Posted on 01/07/2014 11:43:40 AM PST by Welchie25
One of the hot topics during our family’s Christmas gathering was Catholic education. My niece is a senior in high school, and as with everyone her age, she is consumed with selecting a college. Her parents are allowing her some freedom, but prefer that she attends a college with a good, Catholic environment.
They were all impressed with Catholic University of America. For my sister and brother-in-law, it was local and had a good religious atmosphere, and for my niece, it had solid academic programs and quick access to the city.
I spent many years at CUA, earning my doctorate, and my sister asked my opinion of the school. I enjoyed my time there, and heartily approved. Then, I heard the price - $52,852. (I had my tuition covered through a teaching assistantship).
Indebting a young adult with $211,000 in loans is not Catholic, and borders on being immoral.
After recovering from the shock, I reviewed a lot of other Catholic colleges. While many are cheaper than CUA, it pains me that all the schools were over six figures for four years of education. In good conscience, I could not recommend these schools to my niece unless she received a substantial scholarship.
My own family is at the opposite end of the spectrum, with my son entering kindergarten in the fall. I desperately want to send him to our parish school, and if we made some sacrifices, we could afford to send him there. Cutting out money budgeted for cable TV, going out to eat, and vacations would get us halfway there, and teaching extra classes would cover the other half. Here’s the problem. We have another son, and we would like to have more children. Since our parish has no family discount, what will we do in the future?
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicreview.org ...
The House of Borgia with Pope Alexander VI...was filled with murder, adultery, illegitimate children, simony, theft to maintain power in the family of Borgia.
Many Popes, Bishops, Cardinals in medieval times had mistresses and children out of wed-lock.
Pope Leo charged sinners for prayers for themselves and family members threatening their souls to hell if they didn’t pay up.
Pope Julius had several mistresses and at least one illegitimate child- in 1511 “a council brought charges of lewd sexual acts against him, alleging that he was “a sodomite covered with shameful ulcers,...”
Pope Benedict IX- was deemed “a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest” by St. Peter Damian...
I was born and raised Catholic then became Protestant, Church of the Nazarene in my late 30’s when I started going to Bible classes with a Pastor who had major in biblical history and I found out about the history of the Catholic Popes.
I did get a good upbringing in Catholic church and gave me a forever moral compass. However, I learned more with the Nazarene’s about a relationship with Jesus that I didn’t learn being a Catholic.
I will put my trust and faith in the Nazarene, Jesus.
I was born and raised Catholic then became Protestant, Church of the Nazarene in my late 30’s when I started going to Bible classes with a Pastor who had major in biblical history and I found out about the history of the Catholic Popes.
I did get a good upbringing in Catholic church and gave me a forever moral compass. However, I learned more with the Nazarene’s about a relationship with Jesus that I didn’t learn being a Catholic.
I will put my trust and faith in the Nazarene, Jesus.
What you have said is a combination of half-truth, distortion, and fabrication ... it is disgusting and repulsive and a disgrace.
LOL!!! The existence of a "St. Peter Damian" should be your first clue that there's a whole lot more to the Roman Catholics than just the malefactors you choose to highlight.
you said “That statement is worse than merely false; it represents half truth, distortion, and outright fabrication. I showed you several examples that were truth not distortion, not half truth and no fabrication.
Were there moral upstanding people in the Catholic church yes? But there have been ones who were not...Quite a few leaders of the Catholic faith were the anti-thesis of Jesus.
you said “That statement is worse than merely false; it represents half truth, distortion, and outright fabrication. I showed you several examples that were truth not distortion, not half truth and no fabrication.
Were there moral upstanding people in the Catholic church yes? But there have been ones who were not...Quite a few leaders of the Catholic faith were the anti-thesis of Jesus.
If so, why is the Catholic church spending millions of dollars to pay families for immoral activities done to them. If you would watch some videos of the village people here in Alaska and let them explain how awful it was to be a victim of a priest you might change you mind about half-truths.
The disgrace falls on the church and people who have covered up this activity. Open you eyes, you have been duped.
By showing ONLY those examples, you showed a half-truth. The chink in your armor was the reference to "St. Peter Damian" ... a vigorous critic of papal malfeasance whom the Roman Catholics themselves hold up as a "saint". Again, that should be your first clue that simply mentioning the malefactors is not telling the whole truth.
Enough. This topic is boring; anyone capable of independent research can easily see that for all their faults, the organized churches have been a force for good and for the Gospel in society. Leave the poo-throwing to baboons and chimpanzees. It's a distraction from preaching the Gospel.
Don't assume ignorance on the part of those who think you're wrong. Post 29 is for you, too.
I think our kids will be going to a public university with a strong Newman Club. There is no sense in spending extra money for an institution that will probably be embarrassed to be Catholic, anyway. There are some that are faithfully Catholic, but they are expensive or don’t offer STEM or are really cold (University of Mary in ND, for example).
Don’t foot the bill for the older kids, make the older kids work their way through school, instilling a work ethic.
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Having kids pay for their schooling is certainly one way to instill a work ethic, but definitely not the only way.
I have paid for all 3 of my kids college educations, and would do so again.
Of course, none of them attended 50K/year schools, and I was already quite clear of their work ethic and their motivation.
Have you even looked at Catholicism on the internet to see what it actually entails?
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LOL. YOu learned everything you know about Catholicism from the internet? Did you look at any sites that were written by Catholics? For Catholics? Did you read the Catechism?
Or just stuff written about Catholics by those opposed to CAtholicism.
Pretty sure I know the answer.
For the record: I’m not Catholic.
Actually, I was just making it easy for someone to at least check into the truth. I have read many books on the subject as well as listened to biblical teachers. Here is a start if you are interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians
Nice link.
It shows that Roman Catholics have been persecuted by Jews, pagans, mohammedans, Protestants, socialists, communists, Hindus, Buddhists, animists ...
It shows that Roman Catholics have persecuted Jews and Protestants.
It shows that Protestants have been persecuted by pagans, mohammedans, other Protestants, Roman Catholics, socialists, communists, Hindus, Buddhists, animists ...
It shows that Protestants have persecuted Jews, other Protestants and Roman Catholics.
What a shock! Men are sinners!
But all is not lost: WE HAVE A SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST THE LORD!!! Turn to Him! Repent your sins, believe in Him, and be saved!
Well, exactly; yet, knowing the way schools are today, I think making your kids pay their way makes them think a lot more clearly about what it is that they want to do, how to go get it, and will ensure that they are motivated to do well.
I am worried about the education of the nation's children even though mine are now successful adults who are observant in their faith.
Why am I worried?
Answer: Because my children and grandchildren’s votes will be swamped like tsunami by the indoctrinated low information voter if the nation's overall system of schooling its children remains intact.
It seems that your post is just a thumb jabbed in the eye of Catholics.
Personally, I admire Dr. Bianchi for his concern about his children's education and making plans now for their future. Good for him!
My experience with Villanova University (an Augustinian university) in the early 70s wasn’t much better. They placed Liberation Theology and the Democratic Party above God.
This is how tithing could work: Abandon the Prussian-model and brick and mortar system and forget the team sports. Stop trying to mimic the godless government schools. Seriously, I mean it.
Homeschoolers have a long track record of producing well prepared students with the most minimal of resources. With a little bit of creativity and “out of the brick and mortar box” thinking **ALL** the Christian and conservative children in this nation could get an excellent education.
By the way Charles Murray has some excellent ideas regarding certifiable qualifying exams. Although his focus is on post-HS schooling, it could easily be adapted by Christian denominations starting as early as first grade.....BUT....They would have to STOP copying the government school prison-model.
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