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A Brief History Of The Demise Of Battle Bots
Popular Science ^ | 06.19.2013 | By Kelsey D. Atherton

Posted on 01/11/2014 7:30:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

Blame the wedges!

Robot battling was poised to become a true sport of the future. It had all the right elements: mad science, gladiatorial combat, plucky garage inventors, and televised action. So what killed it? A brutally effective, utterly simple machine called the wedge bot.

The wedge-style bot killed robot wars because it was invincible, which in the end made it boring. Yesterday SB Nation published a fascinating full history of BattleBots, which is a great, though giant, read.

But the mechanical evil that is the wedge bot deserves special attention. Competitions originally focused on robots using arms and blades and blunt objects to bash and slash and break each other apart. Wedge Bots had one simple, cunning attack: slide a wedge under another robot, flip it onto its back, and watch it flail about like a dying cockroach. Here is the timeline of how it managed to make killer robot duels boring.

1994 An exhibition and competition of garage-built robot warriors begins in San Francisco. Wedge bots are mercifully absent.

1995 The wedge bot premiers! Compared with its blade-swinging, hammer-bashing competitors, it is a unique and clever alternative. No one knew what to make of it. It won handily, with speed and novelty making up for its admittedly dull design. Watch the death of the sport below:

February 1998 BBC creates a "Robot Wars" TV show that lasts for five years. Wedges are a constant presence.

August 2000 Televised robot competition "BattleBots" starts airing on Comedy Central. By the time the show ended in 2002, "robot Darwinism," the term coined by battling robot pioneer Pete Abrahamson, has left the field with only three major robot archetypes: 1. Lifters, which had wedged sides and could use forklift-like prongs to flip pure wedges. 2. Spinners, which were smooth, circular wedges with blades on their bottom side for disabling and breaking lifters. 3. Pure wedges, which could still flip spinners.

What should have been an exciting, diverse sport is stuck at rock paper scissors.

February 2013 Noting the design dead-end created by "BattleBots" constraints on weight, size, and power, SyFy channel show "Robot Fighting League" premiers, with an important, wedge-proof requirement: all robots must be bipedal.

Not only does "Robot Fighting League" ban wedge robots, but all of the machines are created by the same designer. If robot Darwinism made the game boring, maybe robot intelligent design can keep it intresting.


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1 posted on 01/11/2014 7:30:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

How about rules and design parameters? Just think’n.


2 posted on 01/11/2014 7:41:51 PM PST by slouper
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To: Jet Jaguar

3 posted on 01/11/2014 7:43:10 PM PST by Redcitizen (Never bring a tank to a Chuck Norris fight.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I used to love BattleBots. Jamie and Adam from Mythbusters had some great entries. But yeah, wedges made it boring in the end.


4 posted on 01/11/2014 7:49:52 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Jet Jaguar

With a bipedal rule I foresee low centers of gravity and large feet.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 7:51:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Agree.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 7:52:23 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Time to resume the games and let Google in. It would get a LOT more interesting with recent developments.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 7:53:05 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jet Jaguar

If they want to make it interesting and drive them to develop new forms they should ditch the arena format. If you put them outside on varied terrain like water, sand, mud, rock, etc it could become very interesting.

In fact I’d put multiple teams on the battlefield and let them go at it with multiple bots for each team.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 7:58:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

GREENPEACE BOTS


9 posted on 01/11/2014 7:59:44 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Robot battling was poised to become a true sport of the future. It had all the right elements: mad science, gladiatorial combat, plucky garage inventors, and televised action. So what killed it? A brutally effective, utterly simple machine called the wedge bot.

The wedge-style bot killed robot wars because it was invincible, which in the end made it boring. Yesterday SB Nation published a fascinating full history of BattleBots, which is a great, though giant, read.

But the mechanical evil that is the wedge bot deserves special attention. Competitions originally focused on robots using arms and blades and blunt objects to bash and slash and break each other apart. Wedge Bots had one simple, cunning attack: slide a wedge under another robot, flip it onto its back, and watch it flail about like a dying cockroach. Here is the timeline of how it managed to make killer robot duels boring.

I don't remember the wedge-bots being the death knell of the program, although yes they were nigh-invincible. It was the Whyachi 'bots that IMO killed the program. Barely moveable heavyweight "shufflebots" with constantly-spinning hammers that made sure any opposition left the ring in pieces:


10 posted on 01/11/2014 8:04:34 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Battle bots was alot of fun to watch for awhile.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 8:06:13 PM PST by skyman
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To: Jet Jaguar

You get the feeling that there’s an important lesson in this, but I’ll be darned if I can put my finger on what it is.


12 posted on 01/11/2014 8:07:23 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Robot Fighting League” is stupid

I loved “Robot Wars”


13 posted on 01/11/2014 8:11:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

make it an outdoor sport, allow flying robots


14 posted on 01/11/2014 8:12:00 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cripplecreek

I totally agree with that idea


15 posted on 01/11/2014 8:12:34 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Yardstick
"You get the feeling that there’s an important lesson in this, but I’ll be darned if I can put my finger on what it is."

1. We need to protect the losing designs because they are endangered species.

2. We need to make sure every robot has a positive experiences and leaves with its self-esteem intact (even if its gears aren't).

;-)

16 posted on 01/11/2014 8:13:14 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The wedge won on the even (flat) playing field. Now, bring back the games with un-even playing fields. Also, quad-copters in play; that would be cool..


17 posted on 01/11/2014 8:14:46 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: MV=PY
1. We need to protect the losing designs because they are endangered species.
2. We need to make sure every robot has a positive experiences and leaves with its self-esteem intact (even if its gears aren't).

3. It's all fun and games until someone loses a $200 actuator.

18 posted on 01/11/2014 8:16:09 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Jet Jaguar
August 2000 Televised robot competition "BattleBots" starts airing on Comedy Central.

A Network now only known for smirking, snarky leftists.

19 posted on 01/11/2014 8:24:09 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Yardstick
Lack of imagination or technological lag:

A cube design with wheels on each face, or movable ones.

A sphere with helper wheels, unscoopable.

A killer bot inside the flipped bot.

An EMP bot.

Good grief, people, use your imagination and quit whining/
20 posted on 01/11/2014 8:27:39 PM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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