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New dad lured into fatal robbery after arranging to meet men to buy iPad listed on Craigslist
Daily Mail On LIne ^ | 12/8/13 | unknown

Posted on 12/08/2013 11:36:36 AM PST by armydawg505

An Iraq veteran who thought he was buying an iPad as a Christmas present after responding to a Craigslist posting, has been shot dead in an Indianapolis parking lot by the fake sellers. New-dad Jim Vester, 32, was lured to an address on Wednesday in the west side of the city and brothers Tyron Kincade, 19, and Tyshaune Kincade, 18, have been arrested after Vester was shot dead leaving behind his one-year-old son, Gavin and wife, Jamie. In the wake of the senseless murder, nearly 1,500 people have donated $58,000 to a YouCaring.com fundraiser set up by Vester's family for the man described as a 'great cook, loving father and faithful man.' 'He would drop everything and cross town to help you and your family,' friend Master Sgt. Jerry Wurm said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: craigslist; moreofthesame; oifveterans; shooting; tryon; tryonkincade; tyron; tyshaune; tyshaunekincade
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Brothers Tyron Kincade, 19, and Tyshaune Kincade arrested. Nothing else needs to be said. More stateside news from the British press.
1 posted on 12/08/2013 11:36:37 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

The names told me all I needed to know.


2 posted on 12/08/2013 11:39:10 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: armydawg505

Bass turds. I won’t go no where near “Craigslist”. Too many people who go there end up dead.


3 posted on 12/08/2013 11:39:26 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you think signing up for ObamaCare was fun, wait until you try to use it.)
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To: armydawg505

What a waste of lives.


4 posted on 12/08/2013 11:40:33 AM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: armydawg505; Antihero101607

Some years back on a hobby/interest board, a “youth” (new member, never heard of him before) posted a message expressing interest in purchasing memorabilia and asking the respondent to meet him at a certain place and time. I was suspicious of this “youth” and hope that the person being addressed ignored the invitation.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 11:43:01 AM PST by thecodont
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To: armydawg505

It’s getting so you can’t trust black people


6 posted on 12/08/2013 11:43:30 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: armydawg505

Bullets to the head is much cheaper than years and years of supporting these scum with tax payers money.


7 posted on 12/08/2013 11:43:55 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: armydawg505
I see that those wacky Amish yutes are turning their life around again, college bound and all.
8 posted on 12/08/2013 11:45:32 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: armydawg505

Why is the fact that he’s a veteran relevant to the story?


9 posted on 12/08/2013 11:45:39 AM PST by DManA
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To: armydawg505

I believe Je$$e Jack$on said there are too many black men in prison. What does he propose we do with these types when they commit these types of crimes?


10 posted on 12/08/2013 11:45:57 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: armydawg505
Tyron Kincade, 19, and Tyshaune Kincade, 18

Let me guess . . . hmmmmm . . . gotta' be a koinki-dink, huh?

When you shake the cubes in BOGGLE, you get a name like Tyshaune

Any evidence of a hate crime? Huh?

11 posted on 12/08/2013 11:46:47 AM PST by laweeks
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To: armydawg505
Never agree to meet anywhere except in a McDonalds or some other public place. Parking lots are OUT! And watch out when you leave.
12 posted on 12/08/2013 11:47:46 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: armydawg505

These DailyMail has offices in this country along with its questionable journalistic practices ; but the stories ARE normally also in US papers.


13 posted on 12/08/2013 11:49:18 AM PST by erlayman
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To: armydawg505
The victim:


14 posted on 12/08/2013 11:51:26 AM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: armydawg505

Have Jesse and Al gotten to Indy yet, or is the storm delaying them?


15 posted on 12/08/2013 11:52:22 AM PST by sphinx
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To: armydawg505

Rip.

Moral of the story never meet anyone on Craigslist in the projects.

If you do chose to meet someone from Craigslist, meet them in an open public place like the food court at the mall in an affluent area.

Oh, bring your CCW just in case.


16 posted on 12/08/2013 11:52:35 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: yldstrk
It’s getting so you can’t trust black people


White Girl Bleed a Lot

Click here

17 posted on 12/08/2013 11:53:48 AM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: armydawg505

Per local media, the victim was carrying.
Surprised a military guy got ambushed.
FWIW the area this took place is not the hood, more like the border zone.


