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Sunday Assembly: A Church For The Godless Picks Up Steam
NPR ^ | January 07, 2014 | MANDALIT DEL BARCO

Posted on 01/07/2014 10:33:06 AM PST by nickcarraway

It sometimes feels like church in the auditorium of the Professional Musicians union in Hollywood. It's a Sunday morning, and hundreds of people are gathered to meditate, sing and listen to inspirational poetry and stories.

But then the live band starts up — performing songs by the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and Jerry Lee Lewis. And instead of a sermon, there's a lecture by experimental psychologist and neuroscientist Jessica Cail about the biology of gender identification and sexual orientation.

This is a Los Angeles meeting of Sunday Assembly, a church for people who don't believe in God. The brainchild of two British comedians, the movement has since spread across the globe, and there are now about 30 chapters from Dublin to Sydney to New York.

'No Religion And Awesome Pop Songs'

There's little God talk at Sunday Assembly, but there is advice by local co-founder Ian Dodd to be authentic. That appealed to divinity student Noel Alumit.

"I don't necessarily have to believe what you believe, but we won't tell you what to believe — you know, props for that. Respect. Total respect for that," Alumit says.

This was exactly the intent of Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans when they started Sunday Assembly in the United Kingdom. "There are loads of people out there who want to live better, help often and wonder more," Jones says in a crowdfunding video pitching their idea for godless congregations.

"It's all the best bits of church, but with no religion and awesome pop songs," Evans says. "And it's not a cult," Evans adds.

"But that's exactly what we'd say if it were a cult," the pair deadpan.

This lighthearted approach seems to be reaching a growing number of nonreligious people.

"This is a big boom now of secularity — people not wanting to associate with religion, not wanting to identify as religious," says Phil Zuckerman, who teaches about secularism at Pitzer College in Southern California.

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"Some people who were raised with religion rejected it for certain reason that leaves them with a bitter taste in their mouth about religion: either they had bad experiences in their church, or they saw hypocrisy in the youth pastor, or they felt that religion was manipulative or all the litany of reasons people might not like religion," Zuckerman says. "Those people are a little bit angry at religion."

He says Sunday Assembly appeals to more optimistic atheists — those hoping to re-create what they felt was good about religion.

"They miss the community, they miss the music, they miss the multigenerational coming together with people that you might not otherwise be hanging out with," he says.

"But they don't want to go to a place where they have to keep their intellect on hold. They don't want to push pause on the skepticism button in their mind."

Aiming To Stay Dogma-Free

Zuckerman notes that there have been secular organizations for years, like the Ethical Culture Society, American Atheists, Humanist centers, some nondogmatic Unitarian chapters and organizations fighting for political and social causes.

But unlike some of these groups, he says, Sunday Assembly is not out to critique or debunk religion.

That approach is what drew TV animator David Hernston, 38, and retiree Valerie Stansfield, 75.

"I don't believe in God, and so going to church, even with Unitarian church, it's not so explicitly God-y, but there's still some spirituality that just doesn't resonate for me at all, so I've been hoping for this sort of community experience for a long time," Hernston says.

"I think it will grow," Stansfield says. "There's a lot of people who feel spiritual, they want the spiritual feelings, they want the celebration. It's natural. All humans love it."

Ian Dodd, one of the co-founders of LA's Sunday Assembly chapter, is a camera operator for TV shows like Community and True Blood by day.

"I got involved with Sunday Assembly about last February or March when I first started seeing the stories online about the London assembly. And by August we had a website and a YouTube channel, and we had 900 people signed up ahead of time, and here we are at our second assembly. We take our nonbelief as a beginning point, not an end point," he says, "because this is the here and now, and this is all we can count on. What is it we're going to do to make a difference here?"

The members in Los Angeles were encouraged to volunteer to read to children at a downtown elementary school, to donate blood and to plant some trees with a local charity organization.

In addition to Sunday Assembly, Dodd is a member of the Unitarian church in Santa Monica. He was once a practicing Buddhist who also dabbled in various New Age philosophies.

"As a young adult, I went off on my exploration and checked out this and that and tried to find something that was bigger than myself," he says. "And I discovered that the universe in itself is bigger and more fantastic and more awe-inspiring than any story that human beings have ever created for themselves."

Dodd does acknowledge that Sunday Assembly is not without its factional schisms, like many religions. He says the newly formed chapter in New York has already split over how much to emphasize atheism.

But he says the Los Angeles group is staying away, for now, from any kind of dogma, pro or con.

TOPICS: Local News; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: atheism; church; religion

1 posted on 01/07/2014 10:33:06 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Atheists turn a joke into reality.
2 posted on 01/07/2014 10:38:34 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Very interesting, feeling left out I guess.

3 posted on 01/07/2014 10:41:48 AM PST by easternsky
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To: nickcarraway

Well, whether they like it or not, they are now a REAL church. They have experienced their first Schism!

4 posted on 01/07/2014 10:44:36 AM PST by left that other site
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To: nickcarraway
This is the church and religion where YOU are god! Is there any wonder why Liberals are attracted to this like moths to a flame?
5 posted on 01/07/2014 10:45:51 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think this is OK…for many people for many reasons.

When I taught health classes for Community Health, one of the pupils told me that she went to a non church like this, and it had helped her turn her life around. She was not someone you’d like to meet in a dark alley, and she’d been an addict. Her teenage son was messed up too. Her upbringing had been terrible, she’d had a miserable life. But she was not stupid, was now doing much better, looked forward to finding a “real job.”

She was particularly proud that since she’d begun to get better, her son got off drugs too. So who am I to condemn them and whatever positive support they got from their non church? If it helps people, even helps them get off public assistance, it’s just fine with me.

6 posted on 01/07/2014 10:57:38 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve already attended some churches quite like that, alas...(although they weren’t quite as honest about their non-belief, preferring to keep references to God or Christ on their signs outdoors)

7 posted on 01/07/2014 10:57:44 AM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: Veto!

After all, they are the established government religion in the United States.

8 posted on 01/07/2014 11:17:58 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Obadiah

Very apt analogy.

9 posted on 01/07/2014 11:23:29 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: nickcarraway

Good, now when they try to force their views on the public, we can show this stuff and say they are a religion and violating the separation of church and state.

10 posted on 01/07/2014 11:33:39 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

I was thinking the exact same thing.

11 posted on 01/07/2014 11:39:01 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: nickcarraway

Atheists finding solace and purpose by meeting in their ‘non-church sundays’. Isn’t that like kind of copy-catting a church function they are so against in believing in? The irony is delicious.

12 posted on 01/07/2014 12:03:01 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: nickcarraway

As I heard it explained once.
Humans have needs- food, clothing and shelter..
For some, the meaning and purpose of life is better food, better clothing and better shelter...a cow doesn’t contemplate its life spiritualy, it just thinks of getting milked...and as tax payers or consumers who look for the bigger better things, we get milked all the way to the grave...

For some, once the basic needs are met, the search for the meaning or purpose of life begins...

Some don’t worry about the meaning of life because there is a religion of sorts out there for them that can explain how they got here without being responsible to a Creator- evolution...

Maybe these folks will run into and find the One they never intended to ask, seek or knock for...He meets us all where we are at...and isn’t a respector of persons...

13 posted on 01/07/2014 12:23:18 PM PST by delchiante
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To: nickcarraway

Why would they choose to meet on the Lord’s Day?

14 posted on 01/07/2014 12:35:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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