Skip to comments.Is the zebiba/zibiba the forehead Mark of the Beast?
Posted on 12/13/2013 3:42:03 PM PST by RoosterRedux
Zebiba or zibaba.
The Antichrist has not manifested. An angel will fly through the heavens warning not to take the Mark of the Beast. Verses 9-11 but verse 12 should be included as well.
King James Version (KJV)
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
When I was a kid, I surfed as much as possible. I developed little knots just below my knees (where my flesh met the surfboard).
A mark of honor...similar to the Zebiba, but different.
And why are you sure you are right?
I am not certain that what I suggest is "right"...but you are sure that it isn't.
Please enlighten us.
What’s the frequency Kenneth?
Is anyone being stopped from buying or selling due to lack of this mark?
I think God is much more subtle than requiring a flying angel. But He might.
I don't know of course, but He does ask that we be wise concerning this matter.
That said, except that those who lack the mark pay the jizya...they may not trade and indeed might be killed.
All they have to do is take sandpaper or a rubbing compound and rub it on their forehead often enough and a mark will appear.
Anwar Sadat of Egypt was well known of carrying such a mark on his forehead. The muslims who assasinated him had no respect for his devotion to islam.
Ping for later
The Greek word is “charagma” (sp) - a tattoo.
When that day comes, there will be no mistaking the choice. Hence God sending an angel.
However, we are moving that way with barcodes, scanners, embedded chips, tattoos becoming the norm.
Can’t be. VayJay and obama don’t sport one...
Did not angels appear in the sky before the wise men?
Did an angel not go to Daniel while he was praying, but was held up by a demon named the Prince Of Persia?
And the key word you used is "MAY". or may not.
You know the "chi xi stigma" sign as "666"...you know Islam is as anti-Christian as it can get.
Charagma is also merely a "sign."
And what greater sign is there than praying 5 times a day.
In the world Caliphate, Sharia will rule and there will be no jizya. All infidels will be dead.
The false prophet has two horns like a lamb.
That means he appears to be Christian, but speaks like the Devil.
Just hang loose. These things are not upon us yet.
However, yes, by it’s own definition, Islam is definitely of the spirit of antichrist, denying every New Testament piece of doctrine.
Why couldn't this be the aircraft of 9/11.
I refer you to the "chi xi stigma"...John the Revelator saw not the number 666 but the symbol...
Now compare this to the symbol of Islam (the bismillah)...
We will not know what the number or mark is until the antichrist is revealed. Those left here on this earth that we have warned should then know not only who it is but will then be able to know what the mark will be.
There is nothing in those marks that can be identified with a man.
Obama. Has he ever told the truth? Is he not as close to the father of lies as one can get.
You say, "just hang loose." I suggest you think wisely.
The truth is developing before your eyes but you keep looking for something that fits your preconceived ideas.
No, it is not as simple as it seems...but the prophecy is unfolding before your eyes.
We need to rethink the prophecy...but the element lacking is wisdom (the product of humility and intelligence, holiness, and discernment).
Unless your premillennialism theory is simply wrong (and I honestly don't know if it is or not).
But we cannot base our lives on theory but on the Cross.
Believe me, I follow this stuff pretty closely. More closely than most the population, by far.
The Antichrist has to be associated with Rome. Obama has some creepy stuff surrounding him, but until he becomes U.N. Secretary General or some such, I do not think it will come out of the USA.
But I think we are witnessing the frightening decline of a once-great nation.
We may have to agree to disagree on certain points. :)
They might. It might be slight--almost invisible--but still some small mark of their devotion to Allah.
Or maybe the White House itself and its devotion to Islam is their mark.
I do believe you. I have watched you for many years.
But I also watch, and study, and pray about his stuff for days on end.
I do not speak lightly about it.
I haven't said that Obama is the AntiChrist...but I haven't removed him from consideration.
I don't believe you are arrogant...but you must protect your mind from such.
See your freepmail.
First, it’s a mark in the forehead, OR on the hand. This is only a mark on the forehead.
Second, the mark is one that the beast tries to cause all men to take, and by the context, this seems like an event happening during the tribulation period. So, since the beast hasn’t taken power yet, then it doesn’t seem likely he is making people take this mark.
Third, this is a mark that can take years to develop, and isn’t guaranteed to develop on any individual even if they do pray to Allah for years, banging their head on the floor. The beast only has a few years to complete his role, so this would seem a very inefficient mark to institute, considering the above.
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
In the Greek it says "if not the one having the mark the name of the beast or the number of the name of it".
Its not a symbol. Its either the name of the beast or the number 666.
