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German imperialism and the African Holocaust (article)
Creation.com ^ | 11-28-2013 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 12/20/2013 11:16:10 AM PST by fishtank

German imperialism and the African Holocaust

by Bill Johnson

Published: 28 November 2013 (GMT+10)

Imperialism, or extending a country’s power through military force, drew enormous strength from Darwin’s theory of evolution.1 Many European powers feared losing out in the struggle for existence and earnestly sought to expand their living space by colonizing far and distant places that possessed a wealth of natural resources. One such power was Germany and one place where the natives were murdered and the land plundered was German colonial Africa.

Late-nineteenth-century Germans were influenced by a number of anthropological assumptions, two of which were: (1) White supremacy (on the evolutionary ladder whites were on top and blacks at the bottom), and (2) Ratzel’s Lebensraum theory, the idea that as groups migrate there is a “struggle for space”, which results in the extermination of inferior groups.2 Such a combination had disastrous consequences as Germany colonized parts of the African continent allocated to it at the Berlin Conference of 1884/85.

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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: africa; darwin; germany; hitler

German troops in combat with the Herero in a painting by Richard Knötel. wikipedia.org

1 posted on 12/20/2013 11:16:10 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Beware of Darwin’s brain ....

it only leads to death.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 11:17:07 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

The Belgians killed sixty million people in the Belgian Congo and made the Germans look like rank amateurs. But since it’s fashionable and trendy to bash the Germans, do proceed.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 11:20:14 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: fishtank
Is it "German bad guy day" already???
And so close to Christmas too.
4 posted on 12/20/2013 11:21:24 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: fishtank

Of course England colonized India and North America long before Darwin.
Spain colonized the Americas long before Darwin, and millions were killed in the process.
Portugal colonized Africa long before Darwin.
Germany colonized Africa after Darwin.

What can we learn from this?

1. Creationists are dishonest.
2. Darwinist are slower to murder people in colonial schemes than non-Darwinists.


5 posted on 12/20/2013 11:22:48 AM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be relearned.)
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To: MeganC

Sorry, but I really don’t work for the Belgian government, the last time I checked.

I’d be willing to bet the Belgians were motivated by Chuck Darwin, as well.


6 posted on 12/20/2013 11:23:09 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

“The Germans, as well as the other European powers, followed a blueprint laid out many decades earlier in Darwin’s writings.”

Very insightful article.

Most importantly, it proves that Charles Darwin and his so-called theory of evolution is directly responsible for atrocities committed during the Age of Imperialism against the African people by the European victims of Darwin.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 11:27:24 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: donmeaker

So.........

... a completely new reason to kill people (Darwinism) is not quite as bad as a much older reason to kill people (i.e. money, greed, selfishness, etc???)

No - sir, Darwinists are dishonest.

Oh, by the way, Darwinists killed 100 million people (Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol-Pot) in the 20th century.

Remember???

They (ahem) made up for “lost time” with a VENGEANCE.

Throw in abortion on top of that, and the Darwinist is the biggest murdering baistage in all of history.
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8 posted on 12/20/2013 11:27:33 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: donmeaker

From your FR page, you say:

“Abortion: I don’t know when life starts, until I have a definition of what life is. Lacking confidence in that matter, Abortion should be regulated by the states, like all other medical procedures. To overrule the several bad precedents, Congress should pass judicial regulations, ending federal judicial meddling in state medical regulations.”

.... and you are:

“”Religion. I am a Roman Pagan. I see great commonality between the Christian G-d the Father and Roman Jupiter (Zeus-Pater). I see the Christian Holy Spirit as being analogous to Juno/Hera, the Divine Mother, the Comforter. Roman pagans don’t achieve the forgiveness of sins by the sacrifice of Jesus, rather, we sacrifice portions of animals, (usually by means of the weekend Barbecue). I have especial interest in Vulcan/Hephaestus. I owe the G-ds a life of courage, diligence, and purity, that I may, perhaps, some day be honored among the heroes in Elysium.””

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You need to repent of your idolatry.

Acts 17:30 “In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”


9 posted on 12/20/2013 11:33:26 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

10 posted on 12/20/2013 11:35:27 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: donmeaker

To be honest, something happened within unexplored Africa in the 1500s that caused interior tribesmen to flee westward. This caused conflicts with blacks already living there and resulted in wars with those from the interior.

Those interior tribesmen, captured by the coastal people in such wars, were murdered and eaten or sold to various slave ship owners who then shipped them to the Americas.

