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HP brings back Windows 7 by popular demand
The Verge ^ | 1/20/14 | Tom Warren

Posted on 01/20/2014 12:35:23 PM PST by dangerdoc

HP really wants people to buy a Windows 7 PC instead of a Windows 8 machine. The PC maker has been emailing customers over the weekend noting that "Windows 7 is back." A new promotion, designed to entice people to select Windows 7 over Windows 8 with $150 of "savings," has launched on HP’s website with a "back by popular demand" slogan. The move is clearly designed to position Windows 7 over Microsoft’s touch-centric Windows 8 operating system.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hp; microsoft; windows7; windows8; windowsxp; xp
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1 posted on 01/20/2014 12:35:23 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

I’m there. W7 is fairly stable. As long as the drivers are available.


2 posted on 01/20/2014 12:37:01 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k

“I’m there. W7 is fairly stable. As long as the drivers are available.”

Be aware that Microsoft is dropping all support for Windows 7 in 2015, so it won’t be around for long.


3 posted on 01/20/2014 12:39:03 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: dangerdoc

I recently bought a Lenovo laptop. One of the main selling points for me was it having Windows 7 installed. The Windows 8 upgrade disks were included, but no way they are going on my machine.


4 posted on 01/20/2014 12:41:35 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: 2harddrive

After the stunt msoft just pulled on the people using 8.1 preview and the grief involved in downloading software items with all the foist-ware which appears to have crept in since the last time I did that, I’m thinking more and more in terms of LINUX. There was no warning that I ever saw.


5 posted on 01/20/2014 12:42:17 PM PST by varmintman
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To: dangerdoc

It takes 2 minutes to install “classic shell” on windows 8, which bypasses metro on start and gives you a windows 7 interface.

That eliminates any reason I can see for preferring windows 7 over 8.


6 posted on 01/20/2014 12:42:25 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: 2harddrive

Wow, I just looked it up, support ends in less than a year from now, who do they think they are, HTC?


7 posted on 01/20/2014 12:42:27 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

That’s too bad, because an OEM can set up Win 8 to be just like Win 7, but better.


8 posted on 01/20/2014 12:42:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2harddrive
Be aware that Microsoft is dropping all support for Windows 7 in 2015, so it won’t be around for long.

They may say so now as a ploy to get people to upgrade to Windows 8, but I would bet it will be a later date, maybe much later. XP which has been out a lot longer is scheduled to have MS support dropped this April and I do believe in that cutoff date.

9 posted on 01/20/2014 12:43:14 PM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: dangerdoc

I hate my HP windows 8. I have downloaded a program to make it palatable. My laptop is a warrantee replacement. It replaced a slightly different laptop that had the much better windows 7.

I need to call them about retro fitting it.


10 posted on 01/20/2014 12:43:48 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Mount Athos

I use Start 8, it makes Win 8.1 usable but the right menu pops up about every other time I use the mouse, I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but it is very annoying.


11 posted on 01/20/2014 12:44:22 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dangerdoc

I’ve less love for HP laptops than I do for Windows 8.


12 posted on 01/20/2014 12:44:32 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 2harddrive; dangerdoc

Extended support lasts until 2020, so it’s still got life.


13 posted on 01/20/2014 12:45:05 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dangerdoc

Too many business have JUST upgraded to Win 7 from XP to make ending support in a year realistic.


14 posted on 01/20/2014 12:45:46 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (“The only thing that can save us is if Kerry wins the Nobel prize and leaves us alone.”-Moshe Yaal)
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To: Mount Athos
Classic Shell ... eliminates any reason I can see for preferring windows 7 over 8.
As far as the user interface is concerned, yes. However, Win 7 Pro will run older software programs, while Win 8 will not.
15 posted on 01/20/2014 12:45:53 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: CedarDave

Oh, no! I like XP.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 12:57:08 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: dangerdoc
Not quite the drop dead date:

Windows 7 Service Pack 1
End of mainstream support January 13, 2015
End of extended support January 14, 2020
Windows lifecycle fact sheet

And MS just announced last week that XP will keep offering anti-malware updates until July 2015 (Microsoft: Windows XP anti-malware support to last into 2015)

17 posted on 01/20/2014 12:58:08 PM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: 2harddrive

Be aware that *I’m* dropping support for Microsoft Windows in 2014.


18 posted on 01/20/2014 12:59:48 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: ShadowAce

For your Ping list...


19 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:01 PM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: dangerdoc

HP is getting out of the consumer PC and laptop business.
Likely they are just trying to clear out remaining backstock of machines with Win 7 installed.


20 posted on 01/20/2014 1:01:59 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: oh8eleven

I just bought an Asus Ultrabook w/1920 monitor - better aesthetics and build quality than Apple Air.

I came with Win8 and I immediately upgraded to 8.1.

My old netbook was Win7 and, although I never used Win8, the new 8.1 is VERY nice. The “Start” menu is different with the tiles but I can easily switch to a “normal” desktop.

