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Jahi McMath’s Health “Improving” After She Gets Feeding, Breathing Tubes
Life News ^ | Dave Andrusko

Posted on 01/09/2014 9:34:58 PM PST by Morgana

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To: Vermont Lt

Thanks Vermont Lt (((((Hugs)))))


101 posted on 01/11/2014 11:24:31 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Popman
Her brain is DEAD.

So is Joe Biden brain dead and he is VP...

That is true AND funny

102 posted on 01/11/2014 11:30:41 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: HamiltonJay

No. The cadaver’s heart is pumping due to machines.


103 posted on 01/11/2014 12:20:49 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Not exactly, she was perhaps is on a ventilator, but her heart is still pumping au natural. So her autonomic nervous system is still functioning at some level. That’s the crux of the issue.. she’s declared brain dead but not heart dead.

She has been on a ventilator the whole time. But her heart is not beating au natural. It continues to beat because of the artificial respiration. The heart has its own internal pacemaker which is not dependent on the brain.

Why does the heart keep beating if a person is brain dead?

The heart has its own pacemaker independent of the brain. As long as it has oxygen, it continues to beat. The heart could actually be removed from the body, placed in saline solution, given oxygen, and still continue to beat. This is why although the brain is dead, the heart continues to beat.

104 posted on 01/11/2014 12:25:35 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Jim Noble; funfan
If she is in fact brain dead (which seems likely, but not proven in a public forum), then the lawyers and advocates pushing for ventilation of a dead body should be ashamed of themselves.

The family’s attorney Christopher Dolan and his political contributions:

2012

2010

2008

Picture of his office lobby. Why do those signs look familiar?

While I don’t doubt that Jahi’s mother and family are grief stricken, I do question their lawyer’s motivation in all this. There is currently a $250k cap in CA on non-monetary damages but there is also an ballot initiative to raise that cap.

Meanwhile, an advocacy group is facing sharp criticism for using Jahi's case to try to raise money.

The nonprofit Consumer noted in an email solicitation that it fights for patient safety for families like Jahi's and that it had drafted a proposed November ballot measure that would raise medical malpractice award limits in California.

Dolan, the family attorney, is a board member of Consumer Attorneys of California, the prime group funding the ballot initiative to lift the cap on pain and suffering awards. But he said he was dismayed that Consumer Watchdog used Jahi's name as a fundraising tool.

"Using Jahi's case as an example is wrong and that is not what this case is about," he said in a text message to the Associated Press.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/national_world&id=9387183

Yea, right, color me skeptical.

Don’t forget that even if a lawyer like Dolan loses, he never misses a big fat paycheck. Even if the family wins a malpractice suit and compensatory damages but only collects 250K for their pain and suffering (and how much will Dolan take from that?), and since I’m pretty sure the bills and expenses are mounting and since she’s been declared dead, I would think that any insurance has stopped paying and the hospital is going to fight against having to eat the costs of keeping a body alive after being declared dead, he’s going to sue for not only the family’s expenses but for his own fees to be paid.

105 posted on 01/11/2014 1:01:15 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Morgana

The lawyer is a cretin who should be disbarred.


106 posted on 01/11/2014 8:11:53 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

She is dead and is decomposing.

You can’t murder a person who is already dead.


107 posted on 01/11/2014 8:15:49 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: ZX12R

Because she is dead. There is no blood flow to her brain.


108 posted on 01/11/2014 8:21:50 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: Talisker

Sharon was in a coma whereas Jahi is brain dead.

The two are not the same.

Brain dead equals dead.


109 posted on 01/11/2014 8:25:53 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Sharon was in a coma whereas Jahi is brain dead.

The two are not the same.

Brain dead equals dead.

Brain dead equals a slew of definitions, depending on whether you want to acknowledge certain levels of brain functions as life signs, or whether you need someone to be dead so that they don't live and expose you to a gigantic lawsuit.

Just because the hospital is using morgue terminology doesn't exactly explain why a judge allowed Jahi's parents to continue treatment elsewhere. It stands to reason that evidence was presented to the judge that indicated that Jahi is, in fact, still alive.

110 posted on 01/11/2014 9:57:36 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Scoutmaster
I have no problem with them removing cardiopulmonary support, if she cannot function without it, than she is indeed dead.

My problem was if her heart and lungs were working and she wasn't being fed.

111 posted on 01/12/2014 5:52:57 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

True, if her heart and lungs are not working on their own, she is indeed dead.


112 posted on 01/12/2014 5:54:02 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Understood.

If you're interested in a copy of the report on the apnea test performed on Jahi by Dr. Paul Fisher, then here it is.

113 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:21 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Talisker

She is not alive. Several doctors and a coroner declared her dead. She is decomposing.

This entire thing is mind-blowing.


114 posted on 01/12/2014 12:46:16 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

“Decomposing”?!

LOL, shills always go too far.

It’s one of their fingerprints.


115 posted on 01/12/2014 1:30:11 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
My problem was if her heart and lungs were working and she wasn't being fed.

I'll need to search among the many medical articles, physician blogs, and other information I've bookmarked since researching the death of Ms. McMath. Suffice it to say, nutrition doesn't work to maintain the body or restore the life of a body that has suffered total brain death.

116 posted on 01/12/2014 1:56:04 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Talisker; POWERSBOOTHEFAN
She's decomposing
117 posted on 01/12/2014 3:21:58 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Talisker; Scoutmaster
LOL, shills always go too far.

~sigh...No one is shilling. It happens when there is brain death. Please read some of the articles posted up thread

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2014/01/jahi-mcmath-merely-dead-or-really-most.html

Here is just one of the articles.

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While normal brain tissue is firm, a brain that has been dead shows progressive autolysis, a form of biological self-destruction. “It will almost be like soup,” Dr. Harry Vinters, chief of neuropathology at UCLA, recently explained to me. He is the co-author of a major textbook on the pathology of the brain and has performed almost a hundred autopsies on the brain-dead.

“It really depends on how long they have been on the ventilator. If they have been on the ventilator for two days, then the brain is grey and softened. But if, for example, a family has had difficulty deciding what they want to do and the patient has been kept on the ventilator for two to three weeks, then there’s tremendous autolysis. The brain gets very swollen, soft, and mushy.” The nerve tissue can become so friable that fragments of brain from the head will break off and float down the spinal column. “Sometimes I’ll be looking at a slide of the spinal cord,” says Vinters, “and I’ll see fragments of cerebellum floating around in the specimen.”

118 posted on 01/12/2014 5:15:03 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Talisker

What are you talking about? The girl has been dead for a month so it stands to reason that she would be decomposing.

Like the doctor said, her body is deteriorating.


119 posted on 01/12/2014 5:23:54 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: Drango

This doctor sure has a strong stomach!


120 posted on 01/12/2014 5:46:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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