Skip to comments.A car dealerís scientific guide to the 10 worst used vehicles
Posted on 01/19/2014 10:57:43 AM PST by cicero2k
Quality is something we all want when it comes to cars, especially older used ones. But how do we get it?
I have been studying this question in one form or another for nearly 14 years now. I began my automotive career as a car dealer, buying and selling hundreds of vehicles a year. As time went on, I became an auto auctioneer, a remarketing manager and a part-owner of a wholesale auto auction.
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I’ve actually never had a problem with my “older Suzuki”. Still has original muffler/cat and valve cover never off except for timing belt change.
All vehicles I would avoid anyway. Still interesting. Friend of mine said stay away from Mazda because of oil leaks.
I will add one of my own, 2008 Chevy Aveo, just because for a small car it got crappy MPG ( and I drive 60 ). Underpowered, accelerates like a pig on stilts. Only good point, it had the best factory radio of any car I’ve had.
We’ve had good luck with Cadillac DTS. We buy them when they are coming off lease at 3 years, and we drive them forever. We buy the most luxiurious model available (heated and cooled seates, back up sensors, etc.)
I’ve had some problems with my used Aviator but overall it is a solid vehicle.
I call BS. I would expect GM to claim at a minimum seven of the bottom ten spots.
Id rather put 15k into this car and make it "new" rather than spend 25K on a new car.
I don’t imagine they’re around anymore, but the Mazda RX7 should certainly qualify - that rotary was a total POS!
...Well, approximately two-thirds of the vehicles that reach the 300k+ mark at an auction I attend will usually belong in one of four categories.
Ford truck or SUV. Chevy truck or SUV. Honda car. Toyota everything.
There you have it. Nearly two thirds of the vehicles that I see with serious high mileage credentials will belong in one of those four categories...
All ten of those cars are crap to begin with - I just picked up a 2000 Buick Park Avenue Ultra with 67K original miles and nary a scratch on it for 6 grand. Original sticker price 38K, it has the excellent V6 with a factory supercharger. Gets 25mpg on a cruise with a ton of passing power.
Thanks for posting.
My 1998 Buick Park Avenue Non-Ultra has 190,000 miles and plenty of scratches. Plenty of nuisance problems (stuck doors, windows , bas head lamp lenses) and I HATE daytime running lights, but that 3800 drivetain is a champ.
Depends. I know many people who have had great luck with GM trucks. Some of the cheap econoboxes they made, not so much.
No Pintos or Gremlins?
I love my ‘06 Scion Xa. Only gripe is that the paint is fragile and gets chipped off easily. Add that to the NYC drivers who believe they have to tap the cars fore and aft while parallel parking, and you have chipped bumpers.
Don’t forget Chevy Vegas!
Oh Yeah...and the Chevy Geo too.
My 1999 Chevy Venture is the best running vehicle I ever owned. It’s got 128 thousand miles and still runs great! That being said I will never buy another Chevy.
A good complimentary article.
As an owner of a 2000 Civic, I tell people that it is like driving for the cost of gasoline, and at 35 MPG, it is not much.
Then my 2005 Chevy Trailblazer. Rides quiet as a luxury car, and had only to replace a fuel pump in all that time. The brakes are original.
This is fishy ... 8 out of 10 are Ford Motor Company associated cars (Mazda/Land Rover/Lincoln/Jaguar). Probably written by a GM Union acolyte.
My dad had two separate ford f-250 vans that he got 200 thousand plus miles out of and sold and bother are still on the road ten years later.
as was posted on that link; the whole article was a thinly disguised ad for Toyotas. Bought and paid for.
Yep, I have a 1997 Toyota 4Runner that is my beater/hauler vehicle. It has 225k miles on it and hardly a problem. Only had issues with starter, batteries (met battery life) and front brake rotors.
This is based on recent trade-ins.
I’m guessing it’s been a while since anybody traded in a Vega, Pinto, or Gremlin, LOL.
Those Jags are absolute poison.
I love the styling and really wanted to buy one.
But OMG the owner experience is horrific.
There are people who have created websites just to detail the story of their pain.
Hopefully now that they’re owned by the Indians instead of Ford things will improve for Jag and Rover.