18 posted on 12/08/2013 11:53:57 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: DManA
Why is the fact that he’s a veteran relevant to the story?

In this case, I think it is only so author can milk the story for all the pathos possible. It sells more copies than "regular guy gets shot". Plus the irony - go to combat and survive, try to buy something off of Craig's list from a couple of thugs and die.
19 posted on 12/08/2013 11:53:58 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: laweeks
Any evidence of a hate crime? Huh?


White Girl Bleed a Lot

Click here

20 posted on 12/08/2013 11:55:39 AM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: Antihero101607

I’ll second that.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 11:56:16 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: 3Fingas

This wasn’t the projects, it was in Wayne Twp on the west side, west of Speedway. Kind of a mixed area nationality wise, old white folks, some blacks and hispanics, some younger white people.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 11:56:27 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: laweeks

Just follow them home and see what you have.

Such a senseless act. Prayers offered for the family.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 11:56:57 AM PST by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’ve bought and sold tons of stuff on Craigslist, with nary a problem. Millions of items are sold there everyday. Just use common sense, and I doubt there’s any higher incidents of crime than anywhere else.


24 posted on 12/08/2013 11:58:51 AM PST by Hugin ( More firepower!)
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To: DManA
Why is the fact that he’s a veteran relevant to the story?

That he was a veteran is relevant because it suggests that a life of evident value and valor was ended, by a pair of worthless scum, for no damn good reason.

25 posted on 12/08/2013 12:00:50 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: armydawg505

They should never again walk as free men. This was premeditated, and the full weight of the military should be brought upon them.


26 posted on 12/08/2013 12:00:50 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: DManA

>>Why is the fact that he’s a veteran relevant to the story?

Because, in today’s media, that’s the only way they value a white man’s life. If he wasn’t a veteran, then young Tyrone and Tashaunne (or whatever his stupid pseudo-african name is) would be getting the “they was choir boys who loved their mother” treatment.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 12:01:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Antihero101607
The names told me all I needed to know.

Wait til' you see their Facebook pages:

Tyshaune Kincade

Tyron Kincade

Such bright futures, these two young scholars...

28 posted on 12/08/2013 12:02:23 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Hugin

CR is no different than newspaper classifieds (almost vanished now) or eBay.

Craig Newmark gets trashed on FR because he supports lib politicians. Which is true, but by FR standards you can find a reason to boycott nearly any commercial venture or internet portal.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 12:03:33 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

Thanks for the clarification.

The story states that the victim thought of it as “not the best of areas”. In any event, I think the advice to meet in a neutral, public place is the best precaution.


30 posted on 12/08/2013 12:04:56 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; armydawg505
I won’t go no where near “Craigslist”. Too many people who go there end up dead.

Bull cheet...

Craigslist is probably the best buy and sell site there is.

I've made dozens of seamless transactions on Craigslist.

If you are that afraid, ya better lock the door to your bedroom and stay there.

31 posted on 12/08/2013 12:05:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Bass turds. I won’t go no where near “Craigslist”. Too many people who go there end up dead.

Got any stats? I've bought and sold on CL without any problems at all.

32 posted on 12/08/2013 12:06:03 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: yldstrk

I wouldn’t trust anyone I didn’t know. Especially anyone named Tyshaune.

God has a special treat for these murderous viruses, I think.


33 posted on 12/08/2013 12:06:20 PM PST by onedoug
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To: 3Fingas

I’d love to know the full scoop. This guy was a war vet and was carrying a gun per local news.
Must have been an ambush he failed to detect.


34 posted on 12/08/2013 12:07:20 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: armydawg505

I went to high school with Jim, and my grandmother works with his mom at the hospital. It still saddens me every time I think about it and I didn’t even know him that well. But he was a good guy, and a new Christian last I saw him some 8ish years ago.

Incidentally, this did show up in local newspapers and tv broadcasts. Not sure what I think of the fact that a paper across the pond picked this up.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 12:07:34 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: Drew68

Flashing gang signs.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 12:07:39 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: armydawg505
Tyshaune and Tyron Kincade. America's future...


37 posted on 12/08/2013 12:15:29 PM PST by Drew68
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To: armydawg505

A more local paper gives a lot more detail ...

