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Have We Found the Lost Colony of Roanoke Island?
National Geographic ^ | 06 Dec 2013 | Tanya Basu

Posted on 12/10/2013 4:32:10 PM PST by Theoria

Remote-sensing techniques have unearthed clues to the fate of settlers who mysteriously disappeared.

It's a mystery that has intrigued Americans for centuries: What happened to the lost colonists of North Carolina's Roanoke Island? (See "America's Lost Colony.")

The settlers, who arrived in 1587, disappeared in 1590, leaving behind only two clues: the words "Croatoan" carved into a fort's gatepost and "Cro" etched into a tree.

Theories about the disappearance have ranged from an annihilating disease to a violent rampage by local Native American tribes. Previous digs have turned up some information and artifacts from the original colonists but very little about what happened to them.

Until now.

Thanks to technological advances and a cover-up on a map, researchers are getting closer to finding out what happened to the lost colony of Roanoke Island.

What Do We Know?

The lost colonists were the third group of English arrivals on North Carolina’s Roanoke Island, settling near the modern-day town of Manteo.

The first group to arrive, in 1584, came to explore and map the land for future groups. A second group, which arrived in 1585, was charged with a military and scientific mission. But this second group's trip was far from peaceful.

"That's where tensions begin [with the local Native American tribes]," said Clay Swindell of the Museum of the Albemarle in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, a member of the archaeology team investigating the colony. He says that this second group was driven out in 1586 by local tribes angry that the colonists were taking up good land and resources.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: croatoan; godsgravesglyphs; lostcolony; northcarolina; roanoke; roanokecolony; virginiadare
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1 posted on 12/10/2013 4:32:10 PM PST by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

ping.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 4:32:30 PM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: Theoria

The answer is: No.


3 posted on 12/10/2013 4:39:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Theoria
It's a mystery that has intrigued Americans for centuries:

Truth be known, the only thing that has intrigued me is that refrigerator light that always seems to be on when I open the door......

...and those darn socks which disappear from my dryer.

4 posted on 12/10/2013 4:49:05 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"...and those darn socks which disappear from my dryer."

You, too?

5 posted on 12/10/2013 4:51:53 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Theoria

Very interesting. I wonder what the signs were for if indeed they did settle to the west. Start digging. :)


6 posted on 12/10/2013 4:54:38 PM PST by erlayman
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To: Theoria

If they were absorbed by local tribes, wouldn’t DNA testing give a clue?

I seem to remember that years ago some stones were found that indicated the colony was captured or sided with a tribe that headed north, but that the Establishment said they were forgeries and relegated them to the basement.


7 posted on 12/10/2013 4:54:53 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I want to know why you can’t tickle yourself. Or why you don’t sneeze in your sleep.


8 posted on 12/10/2013 4:58:27 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Theoria
CRO

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9 posted on 12/10/2013 5:00:51 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Theoria

The mystery was solved on a Lovejoy Mysteries 2 hour episode years ago ...


10 posted on 12/10/2013 5:09:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Oatka

I seem to remember hearing awhile ago that generations after they disappeared, a native tribe from that area had many members with blue eyes and various traits that would indicate a bi~racial heritage.


11 posted on 12/10/2013 5:14:16 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: Theoria

I suspect they did what the Vikings did in Greenland when the settlement became untenable. They joined the Indians/Eskimos.
A Later settlers met Indians with names that were highly echoic of certain names of the colonists. Dare is a long time traditional family names among the Indians thereabouts, among others. Actually Indians didn’t have family names prior to Roanoke.


12 posted on 12/10/2013 5:16:38 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

I was just looking for a place to crash.....


13 posted on 12/10/2013 5:22:25 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Theoria

I always thought that the message Croatoan was an incomplete grocery list and the person just didn’t know how to spell Croutons.


14 posted on 12/10/2013 5:26:21 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"Truth be known, the only thing that has intrigued me is that refrigerator light that always seems to be on when I open the door......",

When I was four my father told me it was "Joe Shlook the midget" who turned the light on. Both parents told me years later that I then drove both of them crazy repeatedly opening the door quickly to try to get a glimpse of ol'Joe. Thank you for the memory.

