Skip to comments.Noah's Ark 'Was a Massive Double-Decker Coracle'
Posted on 12/16/2013 10:52:52 AM PST by Theoria
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What’s Gopher Wood?
How did the two kiwi birds, which have no wings and cannot swim, get off of the ark and get down to New Zealand; and they are not found anywhere else in the world. Never mind the all of the different species of kangaroos found only in Australia.
According to Genesis 1, man and all the animals were vegetarians:
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
This changed after the flood. In Genesis 9:
Genesis 9:2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
My father is a preacher so I did take it literally for about 10 years, too long by my estimation. The bumping my head off walls of logic (or illogic) is enlightening, not frightening.
They hitched a ride with Noah’s 8 descendants who populated the entire planet. Coconuts don’t migrate, however.
Another, 'I don't know'.
Could be plywood, composite wood ... or maybe it was some special super-dooper water resistant wood that no longer exists.
I thought the 'pitching' inside and out was the important part to ensure the water proof seal, but maybe the gopher wood (whatever that was) was also important.
Genesis 11:11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
“all with knowledge of the flood. “
But all of them (except one) forgot about Noah. Seems strange given that he’s the central character and hero of the story.
I believe so. "Rivets" seemed out of place.
I am sorry that you came to a point to reject the truth. Hopefully it is just a rebellious phase.
I had the same question of why they were ignoring the detailed instructions in the Bible.
Not forgetting the Egyptians who have a written history that precedes, is co-existent with, and which continues uninterruptedly after the time of the Flood, yet somehow they were unaware of that catastrophic global event. Not forgetting the Chinese who also have no memory of such a flood.
It is not a big deal that different cultures called Noah by different names. Utnapishtim from Sumeria, Menu from India, Nu-ah from China, etc.
I’ll take my chances with explanations that don’t defy credulity, especially when I’m specifically asked to reject logic.
That was my point to molsen209 in post #3.
I don’t use the /sarc tag in cases like this....
Where is that?
What I really came here to say was that Genesis is pretty clear on the dimensions....which do NOT result in a circular ark.
“Right.....What’s a cubit”
“Let me see....I used to know....”
The world is a hologram!!!
They could have been carried by swallows.
Comes out in March. I supplied most of the wood to build the two arks.
Pray America is Waking
But African swallows are non-migratory, sorry
Because mountains are created when two plates colide and push the sea floor upward. We also know that there used to be many inland seas. This explains your questions but in no way debunks Noah or tries to refute the bible. Accept simple scientifc truths when they are clear.
Not European swallows, mind you. Only a pair of African swallows. On a strand of creeper. Held under the dorsal guiding feather.
I really don’t think it came from dino’s. I have a hard time believing that oil came from all the dead plants and creatures millions of years ago. There was always much more abundant plant life than animal life.
The Noah’s ark “myth”?
However, you put a needle through a camel, and you’re asking for trouble.
yeah he might bite you and all that spit.
Don’t even get me started on the cost over runs!!! ;-)
“Some aspects and interpretations of some places of the bible could be taken literally when it is in it’s proper context and other times as Jesus Christ sometimes would speak in parables taken as in a allegory.”
I get that. I’m attempting to clarify which is the flood, Noah’s tale, tower of Babel etc are. Are they allegories or historical accounts of what actually happened.
“The bible translates or rather the bible interprets the bible by it’s self.”
That’s convenient, and yet makes no sense.
No one ever tried to tell me the camel through the eye of the needle story was about a real miraculous camel who could squeeze through tight spaces.
HEY!!!watch it with that!!! ;-)
Yeah, it’s obvious this is going nowhere. I don’t appear to be communicating well enough to be understood.
“Perhaps this is not going anywhere because I am not following a certain preconceived agenda.”
I’m sure that’s it.
I read somewhere that a cubit was the length of a man’s inside forearm,from the wrist to the elbow joint. I also read that the bottom of the Ark had a hole,where the animal waste could be shoveled into the sea.
American Indians had a oral history of a great flood.
Egypt: People have become rebellious. Atum said he will destroy all he made and return the earth to the Primordial Water which was its original state. Atum will remain, in the form of a serpent, with Osiris. [Faulkner, plate 30] (Unfortunately the version of the papyrus with the flood story is damaged and unclear. See also Budge, p. ccii.) Link
Not forgetting the Chinese who also have no memory of such a flood.
China The Chinese classic called the Hihking tells about "the family of Fuhi," that was saved from a great flood. This ancient story tells that the entire land was flooded; the mountains and everything, however one family survived in a boat. The Chinese consider this man the father of their civilization. This record indicates that Fuhi, his wife, three sons, and three daughters were the only people that escaped the great flood. It is claimed, that he and his family were the only people alive on earth, and repopulated the world. Link
Not forgetting Natufian, who doesn't know what s/he is talking about.
Do those accounts make the Noah flood story more or less plausible?
Eating and Death are very deep topics.
Death entered the world post fall, long before the flood.
As we know, God made clothes for Adam and Eve, from the skins of animals, sacrificed for this purpose. This is indeed symbolic of how our sins would be covered by blood sacrifice. God could have just have easily used a plant to form a covering for Adam and Eve.
One would assume that Adam and Eve’s offspring also sacrificed animals for coverings (clothing’s) as well (that they did not go naked). Also, recall Abel’s sacrifice, where he separated the fat from the meat (implies mankind was eating meat). Let’s ignore that point for awhile.
Do you suppose post fall, that animals were all vegetarian as well? That they only became meat eaters after the flood?
Well, looking at it from your point of view, I can see your argument holds weight as well, so I must say that I can’t know (determine) for certain IF meat was eaten by animals or man pre-flood or not.
Also there is the issue of what is allowed vs what is practiced (in other words, even if God says they “can” eat mean now, does not imply that SOME men or animals did so before, against God’s law). The fact that Noah was righteous does not imply he was sinless...
Very interesting topic, and it keeps going, considering the “unclean” meats became clean after the ascension!
I believe it’s on Mt. Ararat in Turkey, up close to the old Soviet border.
Why were you asking questions, as though for information, when your mind is closed and you were only going to reject the responses?
If death didn’t enter the world until Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge, why were they eating in the first place?
No doubt. Maybe they threw it over the side. As far as keeping the animals from going nuts, the Holy Spirit had to be covering everyone and everything in the boat, providing peace. Makes sense that would have been the case.
Although those are not very sixteenth century, they're a lot more user-friendly than great kilts.
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