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'I can't be sure God does not exist' Richard Dawkins admits he is in fact agnostic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105834/Career-atheist-Richard-Dawkins-admits-fact-agnostic. ^ | 24 February 2012 | By Suzannah Hills

Posted on 01/04/2014 5:24:40 PM PST by dennisw

Professor Richard Dawkins dismissed his hard-earned reputation as a militant atheist - admitting that he is actually agnostic as he can't prove God doesn't exist.

The country's foremost champion of Darwinist evolution stunned audience members when he made the confession during a lively debate on the origins of the universe with the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Professor Dawkins is a dedicated admirer of Charles Darwin, regarding the Victorian pioneer of evolution as the man who explained ‘everything we know about life’.

But when Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams suggested that Professor Darwin is often described as the world's most famous atheist, the geneticist responded: 'Not by me'.

He said: 'On a scale of seven, where one means I know he exists, and seven I know he doesn't, I call myself a six.'

Professor Dawkins went on to say he believed was a '6.9', stating: 'That doesn't mean I'm absolutely confident, that I absolutely know, because I don't.'

The two men were debating whether Biblical writers 'got it wrong' by not saying that the universe is billions of years old.

The Archbishop said: 'The writers of the Bible, inspired as I believe they were, were not inspired to do 21st century physics, they were inspired to pass on to their readers what God wanted them to know.

'In the first book of the Bible is the basic information - the universe depends on God, humanity has a very distinctive role in that universe , and humanity has made rather a mess of it.'

This latest admission by Professor Dawkins comes after he was left lost for words name the full title of his scientific hero’s most famous work during a radio discussion last week when accused Christians of being ignorant of the Bible.

In his frustration, he resorted to a helpless: ‘Oh God.’

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KEYWORDS: agnostic; atheist; dawkins; richarddawkins
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1 posted on 01/04/2014 5:24:40 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

I saw the results of a study a few years ago: 23% of atheists believe in God.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 5:30:46 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: dennisw
Not sure about Darwin...but am sure about Yehoshua.
3 posted on 01/04/2014 5:31:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: vladimir998

Sorry, 21%: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/23/new-pew-survey-21-of-atheists-believe-in-god/


4 posted on 01/04/2014 5:31:28 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: dennisw

Moving from atheism to agnosticism is a big step forward


5 posted on 01/04/2014 5:31:56 PM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: dennisw

Everyone believes in God.

It’s just that a lot of people are very, very angry at Him.


6 posted on 01/04/2014 5:33:29 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dennisw

In his frustration, he resorted to a helpless: ‘Oh God.

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Funny.


7 posted on 01/04/2014 5:33:58 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americaa)
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To: vladimir998

“Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom”

Correct interpretation__________ Don’t violate God’s laws. You will suffer thus learning from this and this is when you start getting smart.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 5:35:02 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

“On a scale of 1-7...” LOLOL!!


9 posted on 01/04/2014 5:37:06 PM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: dennisw
dawkins is still enraged abut the "mild" chid sexual abuse he suffered...

dawkins story here
10 posted on 01/04/2014 5:42:02 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: dennisw

Athiests can’t prove there is no God, they have to take it on faith.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 5:42:52 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: dennisw

“In his frustration, he resorted to a helpless: ‘Oh God.’”

Now that is an irony for the books.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 5:43:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: dennisw

Dawkins admits he doesn’t know God does not exist only to further his argument that God does not exist..

Only a fool is fooled by this gambit..


13 posted on 01/04/2014 5:44:16 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: dennisw
Can't stand this guy. He may be smart but he also appears to be a p****.

All his life it's been there is no God...now all of a sudden...gimme a break...looking for publicity.

14 posted on 01/04/2014 5:44:37 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: dennisw

Better figure that one out rather quickly Dawkins.

John 3:17-18


15 posted on 01/04/2014 5:45:24 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: dennisw

Oh brilliant Richard....Read Kant’s “The Critique of Pure Reason” again.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 5:46:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: dennisw

It is impossible to disprove the existence of God. The only way you could do it is if you were omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, so that you could be absolutely sure that there isn’t a greater being out there able to hide their presence from you.

Problem is, if you had those powers, you yourself would be God, and it would be a self-contradiction at that point to try and disprove your own existence.


17 posted on 01/04/2014 5:51:16 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Yo-Yo

Athiests can’t prove there is no God, they have to take it on faith.>>>>>>>>>>>>

correct!!!