15 posted on 12/10/2013 5:27:56 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: Theoria

There were groups here with European features and coloration to an extent, and some reportedly even had rudimentary understanding of English, when the earliest acknowledged English exploration and settlement occurred. Most notably the Lumbee tribe claim descent from the “lost” colony on Roanoke Island, but other old triracial isolate groups have as well, on up into the Blue Ridge. The history of this continent is more complicated than generally acknowledged, as far as migration, settlement and eventual intermarriage between Europeans and so-called native tribes. It was going on before John White ever sketched a map of the NC barrier islands, before Juan Pardo ever built a short-lived garrison, before Hernando de Soto ever wandered about looking for gold. Ocean currents were and are conducive, throw a message in a bottle into the ocean at Hatteras Island and it turns up in County Cork.


16 posted on 12/10/2013 5:38:42 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: CatherineofAragon; Hot Tabasco

check the dark side of the moon

i wonder why there seems to be no anecdotals for this apparent dispersal and relocation


17 posted on 12/10/2013 5:38:56 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
I want to know why you can’t tickle yourself.

You saying YOU can't? You don't know the fun you're missing..........

18 posted on 12/10/2013 5:40:09 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: VR-21
it was "Joe Shlook the midget" who turned the light on.

Joe died shortly after the invention of the microwave........yep, you guessed it.

19 posted on 12/10/2013 5:43:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I've solved the socks thing. My dryer runs on socks. The electricity is only for the little light.
20 posted on 12/10/2013 5:52:52 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Theoria

So they’re going to take an inaccurate English map of the period and “0verlay” a modern map? LOL. Good luck with that! I rather doubt that the explorers were doing an accurate survey of the coastline.

And using ground penetrating radar on a single Indian village? What if they they “get lucky” and find a period metal button? What does THAT prove? There could be a dozen explanations for how it had gotten there that don’t involve the presence of any members of the lost colony.


21 posted on 12/10/2013 5:53:02 PM PST by Tallguy (between taglines...)
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To: Theoria

I think they did make for Croatan island and sadly never arrived. My guess — a sudden storm came up and they went down with all hands.


22 posted on 12/10/2013 5:54:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Turn your clothes inside out before you wash them and right side out after they dry.

Then the missing socks show up.


23 posted on 12/10/2013 5:56:02 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

The sounds are fairly shallow and much warmer than the Atlantic. That doesn’t mean you can’t get in trouble out there because you can, but it’s a lot more forgiving than, say, Diamond Shoals. Not a good place to be in a thunderstorm. Major hurricanes have been known to empty shallower sections only to inundate them when the wind shifts. But, they were seafaring people who had crossed the North Atlantic. I suspect something else, genetic swamping. They lost hope in a ship returning and threw their lot in with the locals, and migrated inland.


24 posted on 12/10/2013 6:02:19 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Very valid questions, please ping me when you find out heh.


25 posted on 12/10/2013 6:05:47 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Theoria; zot; SunkenCiv; erlayman; chae; RegulatorCountry

See also this article in the Science Section of the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2520795/What-happened-lost-colony-Roanoke-Island-Remote-sensing-unearths-clues-400-year-old-American-mystery.html


26 posted on 12/10/2013 6:13:48 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: chae

>> I seem to remember hearing awhile ago that generations after they disappeared, a native tribe from that area had many members with blue eyes and various traits that would indicate a bi~racial heritage. <<

That would be the Lumbee people of Robeson County NC. Visit those folks today, and you’ll see many who look like pure Caucasians, many who look like they’re about 1/8 African, and a few who look so Amerindian that you could think they just crossed the Bering Strait from Siberia.

Moreover, their Southern accents are as deep as you’ll find anywhere, and their cookin’ is pure “South country style” — something you can sample at Fuller’s Buffet just off I-95 (Exit 20) in Lumberton NC.


27 posted on 12/10/2013 6:17:50 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Theoria

They went to Florida for the winter.


28 posted on 12/10/2013 6:30:30 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think that electrical forces generated in the rotating dryer produces a portal to another area of the universe, a worm hole if you will.
The occupants of sector 5 in quadrant 205 alternate universe wonder why none of that socks that randomly appear ever match. Since they move on slime trails they aren’t all that curious!


29 posted on 12/10/2013 6:37:21 PM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Hawthorn

Lumbees of today are an alphabet soup of races. The swamps and lowlands of SE NC were one of the last areas of the colonial east coast to be settled and became a haven for runaway slaves, indentured servants and criminals.

The Natives in the region during later colonial days were an amalgamated tribe, the remnants of several other small tribes from across the state that melded together in the early decades of the 1700’s as smallpox decimated and erased their prior local existence.