Interesting, as I personally know of a few of those F-250 vans with 200,000+ miles still running strong. The small businesses that turn them over do so because anything that high mileage starts to look a little shabby, not because they have drive train issues.
I still own a 1987 RX-7 that has 102k miles. Best car I ever owned. No maintenance issues ever. Still have original brakes. Better gas milage than EPA estimates. On one vacation trip I got more than 33mpg on a tank while driving on the interstates. Other friends with RX-7’s report few repairs also. My 1991 Corvette has been just the opposite. Very often and costly maintenance.
I believe that one of the most difficult to get vehicles right now is the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport. Even at $80 to over $100k, dealers can’t keep them on the lot. I believe their engines are still sourced from Ford, and the electronics, though improved, are still sourced from Satan.
But people with enough dough still line up to buy them.
Plenty of free publicity when the UK royals made the baby splash.
A friend and I rebuilt my 1st car, a Pinto.
I blew up the engine and he bore out the compression to 12-1.
Got a ticket doing 118.
OHP was laughing hysterically til and couldn’t believe radar.
I confirmed and he wrote me for 68.
Said keep it down under 100.
Apparently the front end was floating.
I think he was drinking but, I took the gimme.
I had an ‘83 RX, which was rear ended by a white hair, and replaced by an ‘86.
I never really did like the ‘86, but if it hadn’t been creamed, I’d still be running the ‘83.
No problems with either one.
My car is a 1999 Toyota Solara with 620K miles on it. I put all but 50 miles on it. Yes, I have had some work done on it, but it runs well, has good gas mileage and is very dependable. Having a transmission put in next month, but the cost of maintenance and upkeep is still cheaper than purchasing a new car. Regardless of a car being new, I would still have to cough up for the monthly payments AND the regularly scheduled maintenance. I will drive this one until the wheels fall off. No matter what car/truck/SUV one drives, remember: maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. Fix the small, inexpensive stuff before it becomes big, expensive stuff.
It’s amazing how many folks want to be driving the “official vehicle of the Kardashians” LOL
I dont imagine theyre around anymore, but the Mazda RX7 should certainly qualify - that rotary was a total POS!...Freakin’ best sports car EVER made that was affordable.
I have a 2006 Jaguar S Type that has been an excellent car. Routine maintenance costs will kill you though.
Whoa! When I’ve seen them, they’re always in Mercedes G550s or the G AMGs.
My first vehicle was a Pinto. (1973 ish)
Paid $200.00 for it.
I got a few tickets too. LOL
My second vehicle was a Honda CB350. And that made me the Gal I am today! (FReeper Biker...LOL!)
Like I said, I love the styling.
They are gorgeous, perfect size vehicle, great chassis dynamics.
I can fix the mechanicals but the electronics are likely overwhelming.
They’re getting so cheap on resale I may eventually take the plunge.
I Don’t doubt it one bit, FRiend!
I shop for cars a lot as I drive $2000 vehicles and need a new one about every three years. Worst reviews I ever read was for the ford contour.
I think you’re talking more recent episodes.
MB took over the account, LOL.
What year is that LOL?
I think in the last 2 years.
Sometimes you will see them in an Escalade but the show pixelates the logos.
Anyone who buys a used european car is just asking to suffer.
We have a new Mercedes SUV that I almost refuse to drive. Like moving from a station wagon to a race car. ;)
What a great story!!!!!! Classic!!!!!A good cop!!!!
Mine was three tone before a drunk driver killed it dead.
Yellow, rust and primer...
It did have that fancy red piece of plastic between the bumper and the gas tank.
Don’t know how that was suppose to prevent fires ....
Buying a brand new car is usually cheaper in the long run. Finance it for 60 months and all you really need to deal with maintenance-wise is oil changes and maybe a couple tune-ups and set of tires. Then you get another brand new car.
With used cars, you are always dealing with repairs that are over $1,000 so you don't really save any money over buying new.
The British, all the way back to the 50s, could have ruled the automotive world had they been willing/able to incorporate the quality principles of W. Edwards Deming.
They always had the design concepts done very well.
The Japanese learned from Deming and became very successful selling far less capable vehicles.
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