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A Totally Rational Defense Of The BCS, And Why You’re Gonna Miss It Next Year
the federalist ^

Posted on 01/08/2014 7:08:18 PM PST by Perdogg

Five years ago, “Saturday Night Live” ran a sketch in which Will Forte expressed his undying love for college football’s Bowl Championship Series with a comic song. The point was, needless to say, not terribly subtle.

I love stepping in dog crap And I love it when children get sick I love paper cuts on my corneas And I love the BCS



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1 posted on 01/08/2014 7:08:18 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...

ping


2 posted on 01/08/2014 7:09:13 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Next year will they still have all the traditional major bowls AND the 4 team playoff...or will some of the bowls be the semifinal playoff?


3 posted on 01/08/2014 7:12:51 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Perdogg

There’s nothing wrong with the BCS that one more game wouldn’t fix.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 7:14:19 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: nascarnation

The bowl games will still take place, but their status will rotate as to whether it will be part of the playoffs.


5 posted on 01/08/2014 7:15:31 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Right. Until the bitching from teams five and six and seven and...


6 posted on 01/08/2014 7:16:14 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Perdogg

thanks


7 posted on 01/08/2014 7:16:23 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

This is what burns me up. At least the NFL has an objective method of seeding teams. We will soon discover how big of a joke these playoffs are.

It will be Notre Dame (which is not part of conference) plus three teams each year.


8 posted on 01/08/2014 7:17:24 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: EEGator

People will always complain but if you’re talking about who is entitled to a shot at #1 then teams that are 5th or 6th have little to complain about.

Most years teams 3 and 4 aren’t really entitled to a shot either. But for those rare occasions when there are multiple contenders this playoff will be good.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 7:21:14 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Perdogg
It will be Notre Dame (which is not part of conference) plus three teams each year.

I have the same concern. That is why the BCS system with a 4 team playoff would be better than either the existing system or the new system.

10 posted on 01/08/2014 7:23:46 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I agree for the most part, but I certainly think it will expand out from four teams.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 7:24:27 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Perdogg
Even the old BCS system was *somewhat* objective, as a third of each team's rankings came from computer rankings (say what you will about that).

But the new playoff system rankings are entirely subjective, based solely on human whims.

This could get ugly.

12 posted on 01/08/2014 7:25:09 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: All

Here os what will happen..
“dude, my team got hosed man.. It’s a conspiracy between, ESPN, ABC, FOX, NBC, CBS, CNN, SEC, The Federal Reserve Bank, the Bildabergers, Roger Ailes, Skull and Bones, the Koch Brothers, Microsoft, Apple, Verizon, AT&T, Sprint George Soros, the CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS and Telemundo, to only have teams from big conferences and winning records play.. man, this is totally bogus man, what a gyp...”


13 posted on 01/08/2014 7:30:26 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Perdogg

“At least the NFL has an objective method of seeding teams.”

Objective? Is that why an 11 - 5 team has to play an away game against a team that went 9 - 7?

In the NFL conferences should be realigned every year, top to bottom. That would be ‘objective’. ;-)


14 posted on 01/08/2014 7:33:42 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

It is objective. You have to win your division. Both San Fran and New Orleans proved the better team won. Same thing in the AFC.

If you look at the NFL schedule, you play 10 teams in your conference. Plus you play 8 common games outside of your division.

It is easy to establish a set of objective playoff standards.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 7:41:42 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Leave the NFL conferences as they are. Divisions, on the other hand, could use some shaking up.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 7:44:44 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Perdogg

;’)


17 posted on 01/08/2014 7:50:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers; Perdogg

“Divisions, on the other hand, could use some shaking up.”

Yes, you are correct. I used the word ‘conferences’ when I meant ‘divisions’.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 7:51:37 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: nascarnation

In 5 years, there will be 8 team playoffs; in 10 years 16; and by 2029, 32 teams will be in the brackets. We’ll have college football until Spring Training starts. Thank goodness this is amateur athletics and there’s no money involved. Could you imagine what might happen once the big money pours into college football?


19 posted on 01/08/2014 7:55:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Perdogg

Who really gives a crap? Isn’t it a little perverted that grown men take such am interest in what group of almost juvenile illiterate criminals is deemed no. 1 ? At least there was some charm in the old bowl system. Didn’t take itself too seriously ...


20 posted on 01/08/2014 8:14:18 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Perdogg

End the nonsense bowl games and go to a playoff system!


21 posted on 01/08/2014 9:43:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

If you want to play at home, win your division.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 9:44:47 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Perdogg
"This is what burns me up. At least the NFL has an objective method of seeding teams. We will soon discover how big of a joke these playoffs are."

