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Very Good Documentary On Putin (if anyone's interested)
You Tube ^ | Dec 24, 2013 | ThePassionateEye

Posted on 12/31/2013 7:48:54 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear

This is quite a good documentary of Putin that I ran across if anyone's interested. He, truly, is a VERY dangerous man. I know, myself, have admired his strong-arming on particular issues, but don't forget who he is and his background.

The dissident at the end is crying that he knows that Communism has returned to Russia. Heartfelt.

Putin has a definite stronghold on Europe through energy. IOW....."Who run BarterTown?"


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1 posted on 12/31/2013 7:48:54 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Here ‘s the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxmjvzzApH8


2 posted on 12/31/2013 7:49:25 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Nostalgic for the oligarchy.


3 posted on 12/31/2013 8:01:39 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If Russia and China were both suddenly sucked into another dimension like a cheap science fiction movie, Europe would still be wholly in the grip of communism.

Pay better attention to what the EU functionally is.


4 posted on 12/31/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I'll say it again, Putin is the best ruler Russia has ever had since Tsar Peter and Bork Obunga is the worst ruler any advanced state has ever had since Nero. Russians were literally starving when Putin took over and they no longer are. He has saved the world from the green/Malthusian scheme to crush all of the world's economies for the glory of Gaea. He has prevented Bork Obunga from starting a world war in Syria and he has made it a major piece of Russian policy to protect Christians in the world; Christianity would have no home in Syria were the lunatics our own government supports to take that place over.

Naturally enough when you fix as many problems as this guy has, you make a lot of enemies and there is a lot of bullshit floating around, such as the little piece of stupidity you just posted.

5 posted on 12/31/2013 8:04:56 PM PST by varmintman
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Something seems to be true in this video but authors are leberals and it’s showing.
What is an alternative to Putin’s regime in Russia? What makes Putin’s Russia worse than any of their previous regimes?
You are certainly out of touch with reality if you think Russia is ready to live under Jefferson’s ideas right now too.


6 posted on 12/31/2013 8:11:00 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: MrEdd

I know exactly what you mean. I lived in the UK for almost a decade. Socialism/Communism is certainly welcomed.


7 posted on 12/31/2013 8:11:28 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
My read?
Putin is a thug; always was; always will be. He IS a true son of Russia. He's on top because he's a bigger, smoother, meaner and smarter thug, that's all.
He happens to be on our side these days so we LIKE Mr. Thug Putin. We like smooth; it helps us forget the meaner part.
THINK what he had to be to get to the top of Thugville.
8 posted on 12/31/2013 8:11:43 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Daffynition
HAHAHAHA!!
Thanks! That was a GOOD laugh to end 2013!!
9 posted on 12/31/2013 8:12:20 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cunning_fish

You are certainly out of touch with reality if you think Russia is ready to live under Jefferson’s ideas right now too.
__________________________________________________________

Did I ever claim that?


10 posted on 12/31/2013 8:13:02 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

He’s doing what he’s supposed to do: He’s working to make Russia strong and to look after the interests of Russia and Russians. He really ought to give no consideration to what outsiders think of him. That’s what real leaders do.


11 posted on 12/31/2013 8:14:25 PM PST by Edward Teach
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I just finished watching that last night. Very good documentary on him.

Here’s another good one on his rise to power.

How Vladimir Putin came to power (full documentary) Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiZw1R8w-c


12 posted on 12/31/2013 8:20:42 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Edward Teach

Unfortunately, you are right but it does make a difference about how the US perceives him and how they react to his actions. To the US, he is a thug but to his country, he is an artful leader...so, to each their own... Leadership has many thorns...


13 posted on 12/31/2013 8:22:23 PM PST by Deagle
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Putin’s no communist.


14 posted on 12/31/2013 8:23:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Bashing Putin and naming him communist is all about that.
Putin is less communist than every democrat and half of “conservatives” in US Congress.
Empty criticism is a liberal sport. If one don’t like Bush, Putin etc he has to point what exactly was made wrong by said individuals and say, show or do it the proper way (if one is able which most liberals don’t).