Lizton Guardsman slain buying iPad, police say
http://archive.indystar.com/article/20131206/NEWS02/312060010/Police-arrest-two-suspects-after-fatal-shooting-near-Ben-Davis-HS


38 posted on 12/08/2013 12:16:42 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: JoeFromSidney

“Never agree to meet anywhere except in a McDonalds or some other public place.”

Yes, the more crowded the better.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 12:23:38 PM PST by jocon307
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To: armydawg505
Apple does NOT discount their products. Whether you purchase it through the Apple Store, the internet or at a Best Buy, the price is always the same.

If you see an advertisement on Ebay, Craigslist, or wherever for an Apple product at a bargain price, something is not right. The merchandise is most likely stolen, damaged in some way or fake.

Repeat: Apple does NOT discount their products. You want a 32GB Wi-Fi Ipad Air with Retina display? It's going to cost you $599 at every legitimate venue. Get used to it.

I hate that this guy got killed looking for a bargain on an iPad. May the killers be convicted and tortured for the rest of their lives. But damn, this guy should have just bought a Kindle Fire or something if he couldn't afford to buy the iPad at list price.

I say once again. Apple does NOT discount their pricing. What you see online is what you should expect to pay. If you see a price that is lower and need to drive to some sketchy neighborhood to close the deal, something is WRONG.

40 posted on 12/08/2013 12:28:54 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: raybbr
Got any stats? I've bought and sold on CL without any problems at all.

As have I. The media love these CL murder stories because they loath Craig's List and the damage it's done to want-ad revenues.

Like anything else in life, situational awareness is called for. If the ad sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If the buyer or seller on the other end of the phone is speaking in an incomprehensible ebonics babble (as these two geniuses surely were), red lights should start flashing. If your GPS is taking you to the ghetto, red lights should start flashing.

I'm guessing there were many voices in the back of Vester's head telling him something didn't seem right and he chose to ignore them.

41 posted on 12/08/2013 12:34:40 PM PST by Drew68
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Craigslist = hunting over bait......

Sad story, prayers for this guys family and friends.


42 posted on 12/08/2013 12:39:15 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: armydawg505

Round up everyone in their family, from third cousins and in-laws down.
Then, employ the practice of decimation. That will make families think hard about keeping their relatives in line.


43 posted on 12/08/2013 12:40:15 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: armydawg505

African names=ghetto vermin trash.


44 posted on 12/08/2013 12:41:50 PM PST by Signalman
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To: onedoug

I don’t even like having certain people working around my house because if they hate me because I am white they could hurt my house or me


45 posted on 12/08/2013 12:43:41 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: armydawg505

Meanwhile, the violent crime rate in England (source of the daily U.S. crime news) is higher per capita than in the U.S.A., and the U.K. continues to be rapidly saturated with violent rapists and murderers from the Middle East.


46 posted on 12/08/2013 12:56:36 PM PST by familyop
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To: armydawg505

I am not sure what the guy thought he was getting, but I wonder how he could conclude that a couple of black youths were going to sell him an iPad that was anything but stolen. He had to suspect that it was. Unless he was going to steal it from them and return it to the rightful owner, he had no business trying to buy it. Receiving stolen property is a felony.

An interesting aside: I know a woman who was buying what she thought was a MacBook Air. She looked at it, it was in a Best Buy box, wrapped in bubble wrap, had the Apple logo on it. The guy, who coincidentally was black, wanted only two hundred dollars for it. She gave him the money, and after he gave her the box, she found out that it was two ceramic floor tiles taped together with electrical tape, and a convincing-looking Apple sticker. It was a mite awkward to ask her what the perp looked like, because she was black herself.


47 posted on 12/08/2013 12:57:34 PM PST by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: Drew68

I looked at their fb pix.

Bunch of punk gangsters.

They posted pix of themselves and their friends throwing gang signs and flipping the bird.

Re: the Craigslist sale

They premeditated the crime, then added murder to the initial robbery.

Try em and fry em or give em the needle.


48 posted on 12/08/2013 1:02:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: armydawg505

There is no such thing as senseless violence. There is always a motive.


49 posted on 12/08/2013 1:05:37 PM PST by The Toll
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