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America’s Education System Isn’t Broken: White & Asian American Test Scores Top Most Countries
FrontPage Mag ^ | 12/12/2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 12/12/2013 9:07:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Madam Theophilus

Pardon me madam.. l didn’t say they couldn’t. Take your pick tennis shoes or books... but don’t take your old hack to the Derby. It is not just the placement that we don’t choose but also the breaks we may get, (what we bring to the table) and ...
how hard we hit it?.
Kindest regards as always.


21 posted on 12/12/2013 10:24:49 AM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good article. Bottom line, families that invest time and energy into their kids get better results. preparing kids to learn, behave and have respect will greatly improve their ability to learn....as long as other kids parents do the same.


22 posted on 12/12/2013 10:40:13 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Farnsworth

The K-12 system is very biased with leftwing propaganda even if its not “broken”


23 posted on 12/12/2013 10:41:47 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

These statistics probably are similar when it comes to crime in the US. Take out the black and Hispanic crimes and we are one of the safest countries in the world


24 posted on 12/12/2013 10:49:56 AM PST by capt B
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be interested to see these numbers adjusted for household income.


25 posted on 12/12/2013 11:00:14 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Certain cultures are doing better than others in school probably because some cultures promote structured family units which teach children the value of wise time investment.

Otherwise, one problem with America’s schools is that, for many decades, many working parents have been using public schools as a babysitter, such parents basically not having the energy at the end of a day to ask their children how they were indoctrinated in entitlement socialism at school that day.

Also, instead of promoting the cliche, “reading, writing and arithmetic,” schools should be teaching reading, writing, arithmetic and federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.

In fact, military training issues aside, as a consequence of teachers likely not knowing what Congress’s constitutionally limited power are, teachers don’t understand that Congress has no constitutonal authority to do the following. Congress cannot regulate and fund any aspect of public schools, including not laying taxes which corrupt federal politicians use to subsidize school programs that encourage vote-winning entitlement programs.


26 posted on 12/12/2013 11:01:41 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind
The Liberal Bastion Of San Francisco Suspends A Shocking Number Of Black Kids For 'Willful Defiance'
27 posted on 12/12/2013 11:29:59 AM PST by blam
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To: GeronL

Oh, no doubt it’s broken.

I do agree it’s full of LW BS and black magic. Can’t teach anyway when over half the time is spent getting students under control.


28 posted on 12/12/2013 1:28:06 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


29 posted on 12/12/2013 2:38:15 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: SeekAndFind

Black people don’t study and consequently flunk out.

And send the bill to the taxpayers.

Surprise!


30 posted on 12/12/2013 2:42:53 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: SeekAndFind

Anybody who has ever spent time in a public school has observed these results up close and personal.


31 posted on 12/12/2013 2:56:40 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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A friend who just turned 70 (she’s a youthful 70), wants to get the H out of the public school system. She bit the bullet & stayed there long enough to get maximum Social Security. Would have wanted to stay longer, for financial reasons. But no money on earth will give her any incentive, at this point.

She gave up teaching these kids — black/Hispanic, inner city; you get the picture. When I told her that a lot of them were from basically rural people, she initially accused me of being racist (although I feel the same way about certain whites). Now she agrees with me. There are just too many variables, all working against them. Money thrown at improving the schools (& the scores) has been money thrown down the sewer.

It’s not that these kids are a totally lost cause. Maybe some will pull themselves up by the bootstraps later; others might get a lucky break. But most will follow the familiar, dismal trajectory — gangs, pregnancy, welfare.


32 posted on 12/12/2013 7:39:13 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Madam Theophilus
It is the assumption that children from lower classes or disfunctional families cannot learn and the educational methods twisted to fit that model that have imprisoned most of American children today into becoming barely literate after 12 years of mandatory public education.

No, it is the acceptance of disruptive behavior from many kids which have sabotaged learning in inner-city classrooms.

In the suburbs, it's the abandonment of grouping kids by ability which has caused slower students to hold back the faster students.

33 posted on 12/13/2013 3:40:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The gap in test scores between America and other countries goes away when broken down by race. White American students top those of most European countries. Asian American students come out ahead of them. It’s not that Asian students somehow have access to better schools. Often they go to the same urban multicultural schools that are “failing” everyone else.

And when you break down crime stats by race and ethnicity, white non-Hispanic America's homicide rate is not higher than Europe's, despite all the guns we have.

34 posted on 12/13/2013 6:23:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
I’d be interested to see these numbers adjusted for household income.

Journal of Blacks in Higher Education: "The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test":

But there is a major flaw in the thesis that income differences explain the racial gap. Consider these three observable facts from The College Board's 2005 data on the SAT:

• Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 993. This is 129 points higher than the national mean for all blacks.

• Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 61 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000.

• Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 85 points below the mean score for whites from all income levels, 139 points below the mean score of whites from families at the same income level, and 10 points below the average score of white students from families whose income was less than $10,000.

This phenomenon was also noted in "The Bell Curve".
35 posted on 12/13/2013 6:39:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks.


36 posted on 12/13/2013 7:31:36 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind
Dig down a few levels, and you get to here. The graph itself is worth a thousand words.

It's like the violence problem. Is America one of the most violent of the first-world western nations? Perhaps. But a certain demographic that makes up less than 13% of the population is responsible for committing OVER HALF of all of the violent crime in this country. Without that demographic, our violent crime rate would be half of what it is.

The same thing goes for education. A couple demographic groups drag down our national test score average to such an extent that, instead of being in 7th place, we're in 19th and falling.

The cultures of these demographics is what needs to be changed.

37 posted on 12/13/2013 8:35:03 AM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Monitor

vdare.com is closed for Christmas. Your link doesn’t work.


38 posted on 12/13/2013 6:13:44 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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