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Smoking or drinking during pregnancy can make your baby GAY, claims professor
Mail on Sunday (UK) ^ | 07:41 EST, 19 January 2014 | (Daily Mail Reporter)

Posted on 01/19/2014 3:39:28 PM PST by Olog-hai

A controversial new study claims that decisions made by women when they are pregnant can affect their babies brains including determining their sexuality, intelligence and chances of developing autism.

The suggestion that the lifestyle of an expectant mother can affect their offspring’s development has been put forward in Professor Dick Swaab’s new book, We Are Our Brains.

The professor of neurology at Amsterdam University claims that the chance of having a child who is gay can be determined by a range of factors, including how stressed pregnant women are, as well as whether they smoke and their exposure to amphetamines.

“Pre-birth exposure to both nicotine and amphetamines increases the chance of lesbian daughters,” said Swaab. “Pregnant women suffering from stress are also more likely to have homosexual children of both genders because their raised level of the stress hormone cortisol affects the production of fetal sex hormones.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: alcohol; dickswaab; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; tobacco

1 posted on 01/19/2014 3:39:28 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”


2 posted on 01/19/2014 3:40:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I KNEW THAT!


3 posted on 01/19/2014 3:40:59 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Booze and smoking is the gay gene!


4 posted on 01/19/2014 3:45:26 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

Might the fact that a woman would be so irresponsible as to drink or smoke while pregnant meets the definition of an unfit mother have something to do with it?

How many of these study cases were also unwed?


5 posted on 01/19/2014 3:46:28 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Olog-hai

Daily Mail. Enough said.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 3:47:15 PM PST by Coronal
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To: Olog-hai

bill clinton. the defense rests.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 3:47:21 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Olog-hai

8 posted on 01/19/2014 3:50:46 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Olog-hai

Sure - it makes everyone happy.


9 posted on 01/19/2014 3:50:56 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: Olog-hai

10 posted on 01/19/2014 3:51:47 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Olog-hai

This professor. His name is Dick Swaab. Now, that is just wrong.


11 posted on 01/19/2014 3:51:59 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Olog-hai

Wouldn’t surprise me, drinking and smoking are terrible teratogens that completely mess up the developing baby. If you smoke, drink, or use crack/meth during pregnancy, consider yourself lucky if he comes out just gay.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 3:52:00 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s more likely that women that smoke and drink during pregnancy have babies fathered by men who fail miserably at their paternal obligations causing emotional damage to their children who then become same sex attracted in an effort to feel loved


13 posted on 01/19/2014 3:52:47 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Coronal

Daily Mail and the telegraph lean to the right and mostly report the news on Odumbo that OUR MSM will never report. It’s the Guardian UK which is left and have a history of anti Americanism which stretches even during the Iraq war.


14 posted on 01/19/2014 3:53:59 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

According the article, we have a lot of bosh being presented as science. The driving factor seems to be the desire to “prove” that people are “born gay.”


15 posted on 01/19/2014 3:55:07 PM PST by Tax-chick (I don't want to set the world on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

It seems to be true that the more older brothers a boy has, the greater chance he will be gay. Only biological brothers though:

“A study of 1,000 men, including some who were adopted or brought up with stepsiblings, revealed that having many brothers raised a man’s odds of being gay. This correlation only occurred among blood brothers, however. Stepbrothers did not have an effect, but biological brothers who were brought up separately did. No similar link has been found between having many older sisters and becoming a lesbian.

“Each older brother raised by one-third the odds that a man will be gay. If a firstborn son has a 3 percent chance of being gay, the figure for the second son will be 4 percent. By the fourth son, the odds of the so-called “fraternal birth order effect” will have doubled.

“Canadian scientists now believe that carrying a male baby triggers an immune response in the mother, creating antibodies that attack part of the foetus’ brain linked to sexual orientation. Genetics and exposure to hormones are also thought to be important.”

From http://www.edgeboston.com/news/international/149044/scientists:_having_older_brothers_raises_odds_of_being_gay


16 posted on 01/19/2014 3:57:33 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> “Pre-birth exposure to both nicotine and amphetamines increases the chance of lesbian daughters,” said Swaab. “Pregnant women suffering from stress are also more likely to have homosexual children of both genders because their raised level of the stress hormone cortisol affects the production of fetal sex hormones.”