There were no blacks in South Africa when the Portuguese settled there. It was not until SHAKA sent his impis south driving the other tribes before them that a massive influx of blacks into South Africa began.

The corral of Shaka had a radius of 500 miles around it in which no person was allowed to enter. All those blacks had been driven out.

In the area that became THE ORANGE FREE STATE, was depopulated of blacks by other native chieftans who waged a war of genocide in the area. Whites later settled there because it was an empty area.

As you can see, genocide is not new in Africa.


11 posted on 12/20/2013 11:39:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: donmeaker
“1. Creationists are dishonest. 2. Darwinist are slower to murder people in colonial schemes than non-Darwinists.”

How many Creationists or anti-Evolutionist Christians do you know who actually believe in Gal 6:12 [”Kindness unto ALL people ...”] and at the same time preach survival of ‘the fittest’? Darwin had ice water running through his veins, and so did the Crazy Kaiser.

I hope you are simply disingenuous because what kind of brain honestly compares corrupt Spanish conquistadors as the same as modern American Christians?


Speaking for myself and others, many anti-evolutionists are NOT creationists. Many believe in “Intelligent Design”. I myself am not a Creationist because the Sun was not even created until the third day. [Not solar days.] Nor do I think that Genesis is perfectly interpreted. In a later scripture, Egypt allegedly fed the entire earth. I am not an 'Egyptianist' either. An obvious misinterpretation or perhaps a misconception from an ancient viewpoint. But as for Darwinists, 'random selection' is 'out' last I heard since some mutations have been scientifically proven to be 'intuitive'. So the world is still a big darn mystery, 'aint it? I still tend toward Evolution, but at least I know enough to know that NO ONE knows.

12 posted on 12/20/2013 11:50:36 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Powerless? Not with the Liberty Amendments)
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To: fishtank

Let’s talk about the Macedonian colonization of Asia. Or Egypt’s colonization of Africa. Or Rome’s colonization of Western Europe. Or Khan’s conquests of Eastern Europe. Or Atilla’s ... or Saladin’s ... or the Lakota conquest of the Black Hills ... or the tribal conquests of the Aztecs, the Incas, the Mayans ... Then there’s Shaka Zulu ...

Why single out the Germans? Mao and his ideological brethren slaughtered a lot more than Hitler ever did. And that was in recent memory.


13 posted on 12/20/2013 11:53:08 AM PST by IronJack
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To: MeganC

The Belgians killed 60 million people in the Belgian Congo?

Never heard of that holocaust before. Any documentation?


14 posted on 12/20/2013 11:54:42 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: fishtank
Oh, by the way, Darwinists killed 100 million people (Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol-Pot) in the 20th century.

Putz.

The Soviets were communists. The NAZI's were socialists. They killed because of their political beliefs to rid themselves of political opponents or blame others for their own failings. So what if they believed in evolution. So did many allied powers. Your argument is like saying a belief in mathematics, geology, and biology is the basis for murdering others. Putz.

15 posted on 12/20/2013 11:57:52 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I hope you see the irony I intended.

In my response to the post that was intended by the author and poster to blame all those who are convinced by evidence of Evolution for German cruelty in Africa during the ‘scramble for Africa’, I blamed all those not convinced by evidence for evolution for his dishonesty.

It was intended as a bad example of the method used by the author.

It is vastly unfair to blame Darwin for the acts of Germans after he died. I see it all the time.

Darwin did not have ice water in his veins. He held strongly that it was the duty of those better off to help those less well off, and recognized that social structures would have significant effect on evolutionary fitness.

For example: newborns are significantly less fit than adults for almost all macrocellular species. Yet they have to survive for the species to continue. Social structures explain how that happens with animals, and that nearly always trumps mere form and structure. Humans, having greater ability to form more complex social structures, would have greater ability to overcome our weaknesses in form and structure.

What really bugs me, is people who lump together multiple things they do not like, and assert, without evidence, they must always go together, and then lump together things they do like, and assert (without evidence) that these things must always go together.

In the real works, some Christians accept evolution. Others don’t. Some Christians are Democratic socialists. Other are not. People are amazingly diverse in their ideas, and surprisingly close to identical in their genotype.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 12:04:33 PM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be relearned.)
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To: fishtank

No doubt I will get the email from G-d any day now.


17 posted on 12/20/2013 12:06:10 PM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be relearned.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

18 posted on 12/20/2013 12:06:44 PM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: fishtank

So God created all this terrible stuff, but it’s Darwin’s Fault?