The Lumbee have native genetics with a seasoning of European and African flavors. There’s no way to tell how old the European strain is.


30 posted on 12/10/2013 6:39:31 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Hawthorn

If I’m not mistaken some of the English surnames common among the Lumbee would appear to indicate a tie to the colonists.


31 posted on 12/10/2013 6:48:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Hawthorn

http://www.lost-colony.com/magazineNP.html


32 posted on 12/10/2013 6:58:04 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Theoria

The Readers’ Digest version is they still don’t know what happened to the colony.

The Indians probably had them over for dinner.


33 posted on 12/10/2013 7:03:05 PM PST by bgill
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To: Theoria; GreyFriar; Pharmboy; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; ...

Thanks Theoria and GreyFriar. At least some of them apparently tried to reach European colonies in Florida; years ago someone stumbled across another apparent inscription in Georgia somewhere (or maybe it was in one of the Carolinas).

34 posted on 12/10/2013 7:35:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping and the link. It will be interesting to see if they actually find any proof at the spot marked on the map.


35 posted on 12/10/2013 7:39:31 PM PST by zot
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To: RegulatorCountry

Most notably the Lumbee tribe claim descent from the “lost” colony on Roanoke Island, but other old triracial isolate groups have as well, on up into the Blue Ridge.
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The tri-racials are commonly referred to as Melungeons. They are descendants of a mix of Anglo, Amerind and Negro. They spread over the years to various areas of the South and Mid-South. In LA, I believe they were referred to as Brass Ankles. ....There are many mentions of the Lumbees in writings about the Melungeons.


36 posted on 12/10/2013 7:44:27 PM PST by octex
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To: Theoria; SunkenCiv; indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; ...
Thanks Theoria and SunkenCiv. Always a fascinating subject.

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

37 posted on 12/10/2013 8:02:11 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; shibumi

[if you're not watching this show, you're missing out on a lot of great comedy]

38 posted on 12/10/2013 8:39:59 PM PST by Salamander (I know things that you don't. I've done things that you won't.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

LOLOL


39 posted on 12/10/2013 8:40:54 PM PST by Salamander (I know things that you don't. I've done things that you won't.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

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40 posted on 12/10/2013 8:42:18 PM PST by Salamander (I know things that you don't. I've done things that you won't.)
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To: Hawthorn

My niece by marriage is a Lumbee. At the wedding, her side of the family ranged in shade from light to dark, with varied hair as well. Her mother spoke in the slowest drawl I have ever heard.


41 posted on 12/10/2013 8:55:42 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; CatherineofAragon; Salamander
"Truth be known, the only thing that has intrigued me is that refrigerator light that always seems to be on when I open the door......"

Ancient Astronaut theorists agree that there is a little man who lives in the fridge. His job is to turn the light on and off.

Like Santa, he sees you when you're sleeping and he knows when you're awake.

When he knows that you're sleeping, he sneaks out of the fridge and goes to the laundry room to steal socks. He's so small that he uses the socks to keep warm while he's in the fridge. (It gets *cold* in there!)

He originally comes from Alpha Centauri and he looks just like Giorgio Tsoukalos,but really, really tiny -


42 posted on 12/10/2013 10:07:21 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

So, those must be your socks which mysteriously teleport into my dryer.


43 posted on 12/11/2013 3:01:05 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping. Fascinating stuff.


44 posted on 12/11/2013 6:23:00 AM PST by Bigg Red (He gives power to the faint, and to him who has no might he increases strength.--Is 40)
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To: Theoria

I had to join the Nat Geo Society and suffer through their ads to read this article. What do I learn for my trouble? “We’ll have to go dig some holes!” This article is conjecture and scam.


45 posted on 12/11/2013 6:35:33 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: CatherineofAragon

Mine have their own bag they get tossed in when their mate goes wandering off. Sort of like divorced socks h3ll.


46 posted on 12/11/2013 8:03:03 AM PST by madison10
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To: carcraft

THAT IS IT! You’ve solved it!


47 posted on 12/11/2013 8:34:56 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Rebelbase

Ping!


48 posted on 12/11/2013 8:35:46 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Salamander

Never watched....gotta check it out now.

Love the hair...very “Johnny the Human Torch.”


49 posted on 12/11/2013 8:35:57 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: shibumi

The little #!@#$! belongs to me if I come across him, and no alien in the universe will save him.


50 posted on 12/11/2013 8:37:47 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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