15 posted on 12/31/2013 8:25:11 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
First out of the box is Nina Krucheva, Nikita's grand daughter and a bigger Communist, albeit Progressive Communist, than "we will bury you" was. Like the others, she is sore that she didn't have the Moxie to take control of Russia like Putin has.

Russian Progressives are pretty much the same as American Progressives, they're mad because Putin was mean to the Belsan School perpetrators terrorist groups and their supporters, plus he actually made the Chechen military hunt and kill Chechen terrorists.

16 posted on 12/31/2013 8:33:24 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cunning_fish

Happy New Year, fish! Already 2014 there isn’t it?


17 posted on 12/31/2013 8:40:36 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cunning_fish

Well said. The game played here is calling anyone you dislike a ‘Communist’, when there haven’t been true believer Communists in Russia in at least 30 years. The Communists, or if you like Marxist-Leninists are all at American Universities and in the media, and not only American, but everywhere that Communism has not been experienced. Marxism-Leninism is spent in Russia and in Eastern Europe, and has been for a long time. The ignorance and name calling when it comes to Putin is astounding. No, he isn’t a clone of Mr Rogers, and neither is he a Stalin, but as someone asked above, who else in Russia can lead the country? Where is their Thomas Jefferson?

In the meantime, a true believer in some secular version of Marxism-Leninism, that he’ll never call by its name, sits as we speak in the Western White Hut on the island of Oahu.


18 posted on 12/31/2013 8:47:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Nice to see you, Patriot! Yes, it is.


19 posted on 12/31/2013 8:59:26 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: varmintman
Putin is Russia's leader. He's done well for them, and probably better than any one else who was in play. He's not the best thing to ever happen to the US or EU. Then again, he doesn't work for us, he works for Russia. As a person, he is one of the more interesting political figures on the global stage.

I am intrigued by Russian politics, post-USSR. I'd like to see an analysis of the technical or theoretical rights and the practical rights afforded average people in Russia vs. the same in the US. I still here people my parents’ age saying, “What is this, Russia”. No, you can smoke in a bar in Russia, and they export all the natural gas they can dig up.

This isn't your grandpa's Russia. May not be our friend. But don't get mired in the Cold War past.

20 posted on 12/31/2013 9:13:42 PM PST by NYFriend
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To: NYFriend

One thing Putin has done for the United States is to provide us with an example of good government. If all you had to go on was our own last three presidents, you probably wouldn’t have any sort of an idea of what good government might look like.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 9:29:09 PM PST by varmintman
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To: cunning_fish

Especially when we can’t even live under Jefferson’s ideas.

The state DUMA has four main political parties.

United Russia - Putin’s party, and the dominant political force. Center right on economic issues, moving further right in some aspects, but heavily corrupted by oligarch interests and such. Socially pretty conservative, apparently now moving further right on abortion which has decimated the country’s demography. This is Russia’s bread and butter. The party of the common man, the middle-tier folk.

Communist Party of the Russian Federation - Is as its name implies. The corrupt holdovers of late-era communism, radicals, and oligarchs who Putin has alienated find a place here. Many poor individuals vote for them, and they are the second largest party.

A Just Russia - I think this is what many people refer to when they say ‘the Russian opposition’, although they aren’t as big as the commies. They’re socialists, as socially liberal as you’re likely to get in Russia (voted unanimously for the anti-homosexual propaganda bill, and one of their members was the author). This is the party of the student movement, and many cosmopolitan Russians. They favor a welfare state.

