Skip to comments.Florida theatre killing proves guys with guns are primed to shoot
Posted on 01/17/2014 6:10:16 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
Guns dont kill people, popcorn kills people. Or maybe its texting. Or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time with some fool who thinks he needs to take a gun to the movies.
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Then I can expect thousands of shootings today in my state alone?
Or the millions of FReepers that cook up a batch when a good show (thread) begins ....
Except the guy in question was an ex-cop - you know, one of the only kind of guys liberals think should be allowed to have guns.
A retired cop. Someone that the liberals deem to be so so much better than the masses that they are allowed to carry nationwide.
Well, it does prove one guy is. But this article exposes failure of this author’s intellectual approach to thisliberal group think: He is lumping people into groups rather than focusing on the individual.
I see it in people’s perspective on auto accidents. If a car gets in an accident people blame it on the driver(stupid women drivers or asian drivers, or teenagers, etc.)But when a truck or motorcycle causes an accident they tend to say, “stupid truck drivers” or “stupid motorcyclists”.
One could just as easily say that retired cops have a superiority complex and that was the problem here.
That said, an armed society is a polite society. I wonder if the deceased would have acted the way he did if the cop had been open carrying from the git go.
Nope. Just proves you can’t trust cops. They have this “eff all you peasants” attitude that makes them dangerous.
With almost as many guns as there are people we see thousands of people shot in each theater each showing.
Jeepers! It’s gonna’ be like Antietam down here today!
No, it proves that a cop went nuts.
It wasn’t a “guy” - it was an ex-cop with an elitist sense of authority.
Whether I'm going to Church, the mall, walking the dog or to the bank, I never leave home with out it.
I'd never shoot a guy for throwing popcorn, gummy bears, maybe, but popcorn...
Well, those sugarfree gummy bears have been proven near lethal - but you have to ingest them.
Then comparable stats need to be thrown back in their face. If one person out of millions misuses food stamps, cancel all food stamps. If one person abuses Medicaid, it’s a program that must be stopped. If one illegal commits a crime, shouldn’t we deport all illegals?
BTW, not that this justifies the shooting, but something tells me the deceaced was a royal prick. I’ve come across that sort of person more than once. It’s slightly skewing my attitude about this thing.
I know that if even a total jerk asked me to stop texting in a theater I’d stop doing it. I might grumble to myself but the Bible pretty clearly teaches me how to deal with such situations.
Yes, an example of one is always good for coming to a universal conclusion.
I marvel at the lack of logic that leftist suffer under. Here the writer tries to bolster his position by citing the background of the shooter to maintain that a gun, no matter who carries it, is going to drive the wearer to kill someone. By raising this fallacious argument, he suggests that trained law enforcement should all be disarmed since that dastardly gun on their hip is going to overpower their good sense and cause them to illegally kill someone. Logic says that people, not guns kill people and there is always going to a bad apple in any barrel.
Using their own logic....
Only cops should have guns. And Guns should not be in movie theaters. Therefore, cops should not be allowed to go to the movies.
You realize he and his wife were on a date. Their two year old was with the babysitter. The movie hadn't started yet and he was texting with the babysitter. I'm not sure anything has been reported that suggests "the deceaced was a royal prick."
My opinion? Your assumption is not based on a reasonable review of the reports.
When I first read this story, I got the same impression cuban leaf did.
However, that power tripping ex-cop wasn’t right in his actions either. None of this had to happen, a simple thing turned deadly because of attitudes.
Maybe I missed some stuff or gleaned stuff that was not there. I thought there was something about him throwing popcorn on the guy.
It could be said that ex over trained swat type thug cops with guns kill people.
But since many other types of people own guns and do not kill people the problem is the ex over trained swat type thug cop and not the fire arm that is the problem.
Maybe it proves that cops and ex-cops are primed to shoot - and thus shouldn’t be allowed to carry guns, like in jolly olde England...
Last I read, 1 in every 17 Michiganders has a concealed carry permit. That doesn’t include open carriers and long guns which reach into the millions.
The urban media finds the words man and men icky. The word guy takes the edge off. It's part of the emasculation that occurs in high density urban areas. City life is for women and fags hoping to meet a rich prince "guy" and live happily ever after. And we are hoping they never leave their sewered castle.