' The "objective" NFL format would seed a 15-1 team that finished second in its division lower than an 8-8 team that won it's division. What is your formula for an "objective" NCAA Division 1 format that includes about a dozen conferences and about 120 teams? With - say - two 12-0 teams and three 11-1 teams and 7 10-2 teams and 10 9-3 teams, what is your "objective method for determining who gets in the playoffs?
23 posted on 01/08/2014 10:04:38 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dinoparty

I agree entirely. There should be about 12-16 bowl games, not 34 or whatever, so that at least they mean something.


24 posted on 01/08/2014 10:06:33 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: fortheDeclaration

Correct.

Have an 8 team playoff based on the conference champions.

If you don’t win your conference you don’t get to the playoffs.

The Polls are the most rigged fraudulent things around. Even worse than the political polls.


25 posted on 01/08/2014 10:13:57 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: Perdogg
"It is easy to establish a set of objective playoff standards."

No it isn't. The NFL setup rewards division winners even if they have mediocre records. The NCAA has about 4 times as many teams, in numerous conferences, and with very similar records, playing dissimilar opponents. The BCS was an attempt to computerize it, to objectify it, as much as possible, and people still bitched. You think any other system will be better? Next year, people will still bitch about the system, about who was left out, about who plays who, about the refs, the penalties, and blah blah blah.

This is just college football, and I'm tired of all the crap, as if it is really even possible to determine who is the best team, and how much it really matters in the grand scheme of things to determine that. You want an "objective system"? Ok, have every team in the country play every other team home-and-home, a 240 game schedule, and then a playoff, if it's that important to you. Then we'll have some separation - the 230-10 teams will clearly separate from the 203-37 teams.

Does the best team necessarily win the NCAA basketball tournament every year? No. It comes down to talent, seedings, and luck. Does hitting a 50-foot buzzer-beater mean you are the better team? Does hitting one more shot in one game mean that? Not necessarily.
26 posted on 01/08/2014 10:22:36 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Perdogg
It will be Notre Dame (which is not part of conference) plus three teams each year.

I'm not sure how much you watch college football, but Notre Dame has lost at least 3 games a year in 19 out of the last 20 seasons.

Their odds of getting into the playoff are actually pretty slim, especially when so many of the decision makers have conference affiliations, and are giving credit to conference winners.

The major issue is how the money will be divvied, and whether or not (or how often) the SEC gets two teams into the playoff, and thereby a much bigger chunk of the spoils. Make no mistake, the playoff is about getting more of the money to the top5 conferences.

27 posted on 01/08/2014 10:34:43 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: crusher2013

Exactly!


28 posted on 01/09/2014 1:43:29 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: crusher2013
I agree with you. You win the conference, you are in the playoffs. Can't get easier than that. As far as Notre Dame, well, they better join a conference or be left out in the ‘polar vortex’.
29 posted on 01/09/2014 1:43:33 AM PST by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: Perdogg
BCS - Playoffs - ...

"What difference, at this point, does it make?"

30 posted on 01/09/2014 2:22:06 AM PST by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: Perdogg
I still wished they used the current BCS ranking system so BCS #1 plays BCS #4 in one playoff and BCS #2 plays #3 in the other playoff.

But it's still way better than what we have now, especially what happened in the 2003 season when LSU won the BCS title and USC won the AP final #1 ranking and in the 2004 season when we ended up with three undefeated teams with title chances (USC, Oklahoma and Auburn), and the only reason why Auburn never had a chance was because both USC and Oklahoma started higher in the rankings at the start of the season and both went undefeated.

31 posted on 01/09/2014 4:45:05 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You mean like Texas paying a new coach $5 million a year? Or the likes of Saban/Stoops pulling $7 million? College football was co-opted a long time ago.


32 posted on 01/09/2014 6:49:11 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Objective? Is that why an 11 - 5 team has to play an away game against a team that went 9 - 7?

In the NFL conferences should be realigned every year, top to bottom. That would be ‘objective’. ;-)

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Objective means that there is an inviolable method by which the playoff seedings are made. You can determine who gets what by an objective criteria.

Objective does not necessarily mean ranked in order of 1-32.


33 posted on 01/09/2014 7:29:18 AM PST by dmz
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We’ll have college football until Spring Training starts.

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That would be a dream come true.

I only pay attention to baseball and football.


34 posted on 01/09/2014 7:31:24 AM PST by dmz
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To: redshawk

Yes, No special treatment for the Domers.

The system they have right now is so rigged. The new one isn’t much better. They want to keep the number of teams in the playoff low (4) so they can still manipulate the process.


35 posted on 01/09/2014 7:53:40 AM PST by crusher2013
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To: Resolute Conservative

That was a joke, son.


36 posted on 01/09/2014 12:33:32 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yep, so is paying a coach that much.


37 posted on 01/09/2014 12:40:04 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: dinoparty

If you don’t really give a crap why are you commenting?
There is nothing wrong with being a football fan. No one is forcing you to watch it.


38 posted on 01/09/2014 4:13:26 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Perdogg

Isn’t the author’s name Rachel Lu?


39 posted on 01/09/2014 4:16:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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