Political Party LDPR - Russia’s resident ‘far right’ group, although primarily just a nationalist outfit. The home of the thriving Russian skinhead movement. They want the Chechens deported, Imperial Russia restored, and they consider the West enemy no.1

Russian politics is completely alien to our own, so it is hard to get a handle on how it all works, but I’d agree there’s just not a better alternative to Putin there, at least not for Russians. The other parties would likely implode its relatively fragile economy.
The opposition is really in no position to take on Putin either. You have two ‘left wing’ parties, but together, they don’t even come close to half of the representatives in the DUMA, since you can’t count on the highly nationalist LDPR to vote with globalist left wingers. Its like an article I read on the Hungarian elections where they accused the ‘center-right’ president of not being legitimate because the opposition got almost as many votes, failing to mention that a huge chunk of that opposition was the even further right, Jobbik party.


22 posted on 12/31/2013 9:37:16 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Revolting cat!

No, communism is still very much a thing in Russia, it’s just not Putin. The Russian Communist Party has 92 seats in the DUMA, the second largest party.


23 posted on 12/31/2013 9:39:01 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: NYFriend

Which is exactly my view. Conservatives need to be more pragmatic when it comes to setting foot on the global stage, and I’ll be the first to put my hands up and say I have slimed Russia in the recent past with Soviet-accusations, but we need to be honest. The world is not a chess board of black and white, as it was in, say, the 1950s. It may become that way again, but right now we are dealing with countries often going through dramatic changes.

Take Assad for example. Assad and his family are cold-blooded, corrupt, murderous Giraffe-looking versions of Al Capone’s mob, but I could see from the start that they were far better than any alternative that the Syrians would vote into power.

The fact is that today, Britain and France are more communist than Russia. Just look at the 75% hate tax on high incomes under Hollande! We have the Rose Parade displaying two men spooning, while Russia has banned sodomic propaganda to minors. Which country seems to be under the thrall of Marx’ anti-family agenda more?

We are likely never going to have a friendly relationship with Russia. We desire to remain a world power, and they by virtue of their size alone, will always be a world power. That’s not a stage where you make friends. However looking back, it was dumb for Mitt Romney to say they are our ‘no.1 geopolitical foe’. China is higher up the list than Russia, and what about Iran?
On any issue, the more conservatism in the world the better, whether it is adopted by our allies or those we have more frosty relationships with. Putin is not a pure conservative by any stretch, but he has pushed conservative agendas through in Russia with more ease than Bush ever did during his tenure here. In the realm of partisan politics, I don’t think anyone would disagree we could learn a thing or two from a man who at the very least, is a skilled politician.


24 posted on 12/31/2013 9:53:36 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: varmintman

http://answersforthefaith.com/2013/08/08/putin-world-leaders-should-unite-to-end-christian-persecution/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRgWVAfHNZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhHqfMFLCI

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=10742

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ

While obumbs is conrolled by Soros - Putin issues an International arrestr warrent on hhi, Note that he refers to obabma as ‘alledged president’ - you can be he knows the trught - wish he would drop the dime...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpO3PArAoUQ

Russia’s great Cathedral, destroyed by the Communists, has been restored to glory - as well as hundreds of other cathedrals and churches in Russia

http://www.xxc.ru/english/complex/xxc/index.htm

One thing cannot be denied - Putin loves his country - would that we had a president that loved our country - and wasn’t intent on destroying it.


25 posted on 12/31/2013 9:57:06 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Viennacon

>>>No, communism is still very much a thing in Russia, it’s just not Putin. The Russian Communist Party has 92 seats in the DUMA, the second largest party.<<<

In fact you are overestimating. Average communist polls in Russia were about 10% and shrinking for a prolonged period of time since about 1996 when Clinton helped his pal Yeltsin in stealing elections for the commies.

It is not until the last elections when Russian communists got twice that much.

It has followed after tons of anti-Putin propaganda in Russian liberal media inspiring idiots into their version of hope and change dope and an “Occupy Moscow” event, paid by Soros and Freeedom House and celebrated by both Hillary and McCain.

I loved the lamestream media coverage of the event in late 2012 on how “the Russians are about to remove a tyrant” and McCain’s crap on “the end of neo-commie Putin”.

Both media and McCain failed to mention that both the crowd was about 10 times less numerous than reported and Lenin’s portraits and red banners carried by their anti-Putin protestors.


