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65 surrogate babies born to Israeli gay couples stuck in Thailand
Times of Israel ^ | Gavriel Fiske

Posted on 01/20/2014 12:52:16 PM PST by Morgana

Several dozen surrogate babies born, or about to be born, in Thailand — through the arrangements of Israeli couples — are unable to come to Israel because the Interior Ministry has not granted Israeli citizenship to the infants, according to an advocacy group formed around the issue.

There are currently some 65 babies stuck in Thailand that were conceived by homosexual Israeli couples, according to the group “Help Us Bring the Babies Home.” The group formed a Facebook page last week that has already garnered some 14,000 “Likes” and the support of Gal Uchovsky, a prominent Tel Aviv LGBTQ activist and journalist.

The group has focused its attention on Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar, and is planning multiple demonstrations outside his Tel Aviv home this week, culminating Thursday in a large rally organized with the help of various LGBTQ organizations.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; israel; moralabsolutes; surrogatemothers

1 posted on 01/20/2014 12:52:16 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

OMG!
Well, its not the babies’ fault...

What would be best for the babies?
(I admit I just do not know..... gee, some people sure do some crazy things these days!!!!! May God have mercy on all of us!)


2 posted on 01/20/2014 12:55:15 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: Morgana

This sounds very predatory. Who would do this to a child? Shame on the Thai women who agreed to this.


3 posted on 01/20/2014 12:55:27 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Morgana

Thailand? OMG babies being shipped from Thailand to gay couples in Israel? The whole concept sounds evil. And why would they be Israeli citizens if born in Thailand?


4 posted on 01/20/2014 12:58:13 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Morgana

If it’ her egg, how can the Thai woman be a “surrogate mother”?


5 posted on 01/20/2014 12:59:13 PM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Morgana

LGBTQIPPed


6 posted on 01/20/2014 12:59:40 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Viennacon

third world country

$$$ goes far


7 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Morgana
Hey they are just trying to fight global warming!
8 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:07 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Viennacon

It’s predatory on the women AND the babies. Once, decades ago, I did a surrogacy case and it made me feel dirty. It was a type of prostitution.


9 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:22 PM PST by Mercat
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To: Morgana

Echos of Moloch.


10 posted on 01/20/2014 1:00:48 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Morgana

“stuck”? More like “temporarily safe”


11 posted on 01/20/2014 1:01:53 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Mercat

This was called operation PMI

‘Pedophile meat incubation’


12 posted on 01/20/2014 1:03:20 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Morgana

People in Thailand must be the most desperate, and perverted people on Earth.

Women, and kids being used as sex objects for perverts from the west. Rampant STDs. Men becoming “transexuals”. And now women renting out their uterus to homos as a kid machine!


13 posted on 01/20/2014 1:04:38 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Just desperate.


14 posted on 01/20/2014 1:08:26 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: zipper

Maybe it is IVF with a third person’s egg.


15 posted on 01/20/2014 1:08:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Morgana

Future Child Abuse victims.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 1:11:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Morgana
I wonder how many of those unfortunate babies will be born with HIV…
17 posted on 01/20/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by cartan
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To: Morgana; Black Agnes
How repugnant this situation is.

We're getting a bigger and bigger eyeful of the meaning of the word "perversion," aren't we?

Babies are human and have rights, too. The most basic ones is to be born to a mother and father who have a legally recognized commitment to provide them with a stable personal identity, a place in their kinship system of origin, and support and sustenance. This idea of exploiting Asian women by rental of their bodies as reproductive concubines is barbaric. It reduces the gestational mother to an instrumental, sub-personal level, and completely abrogates the gestational bonding needs of the child. The concoction and purchase of children as lifestyle accessories is a violation of human rights at the most foundational level.

18 posted on 01/20/2014 1:28:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of interest.)
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To: Viennacon

Don’t blame the Thai woman. She’s probably really a girl and it beats 50 men a night in the brothel/


19 posted on 01/20/2014 1:29:05 PM PST by stellaluna
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To: Morgana

“surrogate babies “
There is no such thing as a surrogate baby. Baby = baby.

They mean “Baby taken from mother at birth and adopted and raised as if it were one’s own.”

“Will you have a baby for me? When the baby is born you give it to me and never see it again. Then I can call it my baby.”