Blazing fast with a Full (1920) HD monitor with extraordinary resolution.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 1:05:00 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: oh8eleven

I forgot to add I have successfully installed Office 2003 Pro including Outlook 2003 on the new Win8.1 Asus Ultrabook - they all run perfectly.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 1:07:27 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Alex Murphy

I have 0 love for Has Problems HP stuff. When people contact me about fixing their boxes and when I did warranty service, 80% were HP.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 1:09:25 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: dangerdoc

select Windows 7 over Windows 8 with $150 of “savings,”

$150?


24 posted on 01/20/2014 1:14:21 PM PST by McGruff
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To: dangerdoc; ShadowAce; Utilizer

Wow... Windows 8 is the new WiiU apparently


25 posted on 01/20/2014 1:20:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: dangerdoc

Bring back WORD 6.0!!!!!


26 posted on 01/20/2014 1:21:05 PM PST by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being decapitated)
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To: dangerdoc

I wish this had come out a few months ago.


27 posted on 01/20/2014 1:23:21 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: wally_bert

were the rest Toshiba?


28 posted on 01/20/2014 1:23:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: clbiel

lol

I remember Wordpad


29 posted on 01/20/2014 1:24:02 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: dangerdoc

Bookmark.


30 posted on 01/20/2014 1:25:29 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: dangerdoc

Dell has been selling W7 all along. I have a W7 system laptop and just replaced my 8 year old XP lappy with a new DEll W8.1. There is a W8 learning curve.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 1:37:07 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: UB355

I took advantage of a Black Friday special at DEll and got a $150.00 discount.


32 posted on 01/20/2014 1:40:20 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: newfreep
I have successfully installed Office 2003 Pro including Outlook 2003
I'm not surprised ... both are MS products.
33 posted on 01/20/2014 1:50:28 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ShadowAce; Ernest_at_the_Beach; martin_fierro; Swordmaker; blam

Thanks dangerdoc.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 2:00:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: oh8eleven

My point was old, 2003 programs installed & operate perfectly on Win8.1 and is contrary to the myth perpetuated by MS attackers.

Sadly, apple phanboiz are even worse....


35 posted on 01/20/2014 2:10:20 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

36 posted on 01/20/2014 2:31:05 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dangerdoc
I use Start 8, it makes Win 8.1 usable but the right menu pops up about every other time I use the mouse, I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but it is very annoying.

If you have a touchpad, and a touchpad properties program, go into it and disable the edge swipes under gestures.

37 posted on 01/20/2014 2:47:19 PM PST by Stentor
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To: dangerdoc

Android 4.3 update on my Note 2 broke tethering (provider approved) and wifi hotspot on Windows 8.1. It works perfectly on Windows 7 and Lubuntu.


38 posted on 01/20/2014 2:51:11 PM PST by Stentor
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To: newfreep

You realize Office 2003 support ends in April 2014


39 posted on 01/20/2014 3:28:23 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: dangerdoc
A new promotion, designed to entice people to select Windows 7 over Windows 8 with $150 of "savings," has launched on HP’s website with a "back by popular demand" slogan. The move is clearly designed to position Windows 7 over Microsoft’s touch-centric Windows 8 operating system.

Hmmm ... I think it's less to do with positioning Windows 7 over Windows 8 and more to do with giving consumers an option to save $150. There's also the fact that many folks don't like Windows 8 for a plethora of reasons and this is a smart marketing move by HP to attract customers away from other PC vendors who may not be offering this option.

A fine example of Capitalism at work, IMO>

40 posted on 01/20/2014 3:35:38 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: UB355

Your comment is irrelevant.

The issue was people falsely propagating a myth that Win 8.1 cannot run old programs.

My experience indicates Win 8.1 DOES indeed run older programs such as 2003 Office/Outlook that I was running on Win7.


41 posted on 01/20/2014 3:35:53 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: dangerdoc; zot; SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times

yep, verrrrrry interrrressstingggg


42 posted on 01/20/2014 3:44:48 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: dangerdoc

I upgraded to 8 about 2 months ago, and have actually come to like it. Very stable. It just takes some getting used to. But I would never go back.


43 posted on 01/20/2014 3:56:09 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mount Athos

How do I install classic shell? I have a computer with 7, but this windows 8 is freakin awful.


44 posted on 01/20/2014 4:02:09 PM PST by dforest
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To: Vaquero

If you have a license for Win8, I believe you already have the right to “downgrade” it to 7, whether HP will do anything for you or not. So IOW, you already have a license, you just need to find some Win7 install media somewhere.


45 posted on 01/20/2014 4:02:33 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: dforest

http://www.classicshell.net/


46 posted on 01/20/2014 4:04:45 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: dangerdoc

Bookmarked.


47 posted on 01/20/2014 4:08:04 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: clbiel

Shoot, I liked Word for DOS better than the alternatives (primarily Word Perfect). Winword is...OK, relative to the alternatives, but not impressively good like Word for DOS was.


48 posted on 01/20/2014 4:08:32 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Word for DOS

Still sounds funny to me.


49 posted on 01/20/2014 4:12:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Or as we liked to call it at the time “Word for DOGS”, replace by “Word for Widows”!


50 posted on 01/20/2014 4:13:32 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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