Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

WHY YOUNG BLACK MALES ARE NOT GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL
spectator.org ^ | August 23, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 01/11/2014 6:09:14 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

A new report from the Schott Foundation reveals that only 47 percent of black male students earn a high school diploma on time. Ironically, this report came out shortly after Judge Vaughn Walker ruled regarding Proposition 8 in California. If the statements on which Judge Walker based his ruling are "facts," how do we explain what is happening educationally to boys in the black community where a large majority are growing up without fathers?

Nancy Pearcey, in an article on American Thinker, identified certain "facts that Judge Walker claims are now established by the 'evidence' presented in his courtroom." Those "facts" presumably will be deemed as "truth" far beyond the courtroom. Among those "facts," the following three are especially relevant for young black boys' futures:

• "Gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage."

• "The gender of a child's parent is not a factor in a child's adjustment."

• "Having both a male and a female parent does not increase the likelihood that a child will be well-adjusted."

Those three general false principles that Judge Walker supposedly established in his arguments in favor of so-called "same-sex marriage" are equally faulty when applied to the more than 40 percent of today's children who are born to single mothers. They are doubly relevant when the majority of those children are black.

Here are some irrefutable facts that Judge Walker and his ilk need to ponder.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: blackmales; homosexualagenda; teens
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-124 next last
Old but still interesting in light of Holder's sudden interest in the education of black students.
1 posted on 01/11/2014 6:09:14 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

You cannot declare, legislate or rule that a destructive environment, peer-pressure group, lifestyle, lack of morals or humanity are ‘normal’ and all acts thereof should be and can be excused. Removing the consequences does not make the act(s) acceptable.


2 posted on 01/11/2014 6:13:28 AM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Too busy knocking old women to the pavement???? Killing old men for pocket change??? Too stupid????? I give up…..what’s the answer?


3 posted on 01/11/2014 6:14:47 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
These are the children and grandchildren of LBJ.
4 posted on 01/11/2014 6:15:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Doc Savage

“what’s the answer?”

A teacher told me he publically complemented a black male on his excellent performance. The other blacks beat him up so badly he was out several days. When he came back he never participated or turned in any work again. None of the black males turned in any work either. (This is approximately what he said. I don’t recall the exact wording.) When he talked to them about their performance they said if they did the work they’d be playing white.

You can’t overcome that sort of cultural view. Not when it’s viciously self-enforced.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 6:18:48 AM PST by Gen.Blather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

They can’t figure out how to keep there pants from falling down. I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t go to school if my pants kept falling down.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 6:19:02 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Most of them probably won’t graduate their 20s either.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 6:19:30 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

They’re not graduating FROM high school, either.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 6:19:47 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks

Two choices- prison or EBT for life!


9 posted on 01/11/2014 6:20:40 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Because they’re dumber than a box of rocks.


10 posted on 01/11/2014 6:22:08 AM PST by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Awgie

Here I am trying to have a serious, thought-provoking conversation, and you make me crack up laughing. Bad you!


11 posted on 01/11/2014 6:24:21 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Schott Foundation, nuff sed, thier shot. Looking for excuses to skirt RESPONSIBILITY! Irresponsible parents breed irresponsible children, politicians and thier agendas encourage, fund and support thier lifestyle and thier leaders are the black political plantation owners who are feeding off of them and securing thier positions at the big table


12 posted on 01/11/2014 6:25:02 AM PST by ronnie raygun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

They were better off before Brown v. Board of Education.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 6:25:10 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

When your role model Prez of the US is a thug community organizer you figure bein a thug community organizer may be good enuff. Get you some face with Beyonce and Jayzee, and lots a time on the links, too.


14 posted on 01/11/2014 6:26:39 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Plus, there’s the unmentionable IQ issue.


15 posted on 01/11/2014 6:26:50 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Americans who are black are not important to the Democrats. Their votes are. The Americans who are black think they can manipulate the Democrat politicians with their votes. This ensures that the Democrats will give them the minimum necessary to get their votes. The Americans who are black and the Democrat politicians see voting as a business transaction. The Americans who are black “sell” their votes to the Democrat politicians in return for government benefits. The Democrat politicians are selling government benefits to the Americans who are black in return for their votes. It is then in the best interests of the Democrat politicians to provide the minimum amount of government benefits to the Americans who are black. When voting becomes a business, then the Democrat politicians see a percentage of those government benefits as being a cost of business that they should be paid for. The Democrat politicians will budget/ration government benefits in order to provide themselves with more money and to buy votes from other groups.


