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Holder's New School Discipline Guidelines: Stop Targeting Minorities
Breitbart News ^ | 8 Jan 2014 | KIMBERLY HEFLING

Posted on 01/08/2014 3:11:18 PM PST by EinNYC

WASHINGTON The Obama administration is urging schools to abandon overly zealous discipline policies that civil rights advocates have long said lead to a school-to-prison pipeline that discriminates against minority students.

The wide-ranging series of guidelines issued Wednesday in essence tells schools that they must adhere to the principle of fairness and equity in student discipline or face strong action if they don't. The American Civil Liberties Union called the recommendations "ground-breaking."

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: arth; blackkk; ericholder; fastandfurious; georgezimmerman; holder; institutionalracism; mandatoryprofiling; minoritystudents; racialprofiling; racistholder; schooldiscipline; schoolle
Oh just great. Now, the Fed ignoramuses want to, once again, stick their non-educator noses into the education system, imposing QUOTAS on how many students can be suspended or subjected to other severe disciplinary measures. Their gripe is that black students are suspended or severely disciplined in much great numbers.

I don't know about other cities, but I can tell you from personal experience that it is usually a black student who is the first to act out in a classroom, then joined by other students. I see black students wandering the halls when they should be in class, in much greater numbers. This is not a figment of my imagination, it's what I see every day with my own eyes.

Are civil-rights advocates educators? No. They are looking for causes to further their agendas, and have presently focused on students as vehicles for that purpose. And you think they give half a ___ about what happens to those students they advocate being punished with a slap on the wrist for carrying a weapon into school, setting fires in stairways or bathrooms, or beating up your kid down the line? Furthermore, they want to send people into schools to "monitor" that the numbers of students punished for misdeeds adheres to their sick idea of quotas.

Think on this for a moment. What message do you think this will convey to potential miscreants? Ha-ha, you can't discipline ME, 'cos you'll be over your quotas. I'll get the Feds in here to mess you up.

Ensure that school personnel understand that they are responsible for administering routine student discipline instead of security or police officers.

Teachers are routinely warned NOT to break up fights in classrooms or halls, to leave that to security personnel. And if they are injured while trying to break up a fight, they will not supported by the powers-that-be.

Provide opportunities for school security officers to develop relationships with students and parents.

A lot of the school security officers are no better than the students in their behavior. I have often seen them fraternizing in an inappropriate manner with students or congregating to engage in personal conversations instead of ensuring school safety. So it seems to me that they are ALREADY "developing relationships" with students--the wrong kind.

...And, it encourages schools to collect and monitor data that security or police officers take to ensure nondiscrimination.

Collect and monitor data? More data in the hands of the govermment, to manipulate and use to further their own agenda? Just what we need. So disruptive students can go and hide behind the skirts of the government instead of having consequences for their actions.

Arne Duncan, a non-educator, insists that "we need to keep students in class where they can learn." Riiiight. We need to keep students who are disrupting classes and keeping the kids who WANT to learn from doing so in the class, so that NO ONE can learn. I've seen plenty of this going on, and it breaks one's heart to see the kids who WANT to learn being prevented from doing so by the disruptive kids who destroy the learning environment with noise and horseplay and who divert the teacher's time from teaching so that they can deal with the disturbances caused by the disruptive students.

"For example, in our investigations, we have found cases where African-American students were disciplined more harshly and more frequently because of their race than similarly situated white students," the letter said.

How were these "investigations" conducted? Who conducted them? What agenda was behind the investigation? Inquiring minds want to know. Were the African-American students disciplined "more harshly and more frequently" because they were indeed doing stuff they should not have been doing in greater numbers and great frequency? In the present climate of our society, it is hard to believe this letter's statement. If anything could be conclusively proved along these lines, it would have already have resulted in headline-grabbing court cases.

1 posted on 01/08/2014 3:11:18 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

This is going to lead eventually to massive increases in the (already high) numbers of video security and monitoring cameras in schools.

Schools are going to become total reality immersion zones for recorded and remote monitoring.


2 posted on 01/08/2014 3:15:02 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: EinNYC

The schools should just use H0lder as a Whipping Boy.


