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Former Guns & Ammo columnist speaks out on becoming 'a pariah'
Foxnews ^ | Jan 5, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 01/05/2014 4:33:04 PM PST by driftdiver

The ex-Guns & Ammo Magazine writer fired after penning a column in favor of limited gun control is speaking out, bitterly saying, “I’ve been vanished, disappeared. Now you see him. Now you don’t.”

“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times of what he believes is the unyielding, give-no-ground ethos adopted by Second Amendment supporters in the U.S. today. “People think it means giving up your principles.”

Metcalf, a longtime writer on firearms and U.S. gun culture, saw his association with Guns & Ammo terminated in November -- he also had a T.V. show co-produced by the magazine -- after he wrote a column titled, “Let’s Talk Limits: Do certain firearm regulations really constitute infringement?”

“The fact is, all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”

- Dick Metcalf

Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell, argued in the piece that, “way too many” gun owners believe any regulation of the right to bear arms is an infringement prohibited by the Constitution.

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The stupid, it burns.
1 posted on 01/05/2014 4:33:04 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Nothings has changed. He is still a pariah and an absolute dumb ass.
2 posted on 01/05/2014 4:35:15 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: driftdiver

Funny how the guy who is trying to “disappear” stuff like the word “inalienable” when it comes to rights complains about being “disappeared” when he’s evidently out there with the media giving him a soapbox.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 4:36:50 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: driftdiver

All rights have limits but Metcalf’s argument was for infringement.

No one says you should be able to pull your gun and point it at someone for the fun of it.

What Metcalf supported was clearly an attack on the right to keep and bear arms not some reasonable regulation.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 4:38:59 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: driftdiver
“People think it means giving up your principles.”

Go figure...

5 posted on 01/05/2014 4:39:32 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: driftdiver

“If you only cut off my foot, it’s not like you cut off my leg.” Chip, chip, chip. Glad they chunked his dumbazz.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 4:40:01 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: driftdiver
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times of what he believes is the unyielding, give-no-ground ethos adopted by Second Amendment supporters in the U.S. today. “People think it means giving up your principles.”

"In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit."--Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

7 posted on 01/05/2014 4:41:11 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: yarddog

Their reasonable regulation is always a one way dead end street.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 4:43:45 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Chip, chip, chip.

That's the point right there, and that's why this is different from the Phil Robertson controversy. Robertson wasn't advocating the scaling back of any "right." But Metcalf was.

9 posted on 01/05/2014 4:45:25 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: driftdiver

Like my grandfather told me, “boy, you don’t poop where you eat.”

it is true, but he did not say poop.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 4:46:39 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: driftdiver

Yep, a compromise is when both sides give up something.

Unfortunately too many times the gun owner’s representatives think compromise is giving them less than they ask for. All they have to do is demand even more the next time, then take less again. They never give up anything, just take less each time until they get it all.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 4:48:10 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Leaning Right

True!


12 posted on 01/05/2014 4:48:28 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: driftdiver

No negotiating with the Constitution, buddy.


13 posted on 01/05/2014 4:53:16 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: driftdiver

I can compromise on preferences. If I compromise on principles, they were never principles, but also preferences.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 4:54:38 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: driftdiver
"I’ve been vanished, disappeared. Now you see him. Now you don’t.”

And that's a good thing.

15 posted on 01/05/2014 4:54:40 PM PST by PGR88
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To: driftdiver

Too bad, so sad.


16 posted on 01/05/2014 4:56:13 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: driftdiver

This is the second story on this today. I don’t recall the source of the first, e.g, if it was FoxNews, but this is a two month old story. Bottom line is simple ... the bill of rights were written to protect the people from the Federal government, not the government from the people and not from people from each other. If you lose track of that while you are writing to a constitutionally informed audience, they will turn on you. What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ did he not understand? F him.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 4:56:21 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: driftdiver

Dick!


18 posted on 01/05/2014 4:57:48 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: driftdiver
“The fact is, all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”

Clearly does not understand that rights are not granted us by the Constitution. How this doofus ever got to be a writer for a conservative publication is beyond me. He obviously doesn't grasp the basics of conservatism, let alone the right to keep and bear arms.

