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Percy Harvin Continues NFL's Nightmare Postseason Of Concussions
Forbes ^ | 1/11/14 | Dan Diamond

Posted on 01/14/2014 5:08:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Two games, two players, and two very different decisions sum up the NFL’s still-uneasy relationship with concussions—and highlight why the problem isn’t anywhere close to going away for the league.

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1 posted on 01/14/2014 5:08:23 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I have read that they were safer with the old leather helmets.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 5:14:00 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: freedumb2003

Perhaps safer in that the game was played differently.

The robust helmet and facemask have certainly upped the intensity and location of impact.

Plus faster, stronger, and heavier players.


3 posted on 01/14/2014 5:17:33 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: freedumb2003; Perdogg
Some players are simply more susceptible to concussions. Think Al Toon, who thankfully retired becoming a rambling incoherent like Muhammed Ali.

Harvin needs to retire as well.

4 posted on 01/14/2014 5:19:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: freedumb2003
The NFL should bring them back. Either that or start handing out serious fines to any defensive player who leads with his helmet...regardless of where the ball carrier is hit with it.

You don't see high school or college athletes tackling like that. It is a culture thing inside of Professional football. They have been taught to hit to damage or injure. And it's not right. Proper tackling techniques need to be brought back and taught again and those coaches who are teaching and advocating the headhunting need to be expurgated from the league. Need proof that this is what is happening? Look at the whole 'scandal' in the NEw Orleans Saints organization a couple seasons ago.

Other than that, I have no strong feelings about the subject.

5 posted on 01/14/2014 5:23:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They hammered Harvin. I don’t want to say they were targeting him, but for a while there, I thought the Saints still had Greg Williams on their staff.

gif of the two hits here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/seahawks-percy-harvin-concussion-2014-1


6 posted on 01/14/2014 5:26:44 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Ouch....
the end zone one didn’t seem too bad, but the other one is an artillery shot.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 5:29:48 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not true. I know a kid who suffered multiple concussions during their high school football years. Because he was a “star” player the whole system wanted and expected him to play. He will graduate this spring

I chewed the kid’s parents out and told the kid he needed to think about his long term health not his yards per carry. Good luck getting thru to the star player with parents that re live their H.S. years thru their kid

I worry that in a few years he will be sorting boards at the local lumberyard. Then they will call him a slacker, not seeing the damage they created


8 posted on 01/14/2014 5:52:06 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: MinorityRepublican

I would laugh but I can’t afford, to jinx my 49ers. I will laugh after the 49ers win the Super Bowl.

I will say i will enjoy seeing Seattle sit out the first round of the 2014 NFL draft.


9 posted on 01/14/2014 5:52:11 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Getting the same problems in the NHL. A friend says the protective gear actually has too hard a shell, transferring more impact energy. So the irony is that gear designed to provide more protectioon is actually more dangerous.


10 posted on 01/14/2014 5:52:29 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

He really paid for his contributions last Saturday that was for sure.
I thought he would be out of the game after that first one.


11 posted on 01/14/2014 5:56:03 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Harvin needs to retire as well.

Harvin was great at UF, but after seeing that hit, I really fear for him long-term. I hope for his sake he retires, and has a happy life. It gets harder and harder to enjoy the game, knowing the long-term health implications for the players.

12 posted on 01/14/2014 5:56:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

Leather or some sort of other helemt needs to be the norm. When you are protected like they are with that hard shell and steel, it’s way too easy to just lead with their heads. more than half of the tackles these days aren’t even with their arms. They just go flying in there.


13 posted on 01/14/2014 5:58:35 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: vpintheak

I would be curious at the incidences of concussions for Rugby players.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 5:59:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Football is already becoming unwatchable.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 6:21:30 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Luke21

when you’re not very big and play with reckless abandon, this happens.

Rush’s prediction will come soon.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 6:37:43 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s all about leftist fags and feminists emasculating males who enjoy participating in and watching football, boxing, etc. May they all go to Hell.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 6:38:18 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: MinorityRepublican

Harvin is very talented, but I questioned his longevity when he came out of UF because he is not very big and he took too many hits. Another play of similar build and talent is Desean Jackson of Philadephia who is about the same build and lightning quick and he has gotten blasted more than once and I question how long he will last.

The reverse of that is a player like Darren Sproles or Santana Moss. Both are very small by NFL standards, but they both seem to survive the beatings.

I agree with the poster talking about teaching tackling techniques. Proper form tackling is wrapping up and taking them down - not using your body as a blunt force missile. The irony is that you see as many DB’s lay themselves out trying for these knockout blows as you do receivers!

The NFL is a very rough game and it will always be like that, but the league must continue to modify play or they risks the entire business for the sake of hard hits.


18 posted on 01/14/2014 6:54:32 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: dfwgator

My daughter’s then boyfriend lost an appointment to West Point because of a hs rugby concussion.


19 posted on 01/14/2014 6:58:20 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Jamaal Charles removal showed how extreme this “cautious” approach has become. And it is all driven by the NFL’s fear of LAWYERS.


20 posted on 01/14/2014 7:16:26 PM PST by montag813
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To: volunbeer
Harvin is very talented, but I questioned his longevity when he came out of UF because he is not very big and he took too many hits

And he gets migraines.

I think all football helmets should have soft plastic and foam and not a hard shell and without a face mask or eye shield.

The shoulder pads should be soft plastic, good for protection, not for a weapon.

Without a face mask you have more broken noses and stitched lips but less serious damage.

In addition, the players would automatically cut down on head to head contact.

21 posted on 01/14/2014 7:54:06 PM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: dfwgator

It low because the players don’t like to hurt their heads.


22 posted on 01/14/2014 8:26:43 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I don’t think anyone could go through that without a concussion. NO hasn’t changed their ways.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 8:34:40 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: MinorityRepublican

We can go to the moon and back. Send rovers to Mars and we can’t make a protective helmet? How about memory foam helmets? I’m totally serious. The hard outside shell of helmets should be removed. It CAUSES more injuries than it prevents.


24 posted on 01/14/2014 11:59:13 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The leading with a helmet penalty is bogus. I cannot count the number of times I saw a RB lower his head and run into a defensive player this last weekend and it was never called. It is only in place to aid the offense in scoring more which in the minds of the NFL (and fans) equates to a more exciting game and ticket sales.


25 posted on 01/15/2014 7:17:49 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Same way with hands to the face. When is the last time you saw the refs call a penalty to a running back or reciever for stiff arming a defender with their hand on their facemask.


26 posted on 01/15/2014 12:16:52 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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