26 posted on 12/31/2013 10:04:27 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Viennacon

>>>elections for the commies.<<<=from the commies


27 posted on 12/31/2013 10:06:19 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Government (real and defacto) ownership of almost all broadcasting and industries is still true in Russia.


28 posted on 12/31/2013 10:06:21 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Vroomfondel

bflw


29 posted on 12/31/2013 10:11:36 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Vroomfondel

‘nother bflw


30 posted on 12/31/2013 10:12:41 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: cunning_fish

I know, the whole debacle last election about ‘Putin stole it!’ was ridiculous. The opposition never stood a chance in hell. McLame was just itching to have Leninists in Moscow again. I think Russia collectively laughed when he ranted in Pravda like a crazed loon recently.


31 posted on 12/31/2013 10:14:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

That’s practically true here. Where is that marriage chart linking the WH to pretty much every media organization. Also, remember the taped coordination in 2013 with the press planning to ambush Romney. “yeah, we can really get him with this! hehe”


32 posted on 12/31/2013 10:15:46 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

*2012


33 posted on 12/31/2013 10:16:03 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

In fact government owns about a quarter of total Russian economy, not all of that. 25% is still high but as Viennacon said you can’t judge them by American standards. Government also makes some 40% of total investmensts in Russia which is a sign of both higher government control of economy and a crony capitalism but we are talking about a civilization which classified private enterprise as a felony just 30 years ago.


34 posted on 12/31/2013 10:17:46 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cloudmountain

I have no doubt Yeltsin did similar to get to the top, and lets not bring up the Obama dead pool. Bill Gwatney, anyone? Putin , like 99% of global politicians is a thug, but he does have admirable qualities... something Obama lacks to the core.


35 posted on 12/31/2013 10:18:58 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: cunning_fish

A lot of those “private” companies are really under the thumb of the government too.


36 posted on 12/31/2013 10:26:18 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cunning_fish

Indeed. I didn’t know much about Russian economics, so I read an article this morning on it. Putin has hung the economy almost entirely on natural resources, sort of as a boiler plate, since its all they have. The gas lines keep the place running, but that wont last forever and a ‘monoculture’ economy is never a good idea. Like China, Russia is sitting on underlying problems it has to address, and for the ruskies the key issue is extremely slow growth. 1% to be exact. It’s strange because with the meltdown of Europe in 2008, you’d have thought they would have poached businesses from the EU, but too many are scared off by the blatant corruption and also the flaring ethnic tensions in the country.
These bombings in Volgograd are not going to have helped, and if Putin wants to start fixing Russia’s long term economic outlook, he really does need to follow through with his promise and annihilate the Chechen terrorist threat. If anything happens in Sochi, its not Russia’s political pride that will be most bruised, it will be its economic prospects.


37 posted on 12/31/2013 10:27:39 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

“Government (real and defacto) ownership of almost all broadcasting and industries is still true in Russia.”

Thank god for the American media that is free and fiercely independent of government domination. And thanks for a government that does not tap the phones of journalists or imprison them to force them to reveal sources./


38 posted on 12/31/2013 10:31:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Viennacon

If you are to look further, natural resources doesn’t make much larger share in Russian than it is in US economy. I might be mistaking but IMHO it is around 15% for either.
On the other hand, oil and gas industries are taxed heavier than other businesses, let alone individuals in Russia and that is why oil brings the most revenues for a government.


39 posted on 12/31/2013 10:39:24 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

But this seems fair, as the Russian government has been helping the gas industry build pipelines into neighboring countries and such. You can bet your bottom dollar something like Keystone would be a no-brainer for Putin.


