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Is Microsoft Corporation Developing a New Operating System?
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Posted on 01/04/2014 8:48:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Reportedly, Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) will soon be introducing a brand new computer programming language. This programming language, in turn, would be used to develop an operating system called “Midori” whose operations will not be similar to Windows in any way.

The new programming language is code-named “M#” as per reports and is an extension of C#. Midori represents a highly-dependable operating system in which the kernel, device drivers, and applications are all written in managed codes.

Managed code is a term coined by Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) to identify computer program source code that will execute only under the management of a Common Language Runtime virtual machine.

Midori is not compatible with the Windows apps that are already out on the market. However, it is likely that certain features of Midori could well be integrated into the next version of Windows, namely Windows 9.

Midori is reportedly designed to cater to the need for writing apps for cloud computing. However, Midori is not the only language to cater to cloud-computing. Google Inc (NASDAQ:GOOG) too created a new programming language called Golang (or Go) to develop apps for the cloud. Golang has proved to be an improved substitute for Oracle Corporation (NYSE:ORCL)’s Java and Microsoft’s very own language .Net.

Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) is aiming to gain market share in cloud computing through its Azure cloud service. In this regard, we believe that a dedicated cloud operating system will boost Microsoft’s competitive position against the likes of Amazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN).

However, the focus now remains on the growth trajectory of Windows 8. The company is still persuading developers to write more apps for Windows 8, which has failed to impress due to lack of user-friendly nature and has nothing new to offer.

In such a scenario, we believe that it is very unlikely for Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) to launch a full-fledged non-Windows operating system anytime in the near future.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; midori; operatingsystem; os
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1 posted on 01/04/2014 8:48:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If one does not hold the data, one does not own the data.

There are many industries where cloud computing is contemplated in the same stream of thought as seppuku.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 8:52:38 PM PST by MortMan ("Choice" is properly exercised the night before, not the morning after.)
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To: SeekAndFind
computer program source code that will execute only under the management of a Common Language Runtime virtual machine. = the Great Controlling Unknown...
3 posted on 01/04/2014 8:55:29 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SeekAndFind

And an 8th grader wrote this blustery and breath taking story!


4 posted on 01/04/2014 8:55:48 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind

Odd choice of names, since there is a Midori browser for Linux.


5 posted on 01/04/2014 8:57:41 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MortMan

Good observation. Cloudness might be able to get you more crunch power, but you may not want your data to just be in cloud and that’s it.


6 posted on 01/04/2014 9:03:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: MortMan

bump

anyway, it will be interesting to see what this is


7 posted on 01/04/2014 9:06:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Chode; ShadowAce

Big Brother OS?


8 posted on 01/04/2014 9:06:41 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Chode

That does seem to be a frequent Microsoft aspiration — to Own It All. A benevolent dictator from their viewpoint perhaps, but an annoying, selfish one from ours.


9 posted on 01/04/2014 9:08:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: bigbob
This isn't new news, folks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28operating_system%29

> Odd choice of names, since there is a Midori browser for Linux.

Do you think Microsoft cares? LOL.

Microsoft doesn't give a rat's rear end for other people's names, trademarks, etc. There was already a software company with a product named "Vista" when MS came out with that disaster of an OS, MS just stepped all over the existing outfit, and then the total failure of MS's Vista crushed the usefulness of the smaller company's product name.

"Midori" means "Green" in Japanese, and is in use for LOTS of things. There won't be any challenge to MS on that.

10 posted on 01/04/2014 9:10:05 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t understand this push to put everything in the cloud. It might make sense for some but a terabyte is relatively cheap and would cover most users for a lifetime. If you put it on the cloud you have no idea who might be rifling through it.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 9:11:49 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: MortMan

However... the idea of farming out your data processing is not new. When computers were big and expensive and time sharing was first the rage, people often had their vital stuff living on leased equipment on other premises, accessed through dial-up. Cloud might or might not be that generalized. If you knew where your piece of cloud was guaranteed to be, that might help your confidence level.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 9:12:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

MS is in major trouble and a new OS isn’t going to make it better.
Rumors say there is going to be a shakeup at 2014 CES by companies tired of cleaning up MS messes.


13 posted on 01/04/2014 9:13:02 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Cloud is an abstraction, and many people probably would feel better knowing where their piece of cloud actually was. Cloud may be quite good for things that don’t need to be spyproof, if you can reconstruct your data easily and if you can keep secure copies of what matters.


14 posted on 01/04/2014 9:14:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Zathras

A lot of MS popularity is image and legacy inertia.