19 posted on 01/05/2014 4:57:54 PM PST by IronJack
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To: driftdiver
This former Guns & Ammo subscriber has no sympathy for a pariah.
20 posted on 01/05/2014 4:59:11 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: driftdiver

Dick thinks that 30,000 gun laws aren’t enough. All we need is one more law and everything will be so much better.


21 posted on 01/05/2014 5:00:15 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: driftdiver
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times of what he believes is the unyielding, give-no-ground ethos adopted by Second Amendment supporters in the U.S. today. “People think it means giving up your principles.”

Compromise means "give and take" - it means both sides give concessions in order to achieve a mutual goal. We haven't seen compromise in decades - it's always the left taking and the spineless on the center-right giving.

The constitution, the second amendment, was written clearly and purposefully. The right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! Period!

The left doesn't want compromise - they want absolute power over the people. And the only thing standing between them and absolute power IS the second amendment.

22 posted on 01/05/2014 5:02:54 PM PST by meyer (Who needs gas chambers when you have Obamacare?)
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To: driftdiver

A year later, and he still sounds All Shook Up. Some bridges stay burned.


23 posted on 01/05/2014 5:06:10 PM PST by lee martell
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To: ConservativeInPA

Well the article I linked is new. Sorry if it offended you.


24 posted on 01/05/2014 5:06:27 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Don’t worry, buddy, you’ll have a lot of new friends soon, the libs love conservatives who’ve ‘grown’.


25 posted on 01/05/2014 5:07:25 PM PST by jocon307
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To: driftdiver
Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell....

Why, there's your problem right there, right out in the open. Who thought that this fellow-traveler would be a good hire, anyway?

26 posted on 01/05/2014 5:08:45 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: driftdiver

No offense AT ALL. This happened two months ago, and only today the media are picking up on it. I am pretty sure that FoxNews wasn’t the first to report it today, so it seems they are following others in the media ... big surprise, huh?


27 posted on 01/05/2014 5:10:39 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: driftdiver

libs can get away with no compromise. wonder why we can’t.

if you’re right, and standing for the truth, there’s no reason to depart from that point. only friggin idiots compromise off what they believe is right.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 5:13:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: driftdiver

This guy really “screwed the pooch”, to use that unlovely phrase.

He should have used the 13th Amendment test on his ideas before publishing them. That is, the 13th Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude. So he should imagine approaching an (intelligent) black person, to ask them how they would feel about “making some ‘common sense’ changes to allow a little slavery again.”

Would he truly say that he opposes the “unyielding, give-no-ground ethos adopted by 13th Amendment slavery opponents in the U.S. today?”

“People think it means giving up your principles” to support ‘limited’ slavery.”

Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell, argued in the piece that, “way too many” people believe any regulation permitting slavery is an infringement prohibited by the Constitution.

Following Metcalf’s dismissal, Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action to Bring Back Slavery in America, told FoxNews.com Metcalf “absolutely did not” deserve to lose his post.

“If he suggested enslaving all black people, then I would understand that reaction,” Watts said. “But to say a fair exchange of ideas on how to stem the deaths and murders in this country because of emancipated black people is an act of heresy just reeks of no tolerance.”


29 posted on 01/05/2014 5:14:34 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Dick thinks that 30,000 gun laws aren’t enough.

It is estimated that there are between 22,000 and 30,000 gun laws on the books in America.

30 posted on 01/05/2014 5:15:48 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hard to believe there is that many nanny laws.


31 posted on 01/05/2014 5:17:14 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: driftdiver

“Guns & Ammo” lost me as a subscriber right after I read this column. I called and told them to refund my subscription fee and they did.

And I won’t be back, either. I don’t trust them anymore.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 5:27:10 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: driftdiver

“Shall not be infringed...” is a phrase that is above the comprehension of most professors, especially those from Ivy League and Progressive Universities.


33 posted on 01/05/2014 5:27:25 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: driftdiver
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times of what he believes is the unyielding, give-no-ground ethos adopted by Second Amendment supporters in the U.S. today. “People think it means giving up your principles.”

Uh, asshat boy? The good guys have been "compromising" for decades and have NOTHING to show for it. So for this to be a real "compromise", viewed over the entire period, tyrant busybodies have to give us stuff we want and get nothing in return for the next 80 years. I'm up for it. Are they?

34 posted on 01/05/2014 5:28:41 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: OldPossum

I got my refund too.

Did you notice the check was from some outfit in New York? I had never heard of them.


