Posted on 01/08/2014 7:18:55 AM PST by C19fan
A wonderful set of photographs taken in China and Japan which gave the Western world one of its first glimpses of the Far East is going for auction. And one particular image of Chinese corpses at North Fort in Peiho in 1860 has presented a stark reminder of the Second Opium War. The North Fort was one of several Taku Forts - strategically-placed defences in China that guarded the mouth of the Peiho River. The fort, which was located near modern-day Tianjin, was breached on August 20, 1860 and its garrison surrendered after a fierce fight.
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And don’t think the Chinese still don’t hold a grudge.
Asians absolutely abhor Western intrusions and influence in their affairs. The Japanese rational for WWII was to rid Asia of British, French, Dutch and American rule and control. Today the Chinese are motivated by the same sentiments.
Yet another indefensible British action.
A historian friend of mine once remarked that the British upper class was the greatest group of criminals in history. A bit of an exaggeration to be sure, but he had a point.
They're buying up American land and swimming in our money. I'd say they've successfully usurped us.
Brave men who died facing the enemy. The earthworks are impressive.
Yep, and not just the far east. Ask any Irish or Scot what their people have suffered at the hands of the British aristocracy.
I thought the japs attacked Pearl because the US (then the saudi arabia of oil) embargoed oil to Japan.
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/worldwarii/a/wwiipaccauses_2.htm
“In addition to military support, the US, Britain, and the Netherlands East Indies initiated oil and steel embargos against Japan in August 1941.
Moving Towards War with the US
The American oil embargo caused a crisis in Japan. Reliant on the US for 80% of its oil, the Japanese were forced to decide between withdrawaling from China, negotiating an end to the conflict, or going to war to obtain the needed resources elsewhere. In an attempt to resolve the situation, Konoe asked US President Franklin Roosevelt for a summit meeting to discuss the issues. Roosevelt replied that Japan needed to leave China before such a meeting could be held. While Konoe was seeking a diplomatic solution, the military was looking south to the Netherlands East Indies and their rich sources of oil and rubber. Believing that an attack in this region would cause the US to declare war, they began planning for such an eventuality.”
“And dont think the Chinese still dont hold a grudge.”
I think a lot of American Indians hold a grudge and maybe rightfully so.
“Asians absolutely abhor Western intrusions and influence in their affairs.”
Isn’t this generally true.
Personally I absolutely abhor Washington DC intrusions and influence in my affairs.
Frankly, (fill in the blank with the people of your choice) absolutely abhor (fill in the blank with a different people of your choice) intrusions and influence in their affairs.
A historian friend of mine once remarked that the British upper class was the greatest group of criminals in history. A bit of an exaggeration to be sure, but he had a point.
Also known as leftist dogma.
In all objectivity, the Chinese were worse to whomever they could be.
“Asians absolutely abhor Western intrusions and influence in their affairs.”
Oh yeah. They really hated how the Soviet Russians helped them in the early 20th century. Both Communists and Nationalists took this help.
Chiang Ching-Kuo lived in Soviet Russia for a long time and married a Russian woman.
war is hell after all
Effem
This means only one thing. There isn’t enough social justice in the world against European colonialists. The world needs more Obama. /s
Worse still is that they died in a noble cause in that they were trying to rid their country of opium much like the US is trying to rid ourselves of cocaine. (Not that we are trying that hard-the money is good after all)
We all have blood on our hands and the best thing that ever happened to much of the world was colonial rule as ugly as it was.
I am not defending all actions by the Brits but you are all parroting the public education line. Insidious and effective - bleh. Consider what would have happened if the Chinese had had the technology to invade the West at that time....
the funny thing is, born in 70, growing up in taiwan, i never knew about the russian wife.
didn’t find out until i’m 40 years old... watching ettv in USA.
quite surprising to me, same as when she found out he had a mistress and sons with her.
That’s something.
It goes to show what media can do with out overtly lying.
It’s like that here now with the selective reporting.
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