If Linux could step up tomorrow and offer businesses the ability to painlessly jack up their front ends and change out the MS engines for Linux... a lot would probably do it.


15 posted on 01/04/2014 9:15:35 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

The new XBox One and PS4 will do a lot of the processing in the cloud. There will be games where what you see will be done online. “Destiny” for instance.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 9:16:18 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; martin_fierro; ShadowAce; Swordmaker

Thanks SeekAndFind.


17 posted on 01/04/2014 9:17:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: GeronL
wouldn't surprise me one bit... or even a byte
18 posted on 01/04/2014 9:18:21 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Accessibility across multiple user devices in a timely manner seems to me to be the only advantage. Sensitive or otherwise important documents should not be entrusted to a third party, however there are those documents that do not rise to that level, that need to be readily and quickly available on whatever device you’re using at a given time.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 9:18:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: GeronL

And who is going to care whether someone is spying on their game :-)


20 posted on 01/04/2014 9:19:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Chode

BBOS!


21 posted on 01/04/2014 9:19:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck


22 posted on 01/04/2014 9:20:17 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Tell me about it.

Even the mighty Linux has had to pay the Dane tax to Redmond. Otherwise you can’t put Linux up on those new fangled 64 bit AMD PCs.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 9:21:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

lol


24 posted on 01/04/2014 9:21:45 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

As private people get excess CPU power, maybe they might consider signing up to be Part Of The Cloud. Kind of like what zombie nets do, except this time it’s voluntary and (hopefully) on the up and up.

We’d need some kind of legal protection, of course, in case your piece of cloud happened to be where some pervert put kiddie porn.


25 posted on 01/04/2014 9:24:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s worse that that. Knowing where your piece of cloud is “guaranteed” to be may held you sleep - but won’t help in a generalized sweep of the cloud data.

If the data is hosted locally - in at least a semi-secure manner - then anyone looking for the data has to seek out your computer/network.

Putting everything “out there” in the cloud makes it easier for data thieves.

Businesses who hold data from multiple Intellectual Property owners are not smart to put that data in the hands of others.


26 posted on 01/04/2014 9:26:56 PM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: bigbob

Thanks for tip on Midori.

I am a long time user of XFCE on 2 different platforms. Love it. Love the simplicity and speed.

Have used Firefox since it began. Used several other open source browsers before that.

I would hate to give up the access to all the plug-ins.

But will look at it.

Thinking about reloading from scratch my Xubuntu install on this machine. And suggestions on the OS? Have looked at Mint, not sure on that.


27 posted on 01/04/2014 9:28:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: MortMan

These are useful concerns. I’m thinking of where the concept of cloud might go. Some kind of Internet tied rent-a-resource where you can choose just how tight or loose you want your security to be, with prices to match.


28 posted on 01/04/2014 9:30:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

In other words - Rent a garage, where the building owner “promises” he won’t let anyone into your stuff.

I do not trust handing over all of my own and my clients’ data to a third party.

It is a liability nightmare.

If my computer is hacked, then someone has made the effort to (first) identify it and (second) infiltrate it.

If the cloud is hacked, someone may well have simply infiltrated it - unless someone on the inside of the cloud gave them access.

In any event, I am held equally liable. I’d rather trust my own decision making.


29 posted on 01/04/2014 9:40:56 PM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: MortMan

Such things as you sound like you are using as an example of ridicule actually DO exist today; we call them rental storage lockers.

I probably would not want to keep the inventory of a jewelry store in there, but not everybody’s needs rise to that level.


30 posted on 01/04/2014 9:43:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: MortMan

Yup, who ever holds the data owns the data. If that cloud company needs cash, guess who will want to sell your data.


31 posted on 01/04/2014 9:52:42 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I probably would not want to keep the inventory of a jewelry store in there, but not everybody’s needs rise to that level.

I understand your point. However, businesses have data they need to keep secure. Big businesses use their own servers to store it, much like they use their own warehouses to hold and ship their product.

Small businesses, when confronted with the need to hold other business' data, face the risk of being sued if the data is breached. In a business like mine, I have multiple clients who would ALL sue if their data was breached. Therefore, I have to be very careful not to cross-infect, as well as to ensure that their data is held very closely - as secure as I can - in order to avoid liability.

Microsoft, if they pursue this course, will end up locking themselves out of the more stable (and less fickle) business computing market. Pursuit of an ever-moving target (being consumer computing preference) will make their operating system obsolete.

I really need to start investigating Linus, I think.