3 posted on 01/08/2014 3:17:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Steely Tom

A automatic motion targeting paint ball gun would help.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 3:18:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Steely Tom


And ignore the bell curve behind the window. IQ has nothing to do with success as a student.
5 posted on 01/08/2014 3:18:29 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EinNYC

“I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.

“I look to a day when people will not be judged by the content of their character, but by the color of their skin.” - Eric Himpton Holder, Jr.

And no one even notices.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 3:19:21 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Steely Tom

Mandatory chip inserts will likely start in public schools.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 3:21:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: EinNYC

Just continuing the Holder Manifesto: when a black person attacks, it is your civic duty as a caucasian or asian to surrender/take the beating/die. You cannot defend yourself against the Race. To do so is a crime against the Reich.


8 posted on 01/08/2014 3:22:40 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: EinNYC; metmom

Bottom line, private school or homeschool.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 3:37:19 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Bryanw92

“Just continuing the Holder Manifesto: when a black person attacks, it is your civic duty as a caucasian or asian to surrender/take the beating/die.”

So what if two blacks attack each other? Just let them fight it out like Roman Gladiators, while another black child films it for World Star hip hop?


10 posted on 01/08/2014 3:38:35 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Bryanw92
You cannot defend yourself against the Race. To do so is a crime against the Reich.

The pen is mightier then the Sword..

11 posted on 01/08/2014 3:38:54 PM PST by just me (GOD BLESS AMERICA Amen)
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To: EinNYC

Open season on Cracker Babies!


12 posted on 01/08/2014 3:39:22 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Steely Tom

maybe dumbass should have said minorities need to quit acting up.

naaaa....that’d be to easy of an assertion.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 3:40:17 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Morgana

>>So what if two blacks attack each other? Just let them fight it out like Roman Gladiators, while another black child films it for World Star hip hop?

In the Obamanation, it isn’t your place to question what The Race does.


14 posted on 01/08/2014 3:41:46 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: EinNYC

And the beat(down of the white majority that built this place) goes on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53cJQC0gVak


15 posted on 01/08/2014 3:44:59 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: EinNYC

What about the minorities who want to learn in safe and non-disruptive classrooms?


16 posted on 01/08/2014 3:46:32 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Morgana

Obviously the principal will have to find some white kids to punish


17 posted on 01/08/2014 3:49:01 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EinNYC

I still say that this is the administration’s model for the larger criminal justice system: Separate enforcement of the law depending on ethnicity.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 3:49:29 PM PST by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Jewbacca

Funny graph, considering that one of the most successful LA attorneys was the late Johnny Cochrane.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 3:56:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: MHGinTN

“for the common good”


20 posted on 01/08/2014 3:57:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: PGR88
They are often bullied by the disruptive kids for being "oreos" or "acting white". There is a definite anti-studying subculture going on. I find it incredible that the disruptive students associate behaving nicely, doing your homework, and doing well on test as "acting white". So they themselves are defining "black behavior" as just the opposite. Therefore, if their behavior results in what amounts to theft of education from the kids of ANY color who want to learn (and therefore not be on future welfare rolls), why should they NOT be punished? Because some racist anal orifice named Holder says so?
21 posted on 01/08/2014 3:59:37 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Morgana

Bump!

Subjecting your children to the propaganda being taught in government indoctrination centers (public schools) is almost criminal.

If you aren’t home or private schooling, you should. Get away from the brainwashers filling your kids heads with mush.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 4:07:28 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Bryanw92

Yep, Rachel Jenteal taught us that we’re supposed to take our “whoopin”.


23 posted on 01/08/2014 4:22:59 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: BenLurkin

All explained here:

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2prAXiXMG


24 posted on 01/08/2014 4:28:01 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EinNYC
That policy sure worked with Little Saint Trayvon.
25 posted on 01/08/2014 4:43:18 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Bryanw92

“In the Obamanation, it isn’t your place to question what The Race does.”

Seriously I could care less what they do to each other. Let them have at it. If their parents don’t care then why should I?


26 posted on 01/08/2014 4:58:22 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Jewbacca

No doubt. As Oscar Hammerstein reminded us, “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught”.


27 posted on 01/08/2014 5:52:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Bryanw92

H0lder looks like a Mulatto even lighter than Bammy, or is that too nuanced of a ‘discussion of “race”’ as currently defined (purely skin color).


28 posted on 01/08/2014 5:56:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin

Getting into the tail is a GOOD THING.