Thanks Olog-hai. Prenatal exposure to secondhand smoke causes bisexuality. ;’)


17 posted on 01/19/2014 3:59:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Olog-hai

probably should have told the moms of the 1950s that...


18 posted on 01/19/2014 4:01:35 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Coronal

And I though this was the UK’s right wing paper. Look at the comments! Outraged at the insinuation that homosexuality is a disorder, and claiming that it’s genetic with no evidence.

I think Britain may be well and truly doomed. Oh, well. Islam might prove to be a good disinfectant, like the Babylonians and the Israelites.


19 posted on 01/19/2014 4:09:26 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Tax-chick

If they go that route, they try to prove that it’s inborn rather than caused by external factors.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 4:09:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Oh, I don’t know. Prenatal determinism gives you the same result as genetics, if your goal is to “prove” that homosexuals have no choice in their behavior.

The problem with homosexuality as 100% genetically driven is that it’s very difficult to imagine how the trait is perpetuated, unless the person could, in fact, deliberately choose to engage in procreative intercourse ... which blows your “no choice” argument.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 4:13:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (I don't want to set the world on fire.)
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To: Tax-chick

The flip side of all this is, of course, that mothers may be encouraged to abort suspected “gay” fetuses no matter the suspected “cause”.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 4:19:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That would be interesting. Hate speech, maybe? It’s interesting that the proliferation of “disability rights” for nuts like transsexuals hasn’t affected the pressure to abort children with Down Syndrome or spina bifida.

Would a doctor push aborting a child who might have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? What if alcohol consumption really meant a child would probably be homosexual? Can you file a “wrongful birth” claim if the boy turns out to be homosexual when he’s 20?


23 posted on 01/19/2014 4:23:42 PM PST by Tax-chick (I don't want to set the world on fire.)
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To: Yaelle

I noticed that too.

But you beat me to it.


24 posted on 01/19/2014 4:27:15 PM PST by left that other site
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To: Olog-hai

Why don’t they just simplify things and say that smoking causes everything you might consider unwanted. Had a great uncle who smoked cigarettes, chewed tobacco, and smoked a pipe. Died at ninety-seven. Also had an aunt who chained smoked while pregnant and had three very robust children. The last when she forty-three.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 4:28:46 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: jonathonandjennifer

Even caused George Burns to live to 100.


26 posted on 01/19/2014 4:30:04 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

When I watch movies from the forties and people are sitting around talking and smoking they look free to me. Freedom. I think I vaguely remember that.


27 posted on 01/19/2014 4:39:28 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Caipirabob

HA HA HA!!!!!


28 posted on 01/19/2014 4:42:59 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: Olog-hai

The flip side of all this is,
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Now that you mention the ‘flip’ side, I thought that sex in the late pregnancy was the ‘cause’ of it.

Getting ‘poked’ with that thing makes the ‘boys’ like it and the ‘girls’ wanting nothing to do with it.

Strictly Scientific theory mind you. <: <:


29 posted on 01/19/2014 5:04:42 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: Olog-hai
Didn't this guy get the PC-police memo that gay is the new normal? He and his researched are going to get trashed.
30 posted on 01/19/2014 5:20:23 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Olog-hai

Ping for later


31 posted on 01/19/2014 6:15:04 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Olog-hai
Rush Limbaugh, has said it many a time, "HISTORY STARTS FOR MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE BORN."

The "real" history doesn't matter, it's the graduates of the Woodrow Wilson school of history revisionist, that matter's.

Well as someone born 1953, attended a high school, where my class (of 1971) was the last full time students of two buildings that were turned into two separate HIGH SCHOOLS. class size consisting of just 12th grader's approx. 1000, if you include 10th grade + 11th grade + 12th grade over 3000.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brentwood_High_School_(Brentwood,_New_York)

Brentwood {Long Island, New York} High School began with the Ross Building, with its tennis courts and state of the art swimming pool. It was named for William H. Ross, M.D., psychiatrist, founder in 1898 of the Ross Health Resort (now Ross Healthcare, still located on Suffolk Avenue).[citation needed]

The Sonderling Building was completed and open for students in September 1964.

How come I don't know, or see a lot of gay people, smoking & drinking while pregnant was very prevalent during the early 1960's to the mid 1970's.

Must be the newer math that only counts.

32 posted on 01/19/2014 8:41:00 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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