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Halifax woman felt 'disgusting' after martial arts class separated by gender
TORONTO SUN ^ | JANUARY 15, 2014 | KRIS SIMS, QMI AGENCY

Posted on 01/15/2014 3:59:48 PM PST by rickmichaels

HALIFAX -- Politicians are scrambling to put a brave face on an ugly situation at a Halifax recreation centre.

Sonja Power, 17, was on the cusp of earning her black belt in Aikido at a Halifax dojo when a new man joined the class. He refused to be in contact with women or to spar with any of the female students.

Power and the other women were told to stay on one side of the room and not to approach the Muslim man to respect his faith.

"I felt like a second class citizen, that I was so disgusting and unworthy that this man doesn't even want to interact with me," Power told QMI Agency. "It doesn't make any sense, why would something you choose, your religion, trump something I'm born with, my gender, we wouldn't let a religion trump someone's race."

The incident happened more than a year ago and Power's mother, Michele Walsh, said she has contacted every level of government but was ignored. She said the sensei told her to "get used to" the gender separation.

A similar situation at York University reignited the issue.

"I don't think anybody's rights should be trampled, so as a person of faith and as a woman I would be offended by this on both sides," said Candice Bergen, minister of state for Social Development speaking in Halifax. "We've seen organizations across the country for decades being able to (compromise) there's no reason this organization and this individual not to be able to do that."

Religion and gender are both protected human rights.

The City of Halifax, which owns the recreation centre, refused to comment citing privacy concerns, but said the city tries to work out human rights concerns between the parties.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: aikido; canada; dojo; halifax; halifaxdojo; islam; muslim; muslims; waronwomen; women
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1 posted on 01/15/2014 3:59:48 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

I’d look at that particular religious quirk as more beneficial to the non-muslim.


2 posted on 01/15/2014 4:02:25 PM PST by skeeter
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To: rickmichaels

If he’s a muslim, I think the Government’s position will be “tough luck lady, his culture lets him discriminate against women.”


3 posted on 01/15/2014 4:02:33 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: rickmichaels

Learn to stand up to muslims while the cost is cheap or else get used to being ruled by them.


4 posted on 01/15/2014 4:02:35 PM PST by marron
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To: rickmichaels

She might be grateful for the distance.


5 posted on 01/15/2014 4:04:05 PM PST by lurk
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To: rickmichaels

I never had a problem with women in the classes (especially since they were usually *extremely* not guilty)... but they should definitely not be paired with men during sparing

as for the muslim, I don’t care. screw them.


6 posted on 01/15/2014 4:04:07 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: rickmichaels

He was just afraid he would get his ass kicked by a girl.


7 posted on 01/15/2014 4:04:20 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: rickmichaels

Why “respect” the Moslem faith? The Moslem respects no one else.


8 posted on 01/15/2014 4:05:22 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: rickmichaels

But “Curves” is totally OK to have no men.

I am not in any muzzie’s corner bit women can self-segregate based on sex (not gender), then why can’t they be segregated?

And of course, she has to throw in the usually, shrill, feminazi “I felt like a 2nd class citizen” instead of the more normal “God, what an a-hole! I don’t think I like this class anymore and will go to a different one.”

But it is funny to see worlds collide. I am not rooting for either of them but there can be only one winner.


9 posted on 01/15/2014 4:05:25 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: sten


The infidel and her mother.
10 posted on 01/15/2014 4:05:45 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: sten
...but they should definitely not be paired with men during sparing [sic]

Black belt candidate? In Aikido? You would be well-advised to reconsider your statement.

11 posted on 01/15/2014 4:07:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rickmichaels

I think that if a martial arts teacher wants to separate the sexes, he has a perfect right to.

On the other hand, if a martial arts class has always mixed the sexes, with the agreement of the teacher and the students, and then a Muslim comes along and demands they be separated, that’s a whole other matter.

I’d tell the Muslim that if he doesn’t like the way classes are run, he can go somewhere else.


12 posted on 01/15/2014 4:08:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rickmichaels
It doesn't make any sense, why would something you choose, your religion, trump something I'm born with, my gender, we wouldn't let a religion trump someone's race.

Ah, the tragedies of conflict between the protected classes! I need a program to help identify the players, perhaps a laminated card with a flowchart of the Hierarchy Of Oppression so we know whose rights trump whose. I have a hunch I could guess who'd be at the bottom.

13 posted on 01/15/2014 4:08:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: rickmichaels
Ah...waiting for their value to be determined, eh?

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14 posted on 01/15/2014 4:08:41 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: rickmichaels

Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Frontline ^ | Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 7:07:45 PM by engrpat..."Received this in a email today.///Thought I would pass it on for everyones information."
(from a soon to be released major work - see book credit at end)

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization:
Occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious rights," they also get the other components under the table.

Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non- Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace - there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%


Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons..."Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me
against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel."
-- Leon Uris, "The Haj"

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat..
www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

Oh, I think Americans figured out what Islam "is", a long time ago...

"The Koran demands perpetual war against all who deny Mahomet as the prophet of God" - John Quincy Adams
"Treachery and violence are taught as principles of Mohamet's religion" - John Quincy Adams
"While the merciless dogmas of Muhammad remain there can never be peace upon earth" - John Quincy Adams

We've been warned.

15 posted on 01/15/2014 4:09:11 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: freedumb2003
But it is funny to see worlds collide.

I agree.

I see it as simply a financial consideration for the facility. If they have enough demand for single-sex classes, run them. If they don't have enough demand to make it worthwhile, tell both sexes that they're going to have to associate or go somewhere else.

16 posted on 01/15/2014 4:09:16 PM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: Tax-chick

>>I see it as simply a financial consideration for the facility. <<

If I read the article correctly it is public facility so I don’t think financial concerns are at issue except for a lawsuit from one side or the other.


18 posted on 01/15/2014 4:11:11 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Jewbacca

She has no business sparing with men to start with. Men have to take it easy on her to make her feel good or either beat the hell out of her and kicked out of the class. I don’t usually side with Muslims, but this gal needs a reality check. She’s not a man.


19 posted on 01/15/2014 4:11:56 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Rather than love, than money, than fame, then give truth" ~ Henry David Thoreau)
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To: rickmichaels

Suck it up Power. Now you know what it’s like to be unfairly discriminated against in the name of political correctness.


20 posted on 01/15/2014 4:12:34 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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