19 posted on 12/20/2013 12:16:36 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: fishtank
This is a ridiculous article. European colonization in Africa began centuries before Darwin lived. So did the mistreatment of Africans. Anyone heard of the slave trade?

The Germans were latecomers and bit players in the colonization game. But they did act like Germans.

Darwin had little to do with it. One of the most horrific wars in history was fought in Germany, well before Darwin - the Thirty Years War. Some areas did not recover to their pre-war population until the 19th Century.

20 posted on 12/20/2013 12:49:33 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: IronJack

Hitler got the idea for Concentration Camps from what the British did to the Boers.


21 posted on 12/20/2013 12:52:49 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
There were no blacks in South Africa when the Portuguese settled there.

This is inaccurate. There were no "blacks" at the Cape, but they'd been in parts of SA to the north and east for a very long time indeed.

Probably they started moving in during the early to mid first millennium, IOW a thousand years or so before Europeans showed up. http://www.historytoday.com/shula-marks/south-africa-myth-empty-land

Shaka was a bad dude, but he was in what is now SA, in fact somewhat centrally located, and the people he drove out had been living in SA. Some fled from him almost up to Ethiopia, displacing and exterminating other tribes as they went.

With these factual corrections, I otherwise generally agree with you. Given the technological constraints he worked under, Shaka probably qualifies as the most gifted killer in human history.

Was in hospital recently for surgery. The post-care nurse was named Shaka. She said she was named after a mighty African king, which I guess is one way of looking at it. Being the disgustingly polite person I am, I didn't fill her in on his less attractive attributes.

Also it is one of my rules to never piss off a nurse while unable to effectively defend myself. :)

22 posted on 12/20/2013 12:53:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: MeganC

Heh.....Belgians are evil!

I never had a chance to read “King Leopold’s Ghost”, but I did at least watch the documentary film based on the book.

Hair-raising, to say the least.


23 posted on 12/20/2013 1:21:39 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: fishtank
You would be wrong.

The atrocities occurred while the Congo was a possession of Leopold II, a staunch Christian. He, essentially, purchased the Congo as a booby prize because his previous scheme to acquire the Philippines was unsuccessful.

24 posted on 12/20/2013 1:24:52 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; MeganC; Theoria

Rummell talks about it as well.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

His orignal link to the detail has gone stale, but you can see it using the Wayback Machine.

http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/12/reevaluating-colonial-democide.html


25 posted on 12/20/2013 1:38:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Corrected 2nd link from my post above:

https://web.archive.org/web/20071002061806/http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/12/reevaluating-colonial-democide.html


26 posted on 12/20/2013 1:41:50 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

No documentation but this is from a recent documentary about the Congo. In particular the program focused on a library that used to be funded by the Belgian government and, for fifty years now, the staff has continued to work at the library without pay in hopes that the Belgians will one day return.

The man who was narrating made the case for the deaths of sixty million people during the Belgian reign and noted how some towns and cities that were once prominent are not all but forgotten due to the mass murders.

One former city had a large railroad station that was abandoned and left to rot. It looked like the French railroad station I saw in the movie ‘Hugo’. I mention this so maybe the bit of information can help you find the same documentary.

I’m not much for documentaries but this one was compelling and fascinating in that it told so much about things I had never heard about. It’s amazing that so little is known in the West about such a large country.


27 posted on 12/20/2013 2:21:30 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: colorado tanker

I’ve got a nice coin dated 1912, from “Deustche Ostafrika”; I think that became Tanzania.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 2:23:48 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Yes, that was Tanzania, although back then it also included Burundi and Rwanda. After WWI the British took Tanganyika from the Germans and then hived off Rwanda and Burundi and gave them to the Belgians as a consolation prize.

The African Queen was about escaping German East Africa after WWI started. And the Germans really had a small navy on the lakes.

29 posted on 12/20/2013 2:39:39 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

There may be a distinction between Creationist and Intelligent Design types, but no difference.


30 posted on 12/20/2013 4:03:05 PM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be relearned.)
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To: fishtank

Perhaps you need to repent of your lack of faith.

I guess you don’t know much about Roman religion either.


31 posted on 12/20/2013 4:47:38 PM PST by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be relearned.)
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To: colorado tanker

I know they were unable to hold the few colonies they had due to the British navy (on the seas); in West Africa they lost what is today Namibia, and in the Pacific they lost the Caroline Islands. Like Italy they were late to the colonizing game, both countries only being born themselves in 1871.


32 posted on 12/21/2013 3:43:25 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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