40 posted on 12/31/2013 10:40:45 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: GeronL

Crony capitalism is a two-way road. Both businesses and officials has their benefits. You are getting a green light ahead the others and some of your mischiefs are overlooked so you have enourmous advantages but it is that makes you hooked.
It is the choice.
A lot of businesses are playing fair there, ignoring or exposing approaches of corrupt officials and doing just fine. Ask Ikea and Ford.
Russian corruption is overrated. I guess 9 in 10 cases of Russian corruption expierenced by American businesses were a game of con artists of their liberal “Russian expert” empoyees and partners pretending to know how “to solve problems” there. Most of these “corrupt officials” “bribed” this way could be very surprised if they knew.


41 posted on 12/31/2013 10:49:18 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Viennacon

Congrats! An excellent assessment of Russian politics today. `Wary respect’ is probably the closest the West will get to friendly relations with Moscow.


42 posted on 01/01/2014 4:25:20 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Viennacon
I have no doubt Yeltsin did similar to get to the top, and lets not bring up the Obama dead pool. Bill Gwatney, anyone? Putin , like 99% of global politicians is a thug, but he does have admirable qualities... something Obama lacks to the core.

All true.

43 posted on 01/01/2014 6:29:57 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; All

Thanks for posting. Started last year (night), finished this year (morning). A very interesting, informative, educational video and thread. Thanks to all posters. BTTT!

Happy New Year FReepers!


44 posted on 01/01/2014 6:32:03 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; All
Slightly off topic, I have been looking for a good biography of Putin to read for some time now. Every book review I've read shows the writer to be either pro-Putin or definitely anti-Putin. What I'd like to find is an unbiased account of his life from his early childhood on. Any suggestions? Thanks D-man
45 posted on 01/01/2014 6:54:56 AM PST by Dartman (CDN PM Stephen Harper may not be perfect, but we don't have to be ashamed or embarassed of him.)
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To: maine-iac7

Good collection of links there, thanks. This one has been obvious to me for some time now, hopefully more and more people will start to see it.


46 posted on 01/01/2014 9:14:15 AM PST by varmintman
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I am very interested in how he will deal with the terrorism that has struck Russia...very interested...and the rest of the world should be too,,,and they should take notes of his methods.


47 posted on 01/01/2014 12:49:12 PM PST by pallmallman (Q)
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To: varmintman

Putin has truly made a monkey out of obama...and I can’t be any happier.


48 posted on 01/01/2014 12:50:28 PM PST by pallmallman (Q)
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To: varmintman
Putin's not going to win good government awards from groups in the US (ACLU, PIRG, League of Women Voters). His government has been effective, if not open and democratic.

Russia has a corruption problem, throughout their government, the main difference being that in Russia there's day to day bribes and payoffs of low level officials (including police).

Apart from paying off a traffic cop, I'm curious whether regular people feel corruption, or the absence of ‘rule of law’ in Russia. It may drag on their economy, and it may do so more that our system of lawyers, lobbyists, bailouts and earmarks. Not sure, but I'd call it “close”, compared to say “everyone else who's not in China, South Korea, Europe or Canada”.

That said, Putin can put on a show. He's smooth, he's astute, he tough and smart. He couldn't fly over here, campaign, and win elections in the US, but if he started his career here instead of Russia, he'd be electable here.

Truth is like you say, on the international scene, Russia's playing the game of hard choices that we both played since the end of WWII. We'd like to think we can stop, and play the good the guy, and only hang out with other good guys. There's a lot of places were there are not good guys in a position to take over and maintain order. If you don't pick a “compromise” winner, you get who you get, and right now most of them don't like us. It's the tough game of global leadership.

For Russia, the stakes are too high to have scruples (if nothing else the stakes are “fade into obscurity or become a global player”, the stakes very well could become “live in daily fear of your neighbors, or rule the world”. For us, we don't feel it anymore. We crushed Germany and the Soviets. IBM still makes the best typewriters in the world, if we just back off, everyone will come to depend on us for manufacturing and research.

49 posted on 01/01/2014 6:17:55 PM PST by NYFriend
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To: Viennacon

Wish I had hung around on this thread yesterday, your stuff is excellent, and we need accurate info to properly analyze Russian and Eastern European events. Kudos.


50 posted on 01/02/2014 7:08:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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