32 posted on 01/04/2014 9:52:46 PM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: MortMan

I’ve seen this before where some of Microsoft’s “possession” moves ended up engendering a backlash, and they eased up.

I think you sound like you’re well within the “seppuku” set. Rent-a-resource makes no sense for your kind of operation. And it might not even for the customers you know. But there could be a price and value point where some more prosaic operation like a grocery or building contractor would like the securable cloud approach. Liability issues if any would be met through insurance policies tied to the rentals — it isn’t rocket science here with IT being a mature industry now.


33 posted on 01/04/2014 10:05:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Chode

You cannot use my “Bingo!”


34 posted on 01/04/2014 10:06:51 PM PST by Fungi
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To: SeekAndFind

This is like a Tire company re-inventing the wheel for each new tire they make....

Why not work to optimize the current code and maybe reduce it’s memory footprint, maybe code a few things in assembly....


35 posted on 01/04/2014 10:16:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: bigbob

It’s a code name; it would get a new name when released to the public.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 10:28:06 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Fungi


37 posted on 01/04/2014 10:35:33 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Liability issues if any would be met through insurance policies tied to the rentals — it isn’t rocket science here with IT being a mature industry now.

So I would have to pay X to counter Microsoft's BS in hosting everything in the ether...

I wonder if the NSA, or its chinese equivalent, consider that IT is a mature industry?

Sorry - I hold my own gold in my own safe. In this case, the gold is IP. Why should I be forced to trust someone else to hold my gold for me? At my expense. And at my additional expense for the insurance.

38 posted on 01/04/2014 10:37:53 PM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If Linux could step up tomorrow and offer businesses the ability to painlessly jack up their front ends and change out the MS engines for Linux... a lot would probably do it.

What's really funny about that, is that not even microsoft can make changes from one version of their programs to the next painless. Companies spend millons to keep up wth the constantly changing target that is microsoft. Fortunately for microsoft, there are always MSCEs (Must Consult Someone Experienced) who are more than willing to push whatever line of virus ridden crap microsoft is pushing at the time.

39 posted on 01/04/2014 10:50:48 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: MortMan

Don’t let your own parochial situation blind you to profitable generalities. If all the would be inventors of the world thought like you did, making themselves the measure of all things, they wouldn’t be inventing nearly as much.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 10:51:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Zathras

you have to wonder how much money companies worldwide have spent getting microsoft stuff to work properly the last 25 years. trillions, probably.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 10:53:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I have to learn a new operationg system, seems like Linux would be a better choice.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 11:01:02 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: SeekAndFind

C# is managed type-safe code that precludes most of more serious problems that come with non-managed code. Java is also type-safe although not to the extent C# is.

Bottom line, any code, even managed type-safe code is only as safe as the knowledge and application development skills of the persons developing the code. This applies across the board to all languages.


43 posted on 01/04/2014 11:45:58 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SeekAndFind
This programming language, in turn, would be used to develop an operating system ... whose operations will not be similar to Windows in any way.

OK, I'll take a guess: it is either a ChiCom Linux variant because we have a contract still with them thanks to BJ clintoon and what he owes for his 'campaign contributions', or an Iranian or Saudi muzzie open-source OS because O'butt_ears still needs to bow to the saudi king a few more times before they will accept that we really do not mean to make them keep on thinking that the USA is better than anyone else in the world -because that would be racist!

44 posted on 01/05/2014 12:19:04 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

45 posted on 01/05/2014 5:31:17 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Chode

Windows 9, here it comes!


46 posted on 01/05/2014 5:34:58 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I’m not sure, but I believe that there are plenty of organizations that are enamored with cloud computing(NSA, IRS, EPA...).


47 posted on 01/05/2014 5:49:21 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: clearcarbon
If I have to learn a new operationg system, seems like Linux would be a better choice.

I've dabbled in Linux for a few years now but I'm making a real push now. I had been using Ubuntu but, as I understand, it has some security issues. I use Debian, Mint (which is Ubuntu based but I think without the leaky parts) and Fedora.

Windows 7 is the last MS stop for me.

48 posted on 01/05/2014 5:53:21 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: SeekAndFind

“Midori”? I KNEW those Microsofties were watermelons!


49 posted on 01/05/2014 6:01:50 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Windows 7 is the last MS stop for me

I'm about to that point as well .. just wish there weren't 148,000 flavors for the relatively uninitiated to have to wade through.

If egos (or whatever) could be set aside and some standardization made a priority, one or a few flavors of Linux could probably kick MS's corporate ass.


an aging boy can dream ..

50 posted on 01/05/2014 6:02:04 AM PST by tomkat (lol)
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