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Woman killed in violent pit bull mauling, two others injured
click2Houston ^ | 1/5/14 | Ryan Jones

Posted on 01/05/2014 12:44:26 PM PST by eastforker

A pack of pit bulls attacked and killed one woman and injured two other people in southeast Houston, according to HPD.

Police said the group was near the intersection of Leonora and Glen Prairie when three pit bulls attacked them at around 2 a.m. on Sunday

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: doggieping; houston; maul; pitbull; pitbulls
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It has to be a terrible way to die.
1 posted on 01/05/2014 12:44:26 PM PST by eastforker
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To: eastforker

Another good reason to carry a firearm.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 12:47:11 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: eastforker

Link no workee.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 12:48:56 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: savedbygrace

http://www.click2houston.com/news/woman-killed-in-violent-pit-bull-mauling-two-injured/-/1735978/23779518/-/wntfilz/-/index.html


4 posted on 01/05/2014 12:50:39 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: savedbygrace

Sorry bout that.


5 posted on 01/05/2014 12:51:02 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker
three pit bulls attacked them at around 2 a.m. on Sunday

Nothing good happens at 2am. I hope they find the owners of these pitt's.

6 posted on 01/05/2014 12:51:44 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: eastforker

Pit bull owners are a lot like drunk drivers, except that ... Hmmmm ....

Well, actually, there is no difference.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 12:53:11 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: eastforker

Seems to me the Pit Bull Maulings have picked up steam in the last year. Either that, or bad news travels faster much faster than good news. Could some of these dogs be of a similar strain of Pit Bull that is somewhat new to the united states? Not all the Pits are this way, but its unfortunately common for owners of this breed to be careless and negligent, allowing the dogs to wander then cluster into packs. Maybe this breed should mean the owner has to undergo training to make sure they know what kinds of fences work, what kinds of collars or leashes work, what kinds of discipline work or don’t work. This is like buying an unloaded gun that will eventually be fully automatic. Is the owner ready?


8 posted on 01/05/2014 12:54:30 PM PST by lee martell
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To: eastforker

The old (black) lady next door to me lets her grandson breed and raise pits in chicken-wire coops in her backyard. I’m sure they’re fighting dogs, because they get sold and go away at a certain point, and these dogs have no human contact. He comes in once in a while and takes the puppies away and throws a bag of straw and droppings out for the city to take away (the place stinks).

If that old lady ever falls down within range when she totters out there, she’ll be fodder.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 12:55:59 PM PST by livius
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To: mosaicwolf

Or at least a sharp knife to cut the hamstring.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 12:58:31 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: mosaicwolf

Very cleverly stated. I’m inclined to believe, and certainly I may be totally off base about it, that you are not a defender of pit bulls as the sweet, docile pets they are and are the vicious killers they occasionally demonstrate themselves to be due to their owners’ discretion. So instead of calling out the breed and inviting harangues of all kinds you opted out by touting the safety that a gun provides. Again, it’s merely conjecture and am probably wrong, wrong wrong, way off base.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 1:04:28 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: livius

I’ve been watching an Italian detective show. One epi, year forgotten, managed to work a charity providing assistant dogs into a mystery involving drugs, tax evasion, murder, and of course, dog fighting.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 1:05:47 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: mosaicwolf

Another good reason to carry a firearm.


Feral animals (2 or 4 legged) are targets of opportunity and decent practice....


13 posted on 01/05/2014 1:13:07 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?....... Enforce the Bill of Rights................................ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: eastforker
Another warm, fuzzy, cuddly-wuddly breed-of-peace precious pooch story about the usual suspects. 'Cause you know any dog is just one bad hair day away from becoming a piranha of the pet world!


14 posted on 01/05/2014 1:13:36 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: livius

Never mind the old lady, what about you? Doesn’t it scare you to think a dog might get out someday?


15 posted on 01/05/2014 1:21:32 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: eastforker

Pittbulls don’t kill people, their irresponsible owners do.


16 posted on 01/05/2014 1:47:32 PM PST by sagar
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To: sagar

Not always true. A dog, unlike a gun, can and will act on impulse from time to time, no matter their training and that is especially true in the terrier breeds, , and more apt to do so when in a pack environment.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 1:58:46 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker
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18 posted on 01/05/2014 1:58:47 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Ezekiel

real cute slippers.....:O)


19 posted on 01/05/2014 2:27:01 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Slings and Arrows

What is it about reports of bloody maulings and gory, hideous killings by pit bulls that brings out the jokes in pit bull lovers? I mean, I was in a fun mood until I read about a woman ripped apart by dogs (pit bulls) and then I was in a somber mood. You? You’re different. Is that joke picture your way of celebrating the latest pit bull kill?


20 posted on 01/05/2014 3:03:20 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: CaptainK

It sure does. I don’t have a gun, but I always have a plan for what I would do if one of these things breaks out of its cage and gets over the fence.

The city gets complaints about these dogs all the time (they bark a lot) but the city is scared because it’s an historically black neighborhood, even though probably very few blacks live there now.