16 posted on 01/11/2014 6:29:07 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cowboy Bob
All this can be traced to LBJ's “War on Poverty.”
Before 1964, the percentage of American births out of wedlock was about 6 percent.
Today, it's 41 percent.
17 posted on 01/11/2014 6:29:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: coloradan

We will be having this or a similar conversation 100 years from now.


18 posted on 01/11/2014 6:29:45 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Listening to representatives of the race hustlers and their disciples ... it appears they believe that graduating from High School is for whitey.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 6:30:06 AM PST by dartuser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gen.Blather

That’s easy to figure out.

With no father, they grow up without any model of real masculinity.

All authority in their lives is female.

Their only way to be non-female is to rebel against authority.

The whole thing about “not acting white” is their way of saying “not acting female.”

I would bet anything that when 90% of black children had a father, nobody talked about getting an education, marrying, and having a family as “acting white.”

It’s a funny thing how the “legacy of slavery” (i.e., high illegitimacy, weak or no marriages) didn’t kick in until the 1960s.


20 posted on 01/11/2014 6:30:16 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

A crowd loves a crowd. If it’s not cool or if it makes you too white, they won’t graduate. There is so much negative conformity going on.


21 posted on 01/11/2014 6:31:17 AM PST by DungeonMaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: coloradan

Yet there are some very smart black men. Dr. Ben Carson, Col. Allen West are famous but I know there are more. I work with two black male nurses and they are smart. I still think it has more to do with parenting than IQ numbers. Dr. Carson’s mother insisted that he read and wrote book reports even though she could barely read and had a third grade education. I believe our own government has done more to keep blacks down, especially black men, than biology has.


22 posted on 01/11/2014 6:32:01 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Gen.Blather

That same cultural view is what Obama is now espousing with the inequality meme. Let’s beat up on those who choose to excel. What a nightmare!


23 posted on 01/11/2014 6:33:27 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
"...sudden interest in the education of black students."

I would never have thought to equate what Holder is doing with education. It seems he is more interested in social justice through more tolerance of black militance and bad behavior, the results being anti education in the traditional sense of learning useful, productive subjects and information that might help black children succeed in life.

The social engineering of marriage and the family institution, or what would be more aptly called the social overthrowing of marriage and family, is also anti education. It is difficult to look objectively at what the left is doing and not conclude they are producing brutes of destruction, like using shoddy materials in the construction of society's highrise.

24 posted on 01/11/2014 6:34:51 AM PST by pallis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arthur McGowan

“All authority in their lives is female.”

I read about a game preserve in Africa. The young male elephants were attacking and killing the hippos. The game manager imported some older adult male elephants. When the younger elephants attacked the hippos the older elephants would beat the sh*t out of them. Soon, all was harmony and none of them bothered the hippos.


25 posted on 01/11/2014 6:34:55 AM PST by Gen.Blather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Arthur McGowan

LOL...Zing! I detest these British degradations of the English language, too. Did you go to hospital recently? Have you been to university? Interestingly, in US English, it’s acceptable to say “I went to college” but it is proper to say “I went to THE university.” The inconsistencies of our language!


26 posted on 01/11/2014 6:35:08 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
What? Be like Whitey? Gotta hang with the gangs to keep it real, man.

Stupid.

27 posted on 01/11/2014 6:35:14 AM PST by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Doc Savage

You forgot the argument I heard once... “why would young black males want to work for a fast food company or something when there was so much more money to be made selling drugs on the street?”


28 posted on 01/11/2014 6:36:48 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blueunicorn6

Democrats are the new slave owners. They know it, too. It’s their bread and butter.


29 posted on 01/11/2014 6:37:05 AM PST by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Titles like this really annoy me. Nobody can “Graduate High School.” You can, however, “Graduate FROM High School.”


30 posted on 01/11/2014 6:39:17 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
It's pretty simple: 70 percent plus of black males are born into fatherless homes...

Mom is either too busy working to make ends meet or too busy scamming the US taxpayer...

Since there is no black successful male adults to model themselves after, black youth identify with the thug culture, rap, basketball, NFL, drugs, pricey sneakers...

An education is an after thought...why won't it be when you can be an aspiring rapper, basketball player or drug dealer...

31 posted on 01/11/2014 6:39:36 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

Add to that the fact the school system is run by blacks in big cities, that dumb down the education they receive. My husband spent 20 yrs as a JR. College Prof, for computer and electronic science. His non-city schooled students, foreign students, knew their math. The inner city school students who graduated with A/B were mostly black, had to have REMEDIAL math to do the course. He has heard it has grown worse since you now have the hispanics in the mix, he retired 7 yrs ago, but keeps up with his younger teaching peers, who are about to retire with in the next few years.