35 posted on 01/05/2014 5:32:36 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: driftdiver

Some mens pride never fades. They are wrong and and die on a hill and the yell from the grave.


36 posted on 01/05/2014 5:32:57 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: driftdiver


37 posted on 01/05/2014 5:39:53 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: driftdiver

Nothing like speaking and removing any doubts about whether he is a dumbass.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 5:44:27 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: driftdiver
"Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell..."

Well, there's your problem!
39 posted on 01/05/2014 5:48:04 PM PST by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: ThomasSawyer

Surprised me too. I never imagined a retired professor from those liberal cesspools would be writing for G&A.


40 posted on 01/05/2014 5:51:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
“The fact is, all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, and need to be.”

Tripling down on the stupid. First the oped, then the "apology" now this.

41 posted on 01/05/2014 5:55:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: driftdiver
“Compromise is a bad word these days,” Dick Metcalf, 67, told The New York Times...

Yer damned right!

Compromise is what Neville Chamberlain wanted. And we got WWII.

Compromise is what the RINO's in the US Government wanted. And we got the stealing of promised benefits from our retired veterans.

Shall I continue?

Compromise is what liberals always want when they know they can't win.

Compromise is the emasculation of conservative values...just so we can all get along.

Go to hell, Mr. Metcalf, and take your compromise with you.

In fact, take it to the unemployment office...maybe they'll grant you two and half years of benefits for it.

42 posted on 01/05/2014 5:55:54 PM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: driftdiver

Compromise=capitulation.

Don’t do it.

Simple, really, Dick.

Too many on the pro gun side are sometimes soft headed. Any training being required to exercise the 2A also requires the trained exercisers of said 2A to then be on a list, and they are in essence; registered. THAT, my FRiends, is registration.

Dick Metcaff will remain disappeared until he stops insisting that it being unlawful to shout “fire” in a crowded theater is regulation. It is not regulation, it is a crime to abuse one’s protected right to free speech to cause safety issues. It is also a crime to abuse one’s protected right to be armed to cause safety issues.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 5:58:56 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: driftdiver

“Metcalf, a former history professor at both Yale and Cornell...”

That says it all...leftist is as Leftist does...equals ‘Pariah’.


44 posted on 01/05/2014 5:59:19 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: yarddog

Yes, a compromise IS both sides giving up something.

But the fallacy is that on many issues (the 2nd Amendment is a great example), one side (the gun-grabbers) has nothing to give up, so ANY compromise benefits them; conversely, pro-2nd Amendment folks HAVE something, and any compromise takes away some of that something, so they always lose.


45 posted on 01/05/2014 6:00:35 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

That is an excellent point.


46 posted on 01/05/2014 6:04:26 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: hadaclueonce

But...He Pooped...$hit on him, not on us...


47 posted on 01/05/2014 6:09:07 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: yarddog

Yes, the check came from some outfit with the name “Media” in it. Never heard of them, either.


48 posted on 01/05/2014 6:11:26 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
“Dick thinks that 30,000 gun laws aren’t enough. All we need is one more law and everything will be so much better.”

Exactly. Dick says all the Bill of rights are regulated. That is true, in a sense, because the Rights can be abused in criminal ways. What he conveniently fails to mention is that the second amendment has been over-regulated for over a century. We need to scale back on the massive over-regulation that has taken place. We could do away with 90% of the gun laws, and the second amendment would still be over-regulated.

The reasonable analogy to “Shouting Fire! in a crowded theater” when there is no fire, is firing a gun in crowded theater when there is no legal justification to do so.

49 posted on 01/05/2014 6:11:40 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ought-six; All
“The But the fallacy is that on many issues (the 2nd Amendment is a great example), one side (the gun-grabbers) has nothing to give up, so ANY compromise benefits them; conversely, pro-2nd Amendment folks HAVE something, and any compromise takes away some of that something, so they always lose.”

You are close. But, the “gun grabbers” have plenty to give up. They could give up the Lautenberg amendment. They could give up the Gun Free School Zone act. They could give up the 1986 ban on registering more automatics than currently exist. They could give up the insane regulation of gun mufflers and short barrelled rifles and shotguns.

They refuse to consider any of those reasonable compromises because the MSM refuses to mention them.

It is a war of definitions, with the liars in the MSM the gravest enemy.

50 posted on 01/05/2014 6:18:30 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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