29 posted on 01/08/2014 5:57:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

>>H0lder looks like a Mulatto even lighter than Bammy, or is that too nuanced of a ‘discussion of “race”’ as currently defined (purely skin color).

Oddly enough, The Race has returned to the old rule of “One drop is enough” but they’ve added “if you are a liberal” to it.


30 posted on 01/08/2014 6:08:37 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

How about the targeting of George Zimmerman, eh, Holder? Or the uncounted Latino and American victims of YOUR Fast and Furious criminal conspiracy? Thanks EinNYC.


31 posted on 01/08/2014 6:44:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv
You're welcome, Civ. With all the serious problems we have with trying to keep schools a place where you can get on the road to becoming an educated person, anything which interferes with that process is a direct threat. A threat to education, a threat to other students' safety and a threat to the safety of school personnel. I cannot begin to count how many times I've been threatened by black students with "F--k you, I gonna shoot/stab/end/snuf/etc. you," "F--k you, we gonna find you after school and jump you," been spit on, been hit in the head by deliberately thrown beverage bottles or candy, been deliberately bumped into, etc. Colleagues have been hospitalized after having been assaulted by students, mostly black. Even if a student is not physically violent but daily disrupts the class, they are certainly guilty of theft of services because the teacher will have to stop the lesson to deal with them. And then take precious time when they could be grading papers or xeroxing handouts or making up a test or perfecting their Commie Core lesson to call the parents (you average a 25% chance of reaching them) of the perp. Nine times out of ten, such a chronically disruptive kid is found to be in foster care.

Yet this abysmal imbecile bigot Holder would stay the hand of school administration to assign consequences to these students which are appropriate to the level of seriousness of the deed, threatening them with consequences of their own as a "reward" for trying to maintain the tone of their schools.

One only wonders what new scandalous deed Holder is trying to divert the public's attention from with this idiotic idea.

32 posted on 01/08/2014 7:07:20 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

this will lead to white flight from public schools. enrollments will go down and funds to schools will go down, teachers unions will shrink. whites will migrate to private schools to get away from an ever increasing dangerous environment that will have its hands tied correcting the problem. it can’t e fixed now and it will be worse soon.


33 posted on 01/08/2014 7:11:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EinNYC
Nine times out of ten, such a chronically disruptive kid is found to be in foster care.

Or, a group home. We teachers found out that enough calls from us and the kid would be moved to a new group or foster home so we'd pile on the calls -- ALL of them justified, AFAIC. We are talking about real miscreants who prevented us from doing our jobs, made sure no one in the entire class learned -- along with threatening to F- us teachers up, etc. I've always said it violates a student's civil rights to have his education constantly disrupted by thugs. I know it is much much worse now - I've moved on to a better school with much better students and my entire life has improved dramatically. Horrible experience I wouldn't wish on anyone. The public has NO IDEA what goes on in these types of schools on a daily basis.

34 posted on 01/08/2014 7:48:01 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Bon of Babble

Amen, bro!


35 posted on 01/08/2014 8:00:25 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Schools will have special classrooms. Let the bad asses put their show on for each other.


36 posted on 01/08/2014 8:41:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

In NYC anyway, there would not be ROOM for a “special room” such as you describe. They have to take over teachers lounges, closets, anything to find space to put kids. Lots of illegals occupying seats in the system sure doesn’t help, AND they require a lot of special services, bilingual teachers, some schools even issue bilingual memos to everyone. Secondly, some libtard would sic the ACLU on the school, citing they were somehow “discriminating” against the b.a.’s, denying them equal education, “traumatizing” them, hurting their feeeeelings, whatever. Guaranteed.


37 posted on 01/09/2014 4:26:08 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: BenLurkin

Today, I had the misfortune of going to the US Post Office.

There was a medium-to-long line. Slow. Three people at the counter: old hippy white guy, angry black lady, and Hispanic 20 something. The white guy and the Hispanic were dutifully going through the customers.

The black lady would give a little nod to blacks in line and they would cut, walk to the front, and she would serve them.

Can’t wait until she’s in charge of my health care.


38 posted on 01/09/2014 7:35:21 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EinNYC

Holder’s a fool. It’s like he hasn’t opened his eyes since 1973...


39 posted on 01/09/2014 2:28:01 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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