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Germany started the Great War, but the Left canít bear to say so
UK Daily Telegraph ^ | January 6, 2014 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 01/08/2014 6:10:44 AM PST by C19fan

One of the reasons I am a Conservative is that, in the end, I just can’t stand the intellectual dishonesty of the Left. In my late teens I found I had come to hate the way Lefties always seemed to be trying to cover up embarrassing facts about human nature, or to refuse to express simple truths – and I disliked the pious way in which they took offence, and tried to shoosh you into silence, if you blurted such a truth. Let me give you a current example of this type of proposition. It is a sad but undeniable fact that the First World War – in all its murderous horror – was overwhelmingly the result of German expansionism and aggression. That is a truism that has recently been restated by Max Hastings, in an excellent book, and that has been echoed by Michael Gove, the Education Secretary. I believe that analysis to be basically correct, and that it is all the more important, in this centenary year, that we remember it.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archduke; assassination; austria; france; franzferdinant; germany; sarajevo; thegreatwar; unitedkingdom; war; whinywhiningwhiners
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As a FYI, Mr. Johnson is the Tory Mayor of London and heir apparent to current PM Cameron.
1 posted on 01/08/2014 6:10:44 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Germany?

Did this person ever read a history book on that war?


2 posted on 01/08/2014 6:13:05 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: C19fan
AND ... born in 1964, his teen years were approx 1980 - 1985

The Reagan years

3 posted on 01/08/2014 6:14:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Don’t mention the war.”


4 posted on 01/08/2014 6:14:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: C19fan
It is a sad but undeniable fact that the First World War – in all its murderous horror – was overwhelmingly the result of German expansionism and aggression.

I'm always suspicious of anyone who uses the phrase "undeniable fact". Because that's a clever little way of saying "no debate will be permitted."

5 posted on 01/08/2014 6:16:23 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: C19fan
This year is the 100th anniversary of WWI and 150 years since the Civil war. 60 years ago we were in WWII then Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... War has not solved anything so why do they try to blame someone on starting war and ignore finding solutions to stop wars?
6 posted on 01/08/2014 6:18:07 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: C19fan

In the Dark Ages of the Middle Ages, people were ignorant because of lack of education.

In the coming Dark Ages, people will be ignorant because of education.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 6:18:33 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: C19fan
The war started because Germany invaded Belgium and Austria-Hungary (AH) invaded Serbia.

As Boris says: those powers - the 'Axis' powers - didn't go to war because of the assassination of the Arch-Duke. They went to war because they believed that they were going to gain control of Europe.

The Austro-Hungarian empire seized on the death of the ArchDuke as a pretext, and gave an almost impossible ultimatum to Serbia.

Serbia promptly accepted 90% of their terms. They accepted all the terms that they could possibly accept and still maintain sovereign control over their own army. Austro-Hungary had saved face - there was no sense in which the Axis powers were backed into a corner.

However peace simply wouldn't do. The Axis powers wanted war because they believed - not unreasonably - that they were going to win it. They had a very precise, war-winning plan - the Schlieffen plan - and they meant to use it.

WW1 was a war of territorial aggrandizement launched by the German Confederation and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They could have had peace, but they wanted war.

We are often told that WW1 began because of a comparatively trivial assassination - but this is not true. World War One was a horribly sincere war of oppression.

Hope this is helpful.

8 posted on 01/08/2014 6:19:01 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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Just sent it to my brother who is a docent at the WW1 museum.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 6:19:17 AM PST by Mercat
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It is a sad but undeniable fact that the First World War – in all its murderous horror – was overwhelmingly the result of German expansionism and aggression.

Of course, Britain, France, Russia, Italy and Japan--the good guys--had no desire to expand their empires. None whatsoever.

10 posted on 01/08/2014 6:25:21 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: C19fan

Read this book: http://www.amazon.com/The-Guns-August-Pulitzer-Prize-Winning/dp/0345476093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389191245&sr=8-1&keywords=the+guns+of+august


11 posted on 01/08/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: VanDeKoik
Germany?
Did this person ever read a history book on that war?

You mean, like the Treaty of Versialles?

I went to Austria some years ago, BEAUTIFUL country. At an attempt of humor, our guide, a very sweet dingbat said: "We keep trying to convince the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian. Hahaha."

I didn't that was funny at all.

12 posted on 01/08/2014 6:30:47 AM PST by cloudmountain (.)
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To: C19fan

How dare the Germans resist the peaceful British Empire.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 6:34:10 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: agere_contra
The Axis powers wanted war because they believed - not unreasonably - that they were going to win it.

The Axis powers were the adherents of the Three-Power Pact--the "Axis Pact"--of 1940.

14 posted on 01/08/2014 6:34:22 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: mountainlion

War has not solved anything so why do they try to blame someone on starting war and ignore finding solutions to stop wars?


Wars are like poverty. They come with human nature. The best way to stop wars is to be so powerful that nobody dares start one. But even then, it is no guarantee.

Sometimes bullies want your lunch money. You can give it to them or you can bust a cap in their head, sending a message to other bullies.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 6:38:55 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
Five of the belligerents had a Grand-Mother named Queen Victoria.
16 posted on 01/08/2014 6:40:35 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Fiji Hill

World War One began when Germany invaded Belgium and Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia.

Nobody forced them to invade these countries. They invaded them because they expected to seize control of large parts of Europe.

It’s interesting that - even as their Uhlans were raping and burning their way across Belgium - the German propaganda machine relied on much the same rhetoric that you’ve chosen to use.


17 posted on 01/08/2014 6:40:57 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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The Axis powers were the adherents of the Three-Power Pact--the "Axis Pact"--of 1940.

Right you are. In the Great War, Germany and its allies were called the Central Powers.

18 posted on 01/08/2014 6:43:48 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: C19fan

Darryl Bates: What started it?

Col. Andy Tanner: I don’t know. Two toughest kids on the block, I guess. Sooner or later, they’re gonna fight.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 6:44:23 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Born to Conserve
How dare the Germans resist the peaceful British Empire.

The Germans were the aggressors in World War One.

World War One began when Germany invaded Belgium and Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia.

Germany invaded Belgium - not only taking over a sovereign country (and committing vile atrocities against the populace) but also taking control of Antwerp and the Scheldt.

Britain guaranteed Belgian neutrality not only to curb Prussian and French territorial ambitions but to protect the Scheldt - a deep water port close to Britain that could be used to launch an invasion.

The German Confederation reneged on the Treaty of London when they invaded Belgium and brutalized its people. That vicious land-grab (along with the Austro-Hungarian attack on Serbia) was the real start of WW1.

20 posted on 01/08/2014 6:45:49 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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