32 posted on 01/11/2014 6:39:38 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Arthur McGowan

Agreed.


33 posted on 01/11/2014 6:40:10 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

All the ‘bad stuff’ that is going on in America can be traced to what is going on in Washington, DC and the incompetence of political leadership.


34 posted on 01/11/2014 6:40:27 AM PST by mulligan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Walker sounds like a staunch utilitarian here. Without looking at the deeper dynamics of what makes humanity go, he tries to figure out what would help there to be more families, which he does figure correctly are good things. So if they need to be “gay” to have more of them, he goes for that. Of course that’s only a surface view. But I want to chide the good guys a little, too, and ask them if they have been skimming the surface more than God would want them to. Maybe Walker is not the only skimmer in this picture.

Let’s get good and radical here. Every family on earth gets its name from God the Father. That’s the foundation of the family. The makeup is only the means. You probably could have something like a Jonathan-and-David relationship bringing up foster kids, it would not be ideal in the lack of a mother, but it would be better than nothing. Now Jonathan and David were chaste. “Gays” like to liken themselves to that pair, who were such buddies they would even share their clothes in love, something that would strike most of us as icky. But they were chaste; this was the agape love of the Lord that moved them. Anyhow, most actual “gays” are not just sinners trying to feel their way towards God’s best for them. (If they were, they would soon move past that stage, realizing that their masculine identities have a divinely blessed purpose beyond self gratification.) They’ve settled upon this and say that God wants them to just sit there, in their spiritual shackles. And that peeves God mightily.

THIS is the deep picture. And it, or even a simplification, seems to be lacking in modern Christian attempts to defend keeping families traditional. And so maybe shallow thinking is inviting more shallow thinking more than they realize. The heterosexual male who seeks to offer purity to the Lord, either single or married, will be seen to have a whole host of virtues. Homosexuals tend to be snotty and selfish (where do you think the “dishy” stereotype came from). If defending heterosexual families (even single men) to the world, don’t forget those virtues, and they can be empirically proven. The unsaved world wants to forget virtues and focus on airy theory just because they are so proud of those airy theories.


35 posted on 01/11/2014 6:44:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

C’mon, all- you know the answer: RACISM!


36 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:40 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Anecdotal evidence of smart black men is unimportant when millions of kids are at issue. I could add to your list Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell, both of whom I think are brilliant. But, that simply doesn’t matter to the question of an entire population having a mean IQ that is many points below 100, and the subject at hand is academic achievement. Good parenting can no more make millions of 70-IQ kids graduate high school than it can make millions of 100-IQ kids master calculus.


37 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:42 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: grimalkin

Yes. I’m afraid that you are quite correct. A cursory examination of our nation’s history will show that voting was never intended to be a commercial transaction. Voting was to select the person for a job who would get the most efficiency and effectiveness from the hard-earned taxpayer’s dollar.


38 posted on 01/11/2014 6:46:17 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Arthur McGowan
It’s a funny thing how the “legacy of slavery” (i.e., high illegitimacy, weak or no marriages) didn’t kick in until the 1960s.

Thanks to LBJ and "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for two hundred years".

39 posted on 01/11/2014 6:47:45 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: coloradan

Thomas Sowells book BlLACK REDNECKS AND WHITE LIBERALS (great book, by the way) destroys this and many other myths. If all things are equal, blacks are, too. Unusual cultural ideas change soooo many aspects of our lives.


40 posted on 01/11/2014 6:48:24 AM PST by Imnidiot (This space for Rent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

- “Certain” ethnic groups were born and are still born today with a brain that is only 85% of the size of other humans.

- You may not think that is “fair” or “PC” to say that - but it is alleged to be because others had a much higher intake of meat proteins early in their evolving history.

- Note that has not changed over time and neither have alleged “modern humans” from certain regions changed in their pigmentation over time and/or since they allegedly migrated North.

- Some of those individuals excel in intelligence and abilities - but they are the exception. Both you and I know of some that do; they reject the tribal victimhood and violence/knockout culture of “….maybe a little blow.”

- We might think of a certain surgeon or a certain retired military officer as being among the exceptional.

- Next I shall explain the Islamics: They are insane. Period.


41 posted on 01/11/2014 6:51:05 AM PST by devolve ("He's just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." "Barry of Bungle" "Homo Electus")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: umgud

No we won’t.