18 posted on 01/04/2014 5:52:30 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Talisker

It’s whether the person is saying “There is no God”*, I simply can not logically fathom it”, or is shaking his fist towards heaven shouting “NO, GOD!”.

*Psalms 14:1 The fool says in his heart “There is no God”.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 5:53:10 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: faithhopecharity

“Moving from atheism to agnosticism is a big step forward”

Suzanne - Leonard Cohen (Second stanza)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXC_dhQHzY

“And Jesus was a sailor
When he walked upon the water
And he spent a long time watching
From his lonely wooden tower
And when he knew for certain
Only drowning men could see him
He said “All men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free them”
But he himself was broken
Long before the sky would open
Forsaken, almost human
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone
And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you’ll trust him”

Pray for Dawkins.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 5:53:11 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: BwanaNdege

“Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him.” Hebrews 11:6


21 posted on 01/04/2014 5:55:20 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: dennisw
I've always said atheists are being hypocritical to the extent in which they claim there is no God.

You can never prove that something doesn't exist.

Saying that God doesn't exist is as empirically impossible to substaniate as is the belief that God does exist. In either case it requires the scientific validation of something wholly beyond the realm of science.

22 posted on 01/04/2014 5:56:54 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: dennisw

You don’t have to be confident God doesn’t exist to be an atheist, you just have to be confident you’re not going to worship Him any time soon.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 5:59:58 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: dennisw

Dawkins, you can’t prove a negative, nor are you required to.

A man on trial doesn’t have to prove he didn’t commit the crime he’s accused of(how do you do that anyway). The prosecutor has to prove he did.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 6:01:16 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Yo-Yo

You can’t prove a negative. But you can decide it’s good enough.


25 posted on 01/04/2014 6:01:22 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Yo-Yo

>>Athiests can’t prove there is no God, they have to take it on faith.<<

That is pretty accurate. I think every atheist is in fact agnostic. Of course, the obnoxious a-holes are, as noted above, one who not only believe in God but are angry at Him.


26 posted on 01/04/2014 6:03:54 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: onedoug

ping


27 posted on 01/04/2014 6:06:38 PM PST by windcliff
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To: faithhopecharity
Moving from atheism to agnosticism is a big step forward

It took Dawkins years to make that big step ... for a person of normal intelligence, it takes 5 minutes of cogent thinking.

There are no true atheists, only agnostics.

28 posted on 01/04/2014 6:15:42 PM PST by dartuser
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To: dennisw

Progress.


29 posted on 01/04/2014 6:17:14 PM PST by firebrand
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To: dennisw

Why in the world do Christians care so much about atheists?


30 posted on 01/04/2014 6:17:17 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: dartuser

yes, atheism has never seemed a viable position to me

agnosticism makes sense as it means the person is open to discussion and may even be searching for better answers

there may be atheists but there are surely very few atheists in foxholes ....

http://www.christianpost.com/news/air-force-republishes-chaplains-no-atheists-in-foxholes-article-to-base-website-102226/


31 posted on 01/04/2014 6:23:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: Standing Wolf

“Why in the world do Christians care so much about atheists?”
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A very dangerous question, so dangerous that even one such as I will leave it untouched.


32 posted on 01/04/2014 6:25:05 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: lbryce

Not really. One doesn’t have to prove anything to believe in God or not believe in God. Atheists believe God doesn’t exist and are thus atheists. Christians can’t prove God exists. They believe it through faith. No proof required.


33 posted on 01/04/2014 6:26:04 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Fred Hayek

Yep. And atheists even have their own special annual day; April First, April Fools Day.


34 posted on 01/04/2014 6:33:49 PM PST by Tucker39 ("Having their conscience seared with a hot iron.")
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To: vladimir998
I think all atheist lie to themselves. They cannot prove nor disapprove in a creator. So to say there is no God is a choice and not a good one...an agnostic is more honest with himself. He says I don't know if there is or is not a God since I can prove neither but does leave way for there to be a God. He just finds no proof. Scripture says if one says in their heart is no god, he is a fool. But I don't think I remember any thing said of an agnostic...they leave room in there belief system that there might be, just that he has no proof...If an atheist really believed there is no God,he would not have to argue with anyone. He is sure and states so, so why would they argue. If you ask an athiest if they believe the earth has always existed as it does today, if they say ..yes..they are a fool as as far as our sciencetist know, gravity caused the earth to form X amount of millenium ago. If they believe it was caused by a big bang, they have no answer as to who or what caused the bang. They are really no fun to have a discussion with, they are what my dad would call, a know it all, and as such, has no room to learn. They in their arrogance know everything that there is to know.

An agnostic is open to the possiblility of God, just doesn't know...A good discussion can be had with them...not saying you could convince them, but at least they would be fine in a discussion...jmho.

Years ago, when our kids were small, we camped a lot. Up in the mountains, with a clear night, looking up in the heavens one cannot help but believe in a Creator. Its awesome to look at, just as truly looking at a beautiful flower. Misquitos suck...

35 posted on 01/04/2014 6:38:46 PM PST by goat granny
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

Mathematics and DNA embedding are among the many things that persuade me God is real.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 6:39:44 PM PST by onedoug
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To: dennisw

It a move in the drirection of intellectual honesty. .to say you know for sure God does not exist is an act of faith


37 posted on 01/04/2014 6:43:01 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: dennisw

God exists- Sometimes He wears a Habit

Obama Versus the Nuns: Threatening to Take Away Their Religious Freedom


38 posted on 01/04/2014 6:46:33 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: dennisw

“Those who do not believe in God think of Him more earnestly than those who do.”

... who said it? I dunno.


39 posted on 01/04/2014 6:48:07 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dennisw

I guess he still hasn’t gotten past that whole ‘How the Universe was Created’ bit.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 6:49:21 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: dennisw

Oh, please. The burden of proof is on those claiming existence of God.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 6:51:19 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dennisw

He’ll know about one second after he dies.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 7:01:10 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: goat granny
An agnostic is open to the possiblility of God, just doesn't know...

According to "Webster's Seventh Tattered", agnostic means, "of or relating to the belief that the existence of any ultimate reality ( as God ) is unknown and probably unknowable." This seems to be a much firmer point of view than mere indecision.

Now, in Webster's Eleventh Collegiate, this is repeated, except it adds, with the qualification broadly ( italics in orig,) "one who is not commited to believing in the existence or nonexistence of God or a god". Love that "God or a god" ... sounds like Gog and Magog ! ... well, they are just acceding to the popular usage here, as they have, since the 1960's at least, counted themselves as recorders and not dictators of usage.

43 posted on 01/04/2014 7:09:03 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: goat granny

“Misquitos suck...”

Literally and figuratively.


44 posted on 01/04/2014 7:12:41 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Therefore, they're not atheists. By definition, you can't have any religion and be an "atheist". That makes about as much sense as a "vegan" who wears a leather jacket.

Not saying there aren't stupid-a** people who call themselves atheists and Christians at the same time...I'm sure there are, as Generation.com has a collective IQ of room temperature.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

45 posted on 01/04/2014 7:35:14 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: wku man

“Therefore, they’re not atheists.”

Exactly. I think atheists are usually irrational. They tend not to make sense.


46 posted on 01/04/2014 7:40:27 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Fred Hayek

Psalms 14:1 The fool says in his heart “There is no God”.

This is one of my favorite verses. The most important question anyone can ever ask him or herself is one Jesus asked Peter, “Who do you say that I am?”

Jesus claimed to be the only way to the Father. You must believe He died for your sins to be removed to go to heaven. If I’m wrong, I’ll just die and rot in the grave.

But, if you’re wrong and you ignore His offer, you’ll spend eternity in hell, just as He said. Therefore, only as fool would rely on his intellect to decide if God is real. Just as Dawkins isn’t sure, no one, no matter how brilliant, can be.

So…ask Him. If He’s real, He’ll answer.


47 posted on 01/04/2014 7:49:00 PM PST by ShasheMac
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To: dennisw

I understand where Dawkins is coming from, as a former atheist myself. Atheism is an emotional conclusion, whereas agnosticism is an honest intellectual position. At least that’s how it was for me at one time.


48 posted on 01/04/2014 7:50:58 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: dennisw

Agnostic atheist: I don’t believe there’s a god but can’t prove it.
Agnostic theist: I believe there’s a god but can’t prove it.


49 posted on 01/04/2014 8:44:46 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: dennisw

He must have a new book coming out.


50 posted on 01/04/2014 8:51:35 PM PST by warchild9
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