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Massive Hole Discovered Under Antarctica, Bigger Than The Grand Canyon
Forbes ^ | 1/15/2014 | William Pentland

Posted on 01/17/2014 1:18:49 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome

A giant valley deeper than the Grand Canyon is buried beneath several miles of glacial ice in West Antarctica, according to a new study by British scientists.

The sub-glacial canyon is nearly two miles deep, 200 miles long and 15 miles wide.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: alienvspredator; antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; geology; grandcanyon; science; valley
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1 posted on 01/17/2014 1:18:50 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
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To: SunkenCiv
Ping!

I'm concerned about what they'll find if they dig down deep enough into this chasm. . .

No matter who wins, humanity loses.

2 posted on 01/17/2014 1:21:32 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

cool!


3 posted on 01/17/2014 1:26:14 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Vendome; Salamander; JoeProBono

No doubt this hole is the result of Capitalist exploitation of Mother Gaia’s natural wealth.

The only thing that will rectify the situation will be a $100B reparation payable to the UN and Federal regulation of/and a new tax on ice cubes.

End anthropogenic sub glacial erosion NOW!


4 posted on 01/17/2014 1:27:45 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi
"End anthropogenic sub glacial erosion NOW!"

I know the thread is short thus far, but that's definitely a winner!

5 posted on 01/17/2014 1:35:17 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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The Devils corridor...


6 posted on 01/17/2014 1:37:47 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Thank you! I’ll be here all weekend.

Forget the bartender and waitress.

Tip ME!


7 posted on 01/17/2014 1:38:47 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Kewel

I wanna hike through it...


8 posted on 01/17/2014 1:41:24 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: shibumi
Obligatory: Try it. you know you want to. . .


9 posted on 01/17/2014 1:44:54 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

I prefer lamb.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 1:48:05 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Watch out for shoggoths.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 2:05:35 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Vendome
I wanna hike through it...

Yeah, it's the height of summer so it will only be -50F with a 70 to 100 MPH wind. Thick boots and a good pair of mittens and you will be good to go. Send plenty of pics.

12 posted on 01/17/2014 2:20:33 AM PST by Wingy
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To: Little Pig; Flotsam_Jetsome
"It was a terrible, indescribable thing vaster than any subway train—a shapeless congeries of protoplasmic bubbles, faintly self-luminous, and with myriads of temporary eyes forming and un-forming as pustules of greenish light all over the tunnel-filling front that bore down upon us, crushing the frantic penguins and slithering over the glistening floor that it and its kind had swept so evilly free of all litter."

- H.P.L. - At The Mountains of Madness -


13 posted on 01/17/2014 2:21:18 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

These “scientists” can make up any tall tale and we are supposed to believe it? Prove it!


14 posted on 01/17/2014 2:39:40 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

15 posted on 01/17/2014 2:40:34 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Didn’t they film this thing in The X Files?


16 posted on 01/17/2014 2:45:59 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Wingy

I’m thinking the temp is a constant of 50’ish and no wind, like most caves.

The tough part would be provisioning.

I need one of those new robo pack mules to carry my food and whatever else Id need.

Having never gone more than 1/2 mile in a cave I would have no idea how to take something like that on.

Probably need professionals with me.

Be kewel to explore something almost no one else is gonna.

Like that giant hole recently found in China. I’d love to run around in there but, you’d need to setup provisions down in the hole part


17 posted on 01/17/2014 2:53:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
"The Land That Time Forgot"

"Negotiating an underwater tunnel [beneath the ice] to gain the island's interior, those aboard U-33 are amazed to discover a tropical prehistoric world kept warm by volcanic forces.

Here dinosaurs that should be long extinct live and roam, as do a curious race of humanoid savages that appear to exhibit all the various phases of Man's evolutionary development. To survive long enough to repair and replenish the U-boat, wartime enemies must put aside their differences and cooperate with one another. But not everyone is playing from the Kumbaya songbook...