I gotta tell ya. I see absolutely no similarity in those symbols.
Click on C or concordance...and examine the language the it was written in.
Christ desires Us to focus on the creator not the signs. When WWI and than WWII people believed the end was near. Yes we are in the Last Days or End Times but we do not know the day, hour, minute when the end comes. Some believe in the rapture will occur others believe there will significant carnage whereby there will be blood flowing, the plains of Megiddio will be awash in a war that will be unlike no other war. Good and Evil.
But by focus on Christ the signs mean little. My mother who grew up during WWII remembers everyone proclaiming that Hitler was the antichrist. where was the focus on an evil man bent on hatred and evil. just an example.
it is referential how many dead Americans are there from useless BS "wars" in moslem countries
In Revelation 13:18... This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.
We are told to watch for the sign...indeed the entire Book of Revelation was given us for this purpose.
I believe you are naive...not a liar.
But get with the program or some poor soul will follow your advice to the land of the lost.
There is perhaps your problem in understanding prophecy. There are two fatal flaws in not being able to understand prophecy is scripture. One is denying or not understanding the pre tribulation rapture of the body of Christ and the second is not believing or misunderstanding the re-gathering of Israel to fulfill the last seven years of the prophecy of Daniel which will be the seven year tribulation.
The rapture of the church prior to the beginning of the seven year tribulation is paramount for the antichrist to function the way he will. Then once the church is gone God will again deal exclusively with the nation of Israel for the last seven years of the 490 years allotted them in the prophecy by Daniel. Once a person understands those two prophetic facts all of prophecy in scripture can make sense.
>>But we cannot base our lives on theory but on the Cross.<<
Neither the pre trib rapture nor the seven year tribulation are theory. They are prophecy. The millennium begins after the seven year tribulation.
My goodness. Accusing someone of lying is rather harsh and personal. If that is his view it certainly doesn’t constitute a lie. I think after that outburst I will simply discontinue our conversation. Have a good evening.
If not I will respond tomorrow.
You are obviously a woman...just how wonderful is your goodness.
I know it’s really difficult for low-information types to accept the concept that Middle-Eastern writing is full of metaphors, but...
the “mark on the forehead” represents thoughts and attitudes...
the “mark on the hand” represents deeds.
If everything in the Bible is literal and should be followed to the letter, live...
Leviticus 15 or you’re a hypocrite.
I dare you.
The Bible is full of metaphors and parables. Look up “metaphor” if you have to.
Youre forgiven. Human emotion does creep in now and again doesn’t it. It was not I but hondact200 who you accused of lying however.
Call me naive and call me a liar. Typical outburst of someone whom wants to utilize prooftexting scripture verses many times out of context of what all scripture was intended for building up the body of christ, correcting when in error and for reminding those whom are in Christ to be a faithful witness.
remember Christ wants us to focus on him. Looking at the signs will lead many astray. There will be many false christs and false teachers whom will lead people into a false belief.
In Modern history look at Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple in Guyana. False teaching and False Teacher brought about the demise of over 900 people who drank the cyanide laced koolaid.
The Apostle Paul wrote to the early Christian churches in Rome, Corinth, Letters to fellow leader Timothy, Titus, Thessolianika, Colosse, Ephesus, Phillippi, letter to Philemon about false teachers and false beliefs that were creeping into the church.
John whom wrote Revelations while in prison on the island of Patmos is actually Mark John. He wrote of us the things to come. But he did want the believers to understand his writings in light of all scripture. Revelations gives us an understanding what will happen. But there will be false teachers false preachers and so forth whom will desire for issues that get the emotions of people whom desire to see something that is not there.
In the Old Testament Moses writes of a snake’s head on a rod, when the people were bitten by the snake they only had to look at the rod with the image of the snake to be healed. Unfortunately the Israelities started to worship the snake. Manna from heaven was given to the Israelities. many did not heed the instructions on gathering manna, so at times they gathered more and in the morning it was filled with maggots.
Christs desires us not to be like the Israelites to look for the signs but to focus on him. It is our faith and belief in him who will allow us to faithful to the end. Christ never promised those whom believe in him that their life will be easy.
the AntiChrist will lead many astray because he too will perform signs and wonders. These signs and wonders will make people believe him to be the messiah and they will believe and swear allegiance. Suddenly his true nature will come out and many whom believed in the false teacher will have been led astray. These are things to come.
Very sorry for such unseemly behavior.
I have been called worse. No problem I have thick skin. Comes with being trained as a pastor. It happens and do not worry about it. Just wanted you to know. Sometimes on FR life happens. Have Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year.
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