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The Latest: California is first state to ban lead ammunition to protect condors
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Posted on 12/10/2013 12:06:47 PM PST by RC one

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To: RC one

My cousin was born in San Diego, has lived there all his life (60 years+) and loves to hunt and shoot. He’s had enough and is moving out.


21 posted on 12/10/2013 12:25:30 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: az_gila

Well, I always wondered what they would do if they caught some endangered species chowing down on an endangered plant...


22 posted on 12/10/2013 12:30:33 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DBrow

I don’t see a there being much chance of a condor eating lead fragments from a high powered rifle left in a large animal. Frangible ammo used for varmints is another matter as is lead shot in wounded foul/small game. I am pro-second amendment and I’m pro-wildlife conservation and preservation. I posted this article to illustrate the hypocrisy of Barack Obama and the leftists in general. Dead eagles truly piss me off as do hypocrites and liars. Thye number of birds being killed by wind mills numbers in the millions. This is not green by any definition. It’s hypocrisy. It’s political favoritism. It’s sickening and criminal as far as I’m concerned. Furthermore, can you imagine if Bush gave energy companies a pass to kill eagles and condors?


23 posted on 12/10/2013 12:32:49 PM PST by RC one
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To: Dr. Sivana

lol here in Michigan also, but we do have the return of the bald eagle. My daughter got a picture of one sitting in a tree at the end of her road. (rural). But Obama has given the wind power wind mills the exemption from killing eagles/hawks and I would suppose the condors. It seems that wenn someone goes to washington, their brain cells keep falling out of the back of their heads


24 posted on 12/10/2013 12:33:15 PM PST by goat granny
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To: RC one
They need to go back to wanton shooting and egg collecting.
No condors no excuses.
25 posted on 12/10/2013 12:34:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

California condors?

What ever happened to “for the children?”

Condors are vastly more important; unfortunately, eagles don’t make the list.


26 posted on 12/10/2013 12:42:17 PM PST by DPMD
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To: SampleMan
If you do find it, don't shoot it through a gun, as the barrels aren't hard enough steel for copper.

Seems to me most 22LR is copper jacketed. And are you saying that 22s use softer steel than other guns? I've never heard that. Not that it has anything to do with my original post.

My guess is that all the big manufacturers will start putting out non lead rounds in most cartridges including 22LR.

27 posted on 12/10/2013 12:46:07 PM PST by Hugin
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To: RC one

Condors, a big, ugly, carrion-eater.

People are more important than animals.

KYPD


28 posted on 12/10/2013 12:46:15 PM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: Hugin

copper washed, not jacketed.


29 posted on 12/10/2013 12:47:33 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Starboard

Who is “the criminal element?”


30 posted on 12/10/2013 12:47:55 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Works for me.


31 posted on 12/10/2013 12:48:43 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: Hugin

Gun barrels come in all kinds of different hardnesses, as does lead and jacketing material.

Take a standard “copper jacketed” .22 bullet and cut it in two with a pocket knife. You won’t find it to be very difficult to do. Next, try doing the same with a metal jacketed .223. You’ll find its hard to do.

High pressure bullets need to be hard, so that they won’t blow out, low pressure bullets need to be soft, so they will seal.


32 posted on 12/10/2013 12:50:41 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: RedMDer

While the RATS would love to disarm citizens, this bill doesn’t do it. You can still buy lead ammo. You can still shoot lead ammo. You just can’t hunt with lead ammo.


33 posted on 12/10/2013 12:51:08 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin

“...My guess is that all the big manufacturers will start putting out non lead rounds in most cartridges including 22LR.”

There goes the bore. Zinc, compressed/sintered iron or copper are not stable in the earth and contaminate ground water much more readily than does lead ammunition. Metals reclamation from range berms is required more often and is much more expensive than running and replacing berms through a lead wash.

It is known to the rest of the country that the residing governance of Kalifornia is peopled by loons and is hazardous to one’s wellbeing.

KYPD


34 posted on 12/10/2013 12:51:22 PM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: RC one

Will this cause a drop in ammo prices?


35 posted on 12/10/2013 12:52:51 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SampleMan

OK, I get that. But why make a 22 barrel softer? I’m not being argumentative here, I just don’t see any reason to do so, except maybe cost.


36 posted on 12/10/2013 12:56:02 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin

Yep, cost.


37 posted on 12/10/2013 12:57:40 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Hugin

That was a step toward eliminating it.


38 posted on 12/10/2013 1:03:27 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Misterioso

Thugs, thieves and robbers. People who ignore laws.


39 posted on 12/10/2013 1:04:52 PM PST by Starboard
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To: petro45acp
Condors, a big, ugly, carrion-eater. People are more important than animals.

there are plenty of people that I would stand back and allow to be eaten by condors without so much as a thought of intervention. and I mean plenty of them.

40 posted on 12/10/2013 1:07:27 PM PST by RC one
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