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/land_time_forgot.htm

18 posted on 01/17/2014 3:01:57 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
That hole has been known about for a very long time. Lots of speculation from
the UFO crowd because if you can't explain it, throw fiction at it.
19 posted on 01/17/2014 3:08:08 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

“Channels of this magnitude have been observed before elsewhere, but their formation has been attributed to purely oceanic processes rather than meltwater exiting the grounded ice sheet. Now, with the connection to the meltwater system established, readily obtainable observations from the channels have the potential to shed light on how meltwater flows at the base of an inaccessible kilometer-thick ice sheet. The study received funding from Natural Environment Research Council (NERC) and the European Space Agency (ESA).”

http://scitechdaily.com/scientists-discover-giant-ice-channels-beneath-antarctic-ice-shelf/


20 posted on 01/17/2014 3:24:12 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

A ‘hole’ that is filled with ice, snow, and what not is not a ‘hole.’


21 posted on 01/17/2014 3:30:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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“...Researchers from the University of Exeter, Newcastle University, the University of Bristol, the University of Edinburgh, the British Antarctic Survey and the University of York, used satellite images and airborne radar measurements to reveal the channels under the ice shelf. The channels can be seen on the surface of the ice shelf, as well as underneath, because the ice floats at a different height depending on its thickness.

The researchers also predicted the path of meltwater flowing under the part of the ice in contact with the land – known as the ice sheet. They discovered that the predicted flow paths lined up with the channels under the ice shelf at the point where the ice starts to float.

The match-up indicates that the water flow beneath the grounded ice sheet is responsible for the formation of the channels beneath the floating ice shelf. When the meltwater flowing under the ice sheet enters the ocean beneath the ice shelf, it causes a plume of ocean water to form, which then melts out the vast channels under the ice shelf. Previously, it was thought that water flowed in a thin layer beneath the ice sheet, but the evidence from this study suggests it flows in a more focussed manner much like rivers of water. The way in which water flows beneath the ice sheet strongly influences the speed of ice flow, however, the implications for the future of the ice sheet are yet to be determined. ...”

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-giant-channels-beneath-antarctic-ice.html


22 posted on 01/17/2014 3:32:42 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: shibumi

23 posted on 01/17/2014 3:34:35 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Gaffer
A ‘hole’ that is filled with ice, snow, and what not is not a ‘hole.’

Where does it say the hole is filled with anything?

If you mean this: “Satellite data was used to fill the gap, because despite being covered beneath several kilometers of ice, the valley is so vast that it can be seen from space.”, they are referring to the ice ON TOP of it.

24 posted on 01/17/2014 3:39:05 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: JoeProBono

For the first time I can remember, someone beat you to it.

Post#15


25 posted on 01/17/2014 3:42:02 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vendome
"I need one of those new robo pack mules to carry my food and whatever else Id need."

Bonus: They're surprisingly sure-footed on ice.


26 posted on 01/17/2014 3:44:06 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: ETL
Where does it say the hole is filled with anything?

......buried beneath several miles of glacial ice in West Antarctica,

From the first sentence of the article.

27 posted on 01/17/2014 3:47:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Werx fer me...


28 posted on 01/17/2014 3:49:57 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gaffer

It’s an underground cavern with glacial ice above it.


29 posted on 01/17/2014 3:57:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Hundreds of miles of ice dome? Sounds kinda not believable to me.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 4:00:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: shibumi

31 posted on 01/17/2014 4:04:11 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

So, does this mean when all the ice is melted on account of global warming there’ll be a big lake instead of a rise in sea level? Just God’s way of preventing another calamitous flood, perhaps...


32 posted on 01/17/2014 4:06:04 AM PST by Toucan Dance (ain't misbehavin)
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To: Gaffer

Several, not hundreds.


33 posted on 01/17/2014 4:06:48 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Gaffer
Giant channels discovered beneath Antarctic ice shelf Enlarge
The ice shelf channel is clearly visible on the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica image map; the predicted flow route of water beneath the grounded ice sheet aligns with the initiation of the ice shelf channel. The dashed line marks the point at which the ice starts to float. Credit: MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA) Image Map / Anne le Brocq.

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Giant channels discovered beneath Antarctic ice shelf Enlarge
This is a schematic diagram indicating the approximate scale of one of the ice shelf channels, similar in height to the Eiffel Tower, and Tower Bridge in width. Credit: Anne Le Brocq

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-giant-channels-beneath-antarctic-ice.html

34 posted on 01/17/2014 4:10:04 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“...beneath several miles of glacial ice..”

