Skip to comments.Nasa reveal plans for the biggest rocket ever made to take man to Mars..
Posted on 01/16/2014 5:20:49 AM PST by C19fan
It is set to become the largest rocket ever built, dwarfing the rockets that took man to the moon and paving the way for manned missions to Mars. Nasa today reveal stunning new pictures of its SLS (Space Launch System), which will eventually be capable of lifting 130 tonnes into orbit. The rocket will be used to ferry astronauts to the International Space Station, and to help us explore the outer reaches of the solar system. It is even hoped the craft could play a role in manned missions to Mars, being able to launch 'stepping stone' bases into orbit.
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Is it sustainable?
Can it be used to nuke Mecca?
If they don’t sink the continental shelf doing it!
Has NASA’s muslim outreach office announced a launch date for the Mars mission as yet? Didn’t think so.
The mighty Saturn V rocket that took the United States to the Moon had a lift capacity of 260,000 lb (120,000 kg) to low-Earth orbit. That’s 130 tons, or 116 “tonnes.”
US Won’t Lead New Manned Moon Landings, NASA Chief Says
NASA chief Charles Bolden says the space agency won’t be sending astronauts to land on the moon any time soon, according to press reports.
The U.S. space agency won’t lead the way back to the moon in the foreseeable future in order to maintain its focus on manned missions to an asteroid, and eventually Mars, Bolden said during a joint meeting of the Space Studies Board and the Aeronautics and Space Engineering Board last Thursday (April 4), according to a SpacePolitics.com report by Jeff Foust.
“NASA will not take the lead on a human lunar mission,” Foust quoted Bolden as saying. “NASA is not going to the moon with a human as a primary project probably in my lifetime. And the reason is, we can only do so many things.”
Instead, he said the focus would remain on human missions to asteroids and to Mars. “We intend to do that, and we think it can be done,” Bolden said.
Question...what are those three towers that surround the launch pad, and are the same height? I don't recall seeing anything like that for Saturn or the shuttle.
So in other words NASA is prepared to spend tens of billions of dollars to deliver a rocket probably 3 years late and more billions over budget that can do what the Saturn V could do?
We need to keep an eye on the moon.
It is close enough, China may develop it as a weapons base.
Just saying. Not likely, but we should not turn away from the largest, closest space neighbor we have.
Lightning towers. They are near every launch pad to deflect lightning strikes away from the vehicle.
Their was a story in one of the Florida papers this morning, the gist of it was the SLS (and NASA as a whole) faired really well under the buget passed by the House yesterday, NASA had request 1.7 Billion for construction of the SLS system in 2014, the Budget gave them 2.2 Billion....
May or may not have helped out with Apollo 12.
My niece is working on this program now.
I wonder about its carbon footprint?
The Saturn V couldn’t take a person to Mars.
As Archimedes once said, give me a rocket big enough and a website to watch the artist’s conception videos..... or something like that.
So that’s why Capricorn One failed.....
Designed to maintain the flow of cost-plus, no-bid contracts to all the companies that built the shuttle, and ensure that the return flow of campaign contributions will not be interrupted.
Yes I have. Very intense minute of comm. After Al Bean reconfigured the SEC to AUX, things calmed down and the crew literally laughed their way to orbit. Loved Pete Conrad’s comment about needing some more bad weather testing.
The only reason this rocket is being built at all is the incredible inertia of the enormous FedGov sow: once a program is started, politics makes it extremely hard to stop it. The power of incumbency, multiplied by media manipulation, gerrymandering, vote buying, and dirty tricks (traffic jams on election days) make it virtually impossible to stop any given politician, much less any Federal program.
There may be a rocket, but there will be no Mars mission.
That's the "gotcha" ... Obama's insisting only "renewable" fuel sources be used. Solar and Wind are at the top of the list (/humor)
There aren't any men like that left in the space program.
It could never be used to do the same for a Mars mission.
Have you seen pictures of their lunar surface cuff lists? They were laced with Playboy playmates and other humorous things. The guys in flight prep knew the Conrad and Bean well. In some of the comm from the moon, they can be heard laughing at some of the check list items. The 12 crew was a true crew that worked well together. The 15 and 17 crews were similar in makeup but not near as tight as 12 was. In fact, the 12 crew had their crew positions painted on their Vettes, CDR, LMP, CMP. Now, how cool was that?
“It could never be used to do the same for a Mars mission. “
Of course not, because moon launches require the ability to lift stuff into space, in contrast, a Mars launch requires the ability to lift stuff into space.
The word that should be rolling off tongues at NASA is a philosophy of “cumulative” space exploration. That is, every time a mission within the solar system takes place, it should build on, literally, missions that have happened before, and its mission should be used to build on those that happen after.
When a space station is built, one of its primary tasks is to construct an “interplanetary shuttle engine”, a big, robotic engine and fuel tank to take other spaceships from Earth to Moon and Mars and beyond, and back, itself remaining in space. This would permit the spaceships to carry a lot more of their own fuel and supplies.
When considering Lunar and Martian missions, the first missions should be nuclear powered robotic tunneling systems. By mining tunnels as habitats, you avoid a huge number of problems, as well as create a cumulative Lunar or Martian base, so missions there can be a lot longer and carry more and different supplies.
The mining can be done before humans arrive and after they leave, and while they are there, the mining robots nuclear power can be used to provide copious amounts of energy to the base.
Yup. See "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein.
Well, duh! Why do you think they budgeted more money than they originally asked for? (Fatter kickbacks!)
Von Braun was pushing for this concept in the 60s. He wanted an Earth orbit rendezvous between the lunar lander and the crews, at a space station.
We were racing the Soviets at the time, so the idea was abandoned for the lunar orbit rendezvous between lander and command module.
The landers could have been reusable (if different from the LEM), and the space station could have been a stepping stone to more exploration.
The concept still seems to be on the back shelf gathering dust.
The tunneling machine concept is a good one, but maintaining any tlelmetry would be the hard part.
“Senate Launch System”....now there’s a thought.
Awesome graphic. Saved
NASA reveals its latest boondoggle. There’s no need for a huge launcher.
It could all be done. We just don't have the national will to do it.
The last Saturn V launch was for the 77 ton (169,950 pounds) Skylab.
The Saturn V rocket was 111 meters (363 feet) tall, about the height of a 36-story-tall building, and 18 meters (60 feet) taller than the Statue of Liberty. Fully fueled for liftoff, the Saturn V weighed 2.8 million kilograms (6.2 million pounds), the weight of about 400 elephants. The rocket generated 34.5 million newtons (7.6 million pounds) of thrust at launch, creating more power than 85 Hoover Dams. A car that gets 48 kilometers (30 miles) to the gallon could drive around the world around 800 times with the amount of fuel the Saturn V used for a lunar landing mission. It could launch about 118,000 kilograms (130 tons) into Earth orbit. That’s about as much weight as 10 school buses. The Saturn V could launch about 43,500 kilograms (50 tons) to the moon.
Payload to LEO, 260,000 pounds (130 tons, 120,000 kg, 120 tonnes)
Von Braun planned to assemble a Mars mission in orbit, using up to 12 Saturn V launches to do it (basically, the entire lunar landing program over again, but using a stage one booster that literally never had an engine failure).
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