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Terracotta Warriors Inspired by Ancient Greek Art
LiveScience ^ | 10 December 2013 | Owen Jarus

Posted on 12/14/2013 5:36:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Nickel's evidence includes newly translated ancient records that tell a fantastic tale of giant statues that "appeared" in the far west, inspiring the first emperor of China to duplicate them in front of his palace. This story offers evidence of early contact between China and the West, contacts that Nickel says inspired the First Emperor (which is what Qin Shi Huangdi called himself) to not only duplicate the 12 giant statues but to build the massive Terracotta Army along with other life-size sculptures.

Before the First Emperor's time, life-size sculptures were not built in China, and Nickel argues the idea to build so many of them, so suddenly, came from kingdoms in Asia that had been created and influenced by Alexander the Great's campaigns...

The records do not say how this appearance happened, who brought them there, or who exactly the statues depicted; they do reveal the statues werelarger than life, rising about 38 feet (11.55 meters) high, with feet that were 4.5 feet long (1.38 m). They so impressed the First Emperor that he decided to build 12 duplicates in front of his palace by melting down bronze weapons that had been used for war.

On each duplicate an inscription was created telling of the "giants" (the original statues) that appeared in Lintao. The inscriptions, recorded by Yan Shigu, who lived around 1,400 years agoand used an earlier written source, said that in the "26th Year of the Emperor, when he first brought together all-under-heaven, divided the principalities into provinces and districts, and unified the weights and measures, [these] giants appeared in Lintao ..."

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: centralasia; china; godsgravesglyphs; greece
About 8,000 Terracotta Warriors were buried in three pits less than a mile to the northeast of the mausoleum of the First Emperor of China, Qin Shi Huangdi. They include infantryman, archers, cavalry, charioteers and generals. Now new research, including newly translated ancient records, indicates that the construction of these warriors was inspired by Greek art. CREDIT: Lukas Hlavac | Shutterstock

The 8,000 life-sized warriors buried alongside the first emperor of China may have resulted from contact between Greece and China, suggests translated ancient records that tell a fantastic tale of 12 giant statues appearing in the far west.

1 posted on 12/14/2013 5:36:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 12/14/2013 5:37:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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3 posted on 12/14/2013 6:20:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

It would be interesting to get from writings, the style and who was depicted in the giant statues.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 6:23:51 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: SunkenCiv

5 posted on 12/14/2013 6:24:56 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv

Alexander’s push to the east ended up having a huge cultural impact. The Hellenistic World in the Eastern Mediterranean became a funky place with a lot of exotic oriental influence. And the Asian world was introduced to the achievements of Classical Greece. Everyone came out ahead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhist_art


6 posted on 12/14/2013 6:26:14 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SunkenCiv

Kipling comes to mind:

“OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!”


7 posted on 12/14/2013 6:26:21 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: SunkenCiv

8 posted on 12/14/2013 6:27:42 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, let me see if I have this straight: the Chinese were introduced to a new idea from the West, copied it and mass-produced it. Sounds about right...


9 posted on 12/14/2013 6:47:34 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Half-brother is Watching You!)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Heh, heh, good point!


10 posted on 12/14/2013 7:34:03 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: JimSEA

Same here. I occurred to me that the statues weren’t Greek per se, but Buddhist in origin.


11 posted on 12/14/2013 8:18:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: lump in the melting pot

I was watching Chinese TV the other day, and they featured a visit to some factory that produces copies of the Terracotta Warriors. Several American folks doing the tour, and they came to the gift shop at the end. Curious thing is that you can buy the smaller versions (1 foot or less) of the warriors.....but they will sell you various full-size ones. The issue is....getting the thing back to the US. It’d probably cost at least $2k to ship the thing back in one piece.

If they could find some way of mass-producing them, and getting them into some US port cheaply....I think a lot of guys would like to have a warrior in their backyard, as a gimmick of some type.


12 posted on 12/14/2013 9:11:16 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: SunkenCiv

It would make sense but the exact realism isn’t generally Buddhist until quite recently.


13 posted on 12/14/2013 9:52:03 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw the terra cotta warriors in 1983 when just a few of them had been excavated. The uniforms are all different, as are the faces. Some of the faces looked western. I guessed Turkish at the time. They are amazing.

Of course they were painted in bright colors at the time they were buried. There were a few of them where the paint had been restored when I viewed them in 1983.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 9:28:08 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sounds great! If they were painted, that would fit the Greek and Roman way of sculpture.

I think a new batch was found in an adjacent area, not that many years ago.


15 posted on 12/15/2013 9:37:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: JimSEA

The Greeks arrived and took a lot with them. Central Asia’s depictions of Buddha have been realistic (other than the fact that no one really knows what Buddha looked like) since the 1st c AD, which is not as far back as this, but these giant statues that the Chinese reported as suddenly appearing apparently no longer exist, and may represent the kind of monumental depictions such as were done in the Middle Ages.

The Mauryan Empire ruled a chunk of what is now Afghanistan, and the third ruler converted to Jainism (his grandfather and founder of the dynasty had been Jainist) which is known to have built large images, that’s a possibility as well.

Classical Greeks are also known to have built at least two monumental statues — one was Zeus in the “seven wonders” temple, and the other the Colossus of Rhodes. Maybe there were more, but none come to mind. They did lifesize or somewhat larger than life size images, and pimped them up with paint, shells, and other colorful doodads.


16 posted on 12/15/2013 10:07:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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Oops, and there was a big statue of Athena inside the Parthenon.


17 posted on 12/15/2013 3:13:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: lump in the melting pot

So, let me see if I have this straight: the Chinese were introduced to a new idea from the West, copied it and mass-produced it. Sounds about right...

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Yeah, but this was in the days before they discovered the joys of shoddy production.


18 posted on 12/15/2013 6:01:35 PM PST by Bigg Red (He gives power to the faint, and to him who has no might he increases strength.--Is 40)
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To: pepsionice
We were in China about 8? years ago and saw these as well a a factory where they are reproduced. We bought an 18” warrior and had him shipped to us. That size wasn't that expensive to have shipped, but it did take months to get.
19 posted on 12/16/2013 6:42:17 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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