Now wait a minute here, they told us glacial ice was almost all melted?? Several miles is some thick ice!


35 posted on 01/17/2014 4:15:24 AM PST by jughandle
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Oh Noes!

It is Anthropogenic Continental Drift!

“This widening of the Atlantic is taking place at an astounding rate, according to indisputable IPCD scientific data. Today it costs almost a third again as much to fly an Air France jet from New York to Paris than it did in 1997, a clear indicator that the ocean has indeed increased in size in the past decade. Surface shipping rates have likewise increased dramatically. -

See more at: http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/anthropogenic-continental-drift-an-incoherent-truth-t1668.html#sthash.TQCaXLK7.dpuf


36 posted on 01/17/2014 4:18:25 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: jughandle
"Several miles is some thick ice!

No kidding! Seems "Climate Change" doesn't mean what some have heretofore pontificated on postulated, at least in terms of anthropogenic impact. My understanding is that Antarctica has seen record ice cap growth this past year.

37 posted on 01/17/2014 4:25:58 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

38 posted on 01/17/2014 4:29:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Veteran Meteorologist Calls Climate Scientists’ Claims That More Sea Ice Proves Global Warming “Just Really Despicable

P Gosselin 29. December 2013

At his Saturday Summary (12/28 here) veteran meteorologist Joe Bastardi comments on how humiliated global warming alarmist scientists are trying to save face by claiming that all the new polar sea ice proves global warming.

Antarctic sea ice has been approaching record highs and embarrassed alarmist scientists are scrambling to explain why.

After presenting his weather information, at the 7:10 mark Joe gets to the nitty-gritty on climate.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic
Global sea ice: 1 million square kilometers above normal.
(cropped from Saturday Summary).

Now, I’ve got to do this because the global warming agenda is just really despicable in trying to claim the increase in Antarctic sea ice, opposite of what they said several years ago, and now they are trying to deny they said that, is a sign of global warming.”

Makes you wonder if climate scientists put water in the oven at home to try to make ice cubes.

Arctic sea ice has leveled off

Joe also shows Arctic sea ice has actually leveled off over the last few years, attributing the earlier reduction to oceanic cycles.

Later at the 8:15 mark Joe again sharply criticizes the shenanigans of climate alarmists, accusing scientists of lying with respect to Antarctic sea ice increase:

I’ll tell you what, now I cannot say how despicable it is to see the lying that is going on as you watch the Antarctic ice shelf continue to increase [...] It’s just amazing listening to all this going on.”

Joe later says that what’s going on in Antaractica is just a classic example of cyclical climate.

One thing is clear: climate science shows that scruples are in short supply within the field.

http://notrickszone.com/2013/12/29/veteran-meteorologist-calls-climate-scientists-claims-that-more-sea-ice-proves-global-warming-just-really-despicable/


39 posted on 01/17/2014 4:52:13 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

You’ve made some tremendously helpful, scientifically factual contributions to this thread. Thank you very much!


40 posted on 01/17/2014 5:33:17 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

You must be referring to my post 18.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3112658/posts?page=18#18

:)


41 posted on 01/17/2014 5:43:21 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
"You must be referring to my post 18."

The very one. ;)

42 posted on 01/17/2014 5:54:30 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident "Obama"?)
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To: ETL
"You must be referring to my post 18."

The very one. ;)

43 posted on 01/17/2014 5:54:44 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident "Obama"?)
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To: ETL

“Channels of this magnitude have been observed before elsewhere, but their formation has been attributed to purely oceanic processes rather than meltwater exiting the grounded ice sheet”

The Great Flood caused the channels. Ask Noah.


44 posted on 01/17/2014 5:56:06 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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With repeating. D@mn tablets!


45 posted on 01/17/2014 5:57:14 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident "Obama"?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Something about this seems familiar.........................

46 posted on 01/17/2014 6:33:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Timber Rattler

GMTA!................


47 posted on 01/17/2014 6:34:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: JoeProBono

GMTA!.................


48 posted on 01/17/2014 6:35:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Looks like a couple of drunken frat guys trying to make their way home from a Haloween party.


49 posted on 01/17/2014 6:38:24 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Red Badger

;-{)


50 posted on 01/17/2014 6:40:52 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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