Especially when you’re the captain that formed their first SWAT team, first he has to pose like someone who needs a football stadium to shake the drizzle off his schnizzel, second he’s going to be more motivated than the average badgewearer to jump down the throat of any pissing contest that came along. You don’t say “no” to the “P. O.”.
Yep, and oh so predictable. Amazing how this “journalist” ignores the thousands of justified uses by CCW holders, versus the minuscule number of misuses. Beyond that, this shooter was an ex-cop who could probably carry in a lot of states that don’t issue CCW permits to most folk.
I hope the shooter in this case gets what he deserves, but this incident does nothing to invalidate concealed carry as a desirable thing in general.
I wondered if the shooter was a registered Democrat or not. No one has said. Since its been not reported I am going out on a limb and state he’s a registered Democrat.
Cars kill far more people than guns.
Maybe all cops should be on foot or horseback?
I think what it proves is that ex cops with a bad attitude are primed to use their guns. The worst nightmare of regular folks who CC is that they will have to shoot someone.
If I said he shot him down like a dog, that would be overly dramatic. But he went straight to the police book of loopholes with a perfectly calm demeanor as if he'd done nothing even as significant as shooting a dog. "I shot him."
He knew what he would do, he knew what he would say, but I think he may mistake the outcome.
My scenario (having no knowledge of the facts is that a career as a cop caused a mental disorder that rendered incapable of coping with total open disrespect.
This question should cause us to ask what we can do to change our culture of how cops are treated that causes them to suffer from this.
Its also related to the high unpunished rate of spousal abuse by cops.
Sometimes it’s A-holes with chips on their shoulders that kill people.
100 million gun owners killed no one yesterday. The “authors” argument is invalid...
Plus, the shooter was retired LAW ENFORCEMENT. The very folks this idiot thinks are the only ones who should have guns in our Society...
“....maintain that a gun, no matter who carries it, is going to drive the wearer to kill someone.”
That’s typical liberal projection.
The lib finally have a single example and will forever pretend it happens everywhere, all of the time.
Don’t mess with 70+ guys, they have low tolerance. You never know what kind of a response you will get, especially if they are former service retired. In Florida there are many, and they do have a short fuse. They grew up in a respectful society, and don’t put up with the nonsense of what passes for it today. This is a case of a young hot head vs an old hot head. It could have been avoided, after all, when you go to see a movie you don’t want to listen to phones going off and conversations.
During deer hunting season in Wisconsin, I can drive down a number of rural roads and see hunters carrying their guns into the woods. Now according to lib columnists, these hunters should be shooting randomly at people in cars, right? Somehow, that never happens.
My vote is for texting during a movie. Some clueless wastes of skin deserve whatever they get. What good are they if they are so self-centered to be oblivious to etiquette, or simple social courtesy?
If I told you once, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate. Or engage in mindless hyperbole; or opening mouth before engaging brain.
Not many adults get numbers reversed so badly...
Be prepared to kill every old fart you meet.
Your faulty analysis does not change a thing. Stepping out to the lobby to deal with texting "emergencies" (by definition) is not an unreasonable expectation.
Perfect example, here is someone you do not want with you on the Freeper march to DC...if a bird crapped on his shoulder and he thought somebody threw it, it'd be all over.
Like a character out of Weinstein movie
I will be using the description often from now on.
I made no analysis. I regurgitated facts from various stories regarding the circumstances. Then I commented on the lack of reasonable evidence reported that would lead a normal person to suggest the victim was "a royal prick."
There is no argument that can be made about the validity of my post. You look silly trying to discredit me. The "royal prick" shot the evil texter in the chest after he got a face full of popcorn.
From his bio page...
Lifetime resident of California; Have lived in San Francisco (23 yrs), Marin County (35 yrs), Calif Central Valley, (12 yrs) Retired civil engineer/ surveyor/CAD specialist (45 yrs). Registered Democrat, but fiscal and social Conservative in voting booth (usually non-democrat.) Retired since 2007. Interests: History, Geography, art, travel, photography, antisocialism, antikoranimals, anti texting zombies, anti twits. Support: Constitution, Bill of Rights, Tea Party, Second Amendment, Tenth Amendment, legal immigration.
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