What is being laid in place is a destruction of Anerican ideals, traditions and its very foundation.

Powers that are getting a toehold are making sure we will no longer be the Superpower and that the strength of America and her citizens are being extinguished and exterminated.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 6:51:08 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Cowgirl of Justice

Yes


43 posted on 01/11/2014 6:51:59 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: devolve

“the Islamics: They are insane. Period.”

No. They serve the god of Darkness.


44 posted on 01/11/2014 6:54:39 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012
I'm sorry, all this talk by conservatives about "bad" schools causing poor academic performance by black students is bilge. Poor students cause poor schools. Read Robert Weissbergs's "Poor Students, Not Poor Schools" to get the lowdown.

The basic, unavoidable fact is the black underclass drags down the rest of the black students and competent blacks elsewhere. The children of the black underclass are low IQed/academics- disinterested persons who will never be salvaged. Those children are your knockout game thugs, chronic adult criminals and baby mamas who are grandmothers before they're thirty.

The cost to society in dollar terms of the black underclass is in the hundreds of billions if not close to a trillion annually. Time to eradicate the black underclass through sterilization. Or like another poster said, 100 years from now we'll be talking about the same problem.

45 posted on 01/11/2014 6:57:06 AM PST by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JimRed

Whether or not LBJ intended this aspect of it (he may have simply viewed himself as a general do gooder) his legacy really cemented it by doling the funds out in a manner that encouraged an entitlement rather than a gratitude mentality. Faceless bureaucrats. If you never see who cut you that check, you lose the human connection. They don’t see the tax payers who, even if they all concurred on this means of bestowing benefits so as to skirt the “coercion” issue, surely would want to see those benefits used for what is wise, as a hand up and not a handout.

I almost don’t want to mention it because it has my eyes rolling at near warp speed to think of it, but I don’t believe any Obamaphone is ever turned back off! Not if someone keeps using it. I have one from a time when I had fallen on hard times, and I used it like I was supposed to, being high minded about such things. But I kept it around for convenience’ sake (their website says I am supposed to keep it), sometimes buying my own supplemental time in months of heavy usage. After screaming their heads off in email to me in December to recertify (which I didn’t) they renewed the phone minutes in January ANYHOW.

PUT a human face back on charity, even if it is done via welfare which has its own moral pitfalls. Have some social worker, even if a dweeb, go see these folks. That would go a long way towards curbing abuse, IMHO.


46 posted on 01/11/2014 6:58:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Imnidiot

Sowell is negative on rednecks, which this here positive redneck greatly begs to differ from. In general, negative arguments are weak, and this is not the zenith of Sowell’s works by any means.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 6:59:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: combat_boots

- Serving the god of Darkness might be considered to be insane…..


48 posted on 01/11/2014 7:00:27 AM PST by devolve ("He's just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." "Barry of Bungle" "Homo Electus")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; seekthetruth; oswegodeee; Chigirl 26; ...
Let's add another facet to this discussion.

Lack of religious education has borne fruit, hasn't it!

Most of us had parochial school or Sunday School or catechism or confirmation instruction over periods of time when we grew up.

How many black yutes enjoy this opportunity or privilege today? How many even want to....or how many of them have a parent/parents who do NOT insist on at least SOME religious training? I'd love to see the statistics.

It's now do your own thing, baby....and if it feels good, do it, even if it's harmful to yourself and/or others.

Why SHOULDN'T you do "your own thing"! There's no "restrictive" religious authority....or religious "don'ts" anymore, is there!

Even replicas of the Ten Commandments have been expunged from public view across the fruited plain!

Then we have a president, the supposed moral leader of the country, who doesn't go to church anymore, not even for photo ops, not even on Christmas Eve or Christmas...... it might interfere with his golf outings.

Too many ministers, priests and rabbis as a whole today are mute on the lack of religiosity, religious education and religious discipline among youth, especially black males.

All too many of them appear to be assiduously making their houses of worship and religious education facilities more "progressive", "modern" and into jivey social centers.....with less instruction and less "thou shalt not" in order to (hopefully) lure in the young people....

(....and it ain't working, McGee).

Leni

49 posted on 01/11/2014 7:01:21 AM PST by MinuteGal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Imnidiot

But, all things aren’t equal, and The Bell Curve destroys the notion that ethnic groups have equal mean IQs. Asians come out slightly ahead, and blacks come out significantly behind. Plus, it’s genetic. There is overwhelming evidence.


50 posted on 01/11/2014 7:01:36 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-124 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson