass

Caning. A better idea. LOL


14 posted on 12/07/2013 3:10:33 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
scared CANED straight, justice prevails.
first offense...5 whacks
(age Dependant)
second offense...15 whacks
third offense...(very harsh) juvenile detention..or jail.
(no hometime)

15 posted on 12/07/2013 3:21:40 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: ladyjane
when good and evil compromise, evil ALWAYS wins...
16 posted on 12/07/2013 3:29:20 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ladyjane

Let me try and help.

Did you suspend any student for making a gun shape with their fingers and “firing” at their schoolmates? If so, don’t do that.

Did you suspend any student for drawing a picture of a gun? If so, don’t do that.

Did you suspend any student for writing an essay in which they praise Jesus Christ? If so, don’t do that.

Did you suspend any student who brought a somewhat sharp knife from home to cut up an apple for their lunch? If so, don’t do that.

Did you suspend any student for wearing a patriotic t-shirt, American flag pin, religious symbol, etc.? If so, don’t do that.

Did you suspend any student for passing out religious literature, forming a Bible club, reading the Bible, singing religious songs? If so, don’t do that.

There, I’ve tried to be of help to them.


17 posted on 12/07/2013 3:37:22 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I’m hoping the good folks over in Durham are taking note of all these excellent suggestions.


18 posted on 12/07/2013 3:43:52 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: jocon307

I’m hoping the good folks over in Durham are taking note of all these excellent suggestions.


19 posted on 12/07/2013 3:43:52 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

My teenaged son was suspended once for cutting class. He thought it was great and planned to keep cutting class and keep getting suspended. So, I went to the principal and told him that suspending my boy was no punishment, punishment was keeping him in school, and I offered to personally escort him to all of his classes, to which he agreed. My son was horrified when I showed up first period to make sure he went to second period. Several of his friends (and fellow truants) approached me to tell me what an awful mother I was and how I should not embarass my son like that, so I gave them my phone number and told them to have their parents call me and tell me not to do so. I got not one single phone call, I think those young people were afraid their parents might take up the practice. The principal told me he was going to adopt the practice for truants. That if the parents wanted to so do, they could escort their children to class if they were caught cutting class. The truancy rate went way down in that school, no kid wanted to take the chance that his mother would show up to make sure he went to class.


20 posted on 12/07/2013 3:50:39 PM PST by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: ladyjane

Isn’t Durham where Crystal Mangum came from?


21 posted on 12/07/2013 3:53:30 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, exactly. I forget, what is the name for the method?


22 posted on 12/07/2013 3:55:13 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: erkelly

Ha ha—that’s great!


23 posted on 12/07/2013 3:56:05 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: BenLurkin

I think I just remembered: Delphi.


24 posted on 12/07/2013 3:56:51 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Delphi


25 posted on 12/07/2013 3:59:19 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the confirmation—as you can see above, it just came back to me.


26 posted on 12/07/2013 3:59:58 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
-- as you can see above, it just came back to me. --

Heheheh. My brain was digging deep too. "Monte Carlo" (nope, that's a probability thing) .... phzzzt, pssss, buzzzzz .... "Delphi" (aha! Type answer!) ... smoke from thinking deep clears ...

The Delphi Technique ... it works.

27 posted on 12/07/2013 4:04:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: erkelly

LOL


28 posted on 12/07/2013 4:09:46 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Catmom

Yes, Crystal Mangum came From Durham. Nifong too. It’s a sad place.

BTW Crystal finally got sent away for murdering her boyfriend. It’s too bad the AG refused to prosecute her for her false accusations. It might have saved his life. It might have helped her children too.


29 posted on 12/07/2013 7:10:53 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

bad enough we have to dumb down education to the lowest level, now we are dumbing down suspensions.


30 posted on 12/07/2013 7:58:32 PM PST by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: BenLurkin

Durham should look at what is happening in the Hartford PS right now.....same issues. A charter school has been lambasted for too many suspensions and keeping strictly to the rules. The schools’ test scores have risen remarkably....no one seems to notice a correlation in that fact.

Schools could turn things around overnight, if they state the rules clearly, give ample time for everyone to know them [parents included] and any time a kid breaks the rule.....parent *must* come to class and sit with their kid to *babysit* him/her. If parent loses work often enough....child will learn very quickly.


31 posted on 12/07/2013 8:20:23 PM PST by Daffynition (Make Laura Bush's *Cowboy Cookies* for Christmas! They're GREAT!)
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To: Daffynition
it's simple math..
Time = $$$$/job = discipline = sanity.
Problem solved. you're welcome.

32 posted on 12/08/2013 1:59:53 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: skinkinthegrass
It is simple. ;D


33 posted on 12/08/2013 4:15:27 AM PST by Daffynition (Make Laura Bush's *Cowboy Cookies* for Christmas! They're GREAT!)
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To: ladyjane

Statistics don’t tell you all you need to know. It is all about behavior. I know more than a handful of educators who left the public school systems in Maryland because of race based reporting and punishment. The majority students end up being over-reported and punished to get the numbers to ‘look right’.


34 posted on 12/08/2013 1:33:08 PM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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