But if it’s a complaint about a black person’s property, the city is super-careful. They come, they look over the fence (from a side where you can’t see anything) and they go away. The old lady is obviously tipped off by somebody in the city office, because she’s never there when the city inspectors arrive, and they told me they can’t enter the property if she’s not there.

I bet this is not an infrequent situation. The old lady may be a little scared of her grandson, who is about 40 years old and actually a nice guy, except really clueless because he spent the last 15 years “away,” meaning in prison, and just got out about 2 years ago. I think if the city came and gave him a big warning, he’d move the dogs or get out of the dogfighting business (he’s going to auto mechanics school) but the problem is that the city won’t do anything and apparently if you complain, the city gives your name to the object of the complaint. That’s why the neighbors, either black or white, are afraid to complain.


21 posted on 01/05/2014 3:12:37 PM PST by livius
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To: ransomnote
I think it their way of trying to say, "no it really didn't happen and if it did it just doesn't count."

It is time to pass laws that will hold pit bull owners criminally responsible for any and all damage their dogs do just as if they have intentionally done it themselves.

22 posted on 01/05/2014 3:13:45 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: eastforker

TY


23 posted on 01/05/2014 3:27:27 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: oldenuff2no

I read of some criminal charges applied to owners of pit bulls recently. MORE! MORE! I recently watched that old video of a woman warning an animal control officer that she was about to let her pit bull out and if the woman (officer) didn’t want to “get bit” she better leave. Then after someone used a baseball bat to stop the pit bull from hanging off the flesh of the officer, the owner began to cry “OH I Don’T WANT TO GO TO JAIL! PLEASE! I DON’T WANT TO GO TO JAIL! BOOOO HOOOO!!!”

TRuly - criminal charges must be the only thing pit owners care about. Note that in this particular case, the dogs are believed to be feral. I bet there’s at least one “he got out” pit bull in there but otherwise, these are pits that started off real cute and steadily became agressive once they got to the 14 to 16 month mark and so, responsible people that they are, the owners just let the dogs go or when the dogs “got out” just never went after them. Yup....just leave them to feed on the population......


24 posted on 01/05/2014 3:39:39 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote
This is what puts me in a somber mood...


25 posted on 01/05/2014 3:43:31 PM PST by kanawa
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To: eastforker

Desperation move, but if you are not the one being attacked and/or don’t have a firearm, this is about all that’s left.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e54_1347639874


26 posted on 01/05/2014 4:31:27 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Ezekiel
Yeah man, I hear yeah. These fuzzballs can turn on you at any time.

Mine had his 1st birthday today, he's just a ticking time bomb.


27 posted on 01/05/2014 4:35:20 PM PST by Malsua
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To: lee martell

it’s nothing like buying a gun that might go fully auto. A gun won’t turn on you by itself. It needs mechanical energy to operate. A pit bull can turn just like that.

Friends of the family had one and it was a great dog til after a few years it decided to go after and kill the goat, then it decided to go after one of the daughters. She was able to run into the house unscathed, but the dog was put down.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 4:58:40 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: sagar

I disagree, I’ve seen it too many times, loving homes and all that, dog still turned.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 5:00:25 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Malsua
Which one is more likely to initiate a confrontation...


30 posted on 01/05/2014 5:10:22 PM PST by kanawa
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To: ransomnote
Then after someone used a baseball bat to stop the pit bull from hanging off the flesh of the officer, the owner began to cry “OH I Don’T WANT TO GO TO JAIL! PLEASE! I DON’T WANT TO GO TO JAIL! BOOOO HOOOO!!!”

Funny, that's not the way I recall it. Link plz.

31 posted on 01/05/2014 5:13:15 PM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa
Which one is more likely to initiate a confrontation...

The white one.

32 posted on 01/05/2014 5:16:47 PM PST by Malsua
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To: kanawa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBSUSF0qBJ8


33 posted on 01/05/2014 5:17:00 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: eastforker

The common link is ‘control’.
You leave your gun unlocked and accessible to others,
you are an irresponsible owner.
You let your dogs roam loose, like the dogs in this story,
you are an irresponsible owner.


34 posted on 01/05/2014 5:17:46 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Malsua

Correct.


35 posted on 01/05/2014 5:19:43 PM PST by kanawa
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To: ransomnote

Ahh, I see you’re referring to the stick as a baseball bat.


36 posted on 01/05/2014 5:25:27 PM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa

In that we are in agreement.And I also know the history on your animals. I also know that sometimes animals get loose. And I did not post this story to be anti pitbull.All big breeds are capable of doing great harm but you know as well as I do, some breeds are more inclined to be involved in human attacks then others. A lab or even a chow might bite but when a pitbull attacks,many times it will go in for the kill, and they are capable of doing just that, just sayin.


37 posted on 01/05/2014 5:27:45 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: kanawa

This breed is responsible for killing their own owners or other family members at unacceptable rates, especially compared with other breeds. It is necessary to “control” these animals by never exposing yourself or your family members to them, let alone the neighbors that will be hunted if your dog gets out. I don’t need to see pictures of pit bulls that haven’t killed anyone yet. I’ve already read the accounts, seen the pictures and watched the videos of too many pit bulls that suddenly started killing.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 5:28:19 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Malsua

Okay, I just had to chime in here and say... he’s adorable. Happy 1st Bday, Fitz!


39 posted on 01/05/2014 5:30:49 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Malsua

Awww, Fitz is a real sweetie! Thanks for the nice picture.

Happy Birthday Fitz! :)


40 posted on 01/05/2014 5:33:48 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Malsua

I nominate Fitz for “King of the thread” in honor of his b’day.


41 posted on 01/05/2014 5:39:04 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: kanawa

kanawa to ransomnote

Ahh, I see you’re referring to the stick as a baseball bat.

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Could be. Can’t want the video again while I am at work. By now I’ve watched and read many different accounts in which people are shocked that they can’t get a pit bull to let go of the victim. Hence the use of break sticks for pit bulls. My friend gave me a blow by blow account of his fight to pull a small child from a pit bull’s jaws. He and his friends tried a baseball bat and even a crow bar from the trunk but the dog wouldn’t let go.

Here’s “dog whisperer” Ceasar Milan’s comment on the fighting breeds compared with the rest of the dog population:
“Yeah, but this is a different breed...the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed - They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don’t feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to ‘make him dog’ (I guess as in a “regular” dog) so we can actually create the limits. So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it’s not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.”. If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it... That’s why they are such great fighters.”

Cesar goes on to say...”Especially with fighting breeds, you’re going to have these explosions over and over because there’s no limits in their brain.”


42 posted on 01/05/2014 5:46:08 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

forgot the link: http://depthchargethoughts.blogspot.com/2012/02/more-cesar-milan-expert-on-fighting.html

It is in several locations around the web, I randomly chose this one.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 5:46:57 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Jane Long
Okay, I just had to chime in here and say... he’s adorable. Happy 1st Bday, Fitz!

Thanks, we love him to death. He's as sweet as he looks :)

44 posted on 01/05/2014 5:49:35 PM PST by Malsua
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To: ransomnote
I nominate Fitz for “King of the thread” in honor of his b’day.

He says thanks...er, ah, I think that's what he said. It came out as a series of grrs and growls.

45 posted on 01/05/2014 5:52:30 PM PST by Malsua
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To: eastforker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3108561/posts


46 posted on 01/05/2014 5:52:31 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: eastforker

Carry a fire arm, shoot pitbulls...


47 posted on 01/05/2014 6:30:01 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: ransomnote
This breed is responsible for killing their own owners or other family members at unacceptable rates

Which breed are you talking about?
"pit bull" is a type and a rather nebulous one at that.
The dogs in question are more accurately referred to as terrier types or bulldog types.
To me "pit bull" is a functional term.
It refers to only one function for which some types and breeds of dogs have been used.
They have been used for many other functions.
I would be no more likely to call all the dogs that you do, "pit bulls"
than I would call all Irishmen, 'potato farmers' or all blacks, 'cotton pickers'.
That is the way I see it.

You say the 'rates' are unacceptable. What are these 'rates'?
In order to know a rate,
the number of occurrences must be known as well as the total population.
If you do not know the both the numerator and the denominator with accuracy
then the posited rate is just a blind guess.

But, be that as it may, what are 'acceptable rates'?

To me, even one death caused by any type or breed of dog is unacceptable
and virtually every one preventable through responsible ownership.

In a society where Freedom is cherished,
education is used to inculcate responsible behavior
and irresponsible behavior is punished.

The question then becomes how can responsibility be most effectively taught
and how can irresponsible behavior be most effectively policed and punished.

48 posted on 01/05/2014 6:39:33 PM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa

Standard “it depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is” fare frequently offered up from pit bull advocates to try to make it seem that it’s just impossible to pin down what kind of dog is doing ALL THIS KILLING. Instead, with a wave of the hand, they try to redirect “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” but it just doesn’t work.
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Quoting you:
The question then becomes how can responsibility be most effectively taught
and how can irresponsible behavior be most effectively policed and punished.
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No. That’s not the question. Pit bull owners don’t want to be responsible for the damage their dogs do (OH DON’T TAKE ME TO JAIL! NOOOOOO!!!!) and rarely if ever carry insurance on this damaging breed so the victim is stuck paying massive medical bills (if they survive), living with missing limbs/faces and going through countless operations while the owner gets off scot free.
No, the question is not how responsibility can be taught because pit bull owners have failed at being responsible all these years and are simply not interested in becoming responsible.
And “irresponsible behavior” clearly includes choosing to own a dog with this breed’s known capacity and proclivity to attack and do devastating damage. Owning this dog as a “pet” is “irresponsible behavior.” Ban the breed and prosecute violators. I am encouraged by the reports of criminal charges against dog owners whose “pets” hunt and kill others. If pit bull owners are prevented from worming their way out of being responsible for their irresponsible behavior (owning a pit as a pet) then it will drastically decrease the body count.


49 posted on 01/05/2014 6:49:53 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote
I see what side you are on.
You are an hypocrite, emotional and ignorant.
There is a name for those who are willing to trade freedom for safety.
I'll stay on the side of and fight for Freedom
and advocate for the responsibility that comes with it.


50 posted on 01/05/2014 8:01:33 PM PST by kanawa
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