20 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:06 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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65 surrogate babies born to Israeli gay couples stuck in Thailand

Case in point – Truth is stranger than fiction – and you can’t make this stuff up…

21 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:42 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In the 1800’s, wealthy women would buy their season of dresses from Worth in Paris. Trunks and trunks of dresses and accoutrements would be held up at customs while taxes were assesed.

These babies are just like those trunks of designer dresses to the LGBT’s. Status symbols.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:58 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Viennacon
hame on the Thai women who agreed to this

You have to be kidding. Shame instead on the Jewish fruitcakes who perpetrated these acts

23 posted on 01/20/2014 1:35:26 PM PST by turducken
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To: zipper; Mrs. Don-o

India is a popular source of “gestational carriers” as well, because there are lots of women poor enough to agree to it and reasonably good prenatal care.

It’s highly unlikely that any of the Thai women was the biological mother of the child she delivered, any more than the Indian women are. Most of the people manufacturing these babies are of European ethnicity, and they don’t want brown babies. They want babies who look somewhat like themselves. Iirc, the eggs are often bought from blonde Russian and Ukrainian women.


24 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:05 PM PST by Tax-chick (What did you think would happen?)
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To: Tax-chick

So the child will never know who their biological mother is — and if they did the real mother wouldn’t have anything to do with them.

It’s a Brave New World.


25 posted on 01/20/2014 2:59:06 PM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Morgana
Very misleading headline. These are babies born to Thai women, whatever claims the Israeli gay couples may have.

However it seems to me this is human trafficking. That is a serious international crime.

26 posted on 01/20/2014 3:00:25 PM PST by Salman
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To: zipper

It’s a horrible abuse of the women and the children.

The article seems to say that, under Thai law, the women are legally the mothers of the children. If they take money to turn the babies over to the sperm donors in Israel, it seems to be legal baby-selling.


27 posted on 01/20/2014 3:06:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (What did you think would happen?)
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To: Salman
However it seems to me that this is human trafficking

The whole concept makes me uncomfortable. Surrogacy is controversial and its morals questionable, even when it's close to home. But this long-distance cross-cultural/ethnic surrogacy is creepy and a terrible way for a child to come into the world. JMHO

Are these Thai girls confined during their pregnancy? How else would the biological parents be assured that this child is protected? Wouldn't that be a form of imprisonment of the surrogate mother?

28 posted on 01/20/2014 3:09:29 PM PST by grania
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To: VanDeKoik

People in Thailand must be the most desperate, and perverted people on Earth.

+++++++++++++++++

Ummmmm this happens in the States all the time.


29 posted on 01/20/2014 3:18:27 PM PST by Chickensoup (V)
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To: Mercat

It’s predatory on the women AND the babies.

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No one is forcing the women, from what I can see. All adults involved in this are scum.


30 posted on 01/20/2014 3:31:26 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 3:33:20 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Bigg Red
It’s predatory on the women AND the babies.

Exactly.

Otherwise why go to Thailand rather than arranging something with Israeli women? Could it be that Israeli women are not desperate and poor?

It is not just surrogacy, it is trafficking.

32 posted on 01/20/2014 3:49:23 PM PST by Salman
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The concoction and purchase of children as lifestyle accessories is a violation of human rights at the most foundational level.

That's right, whether the couple desiring the child is heterosexual or homosexual. With heterosexuals, there are professional couples who turn to surrogacy so that the mother doesn't have to lose time off work, and then there are some women who don't want to carry a child, because they don't want to lose their figures; selfish all.

33 posted on 01/20/2014 4:19:50 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mercat

Haven’t read past this, but some people have said gays are buying babies in third world countries. Apparently so.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 4:04:25 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: VanDeKoik

Are they perverted, or really poor, & able to be bought by low-life westerners?


35 posted on 01/21/2014 4:06:28 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes, homosexuals are exploiting third world women so they can purchase future boy toys. No wonder Russia outlawed adoption by countries that allow homosexuals to adopt.


36 posted on 01/21/2014 4:09:57 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Black Agnes

Do you think they have any love for these children, or are they shopping for accoutrements?


37 posted on 01/21/2014 4:13:10 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Tax-chick

Good point. How can this be legal?
I just read that paid surrogacy is illegal in NY city, but the homosexuals are busy working on it. Cuomo (?) will probably change it for them. No wonder Putin outlawed surrogacy with countries that allow homosexuals to adopt.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 4:18:30 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Morgana

All homosexuals are pedophiles, and they have no conscious reasoning that they are wrong.


39 posted on 01/21/2014 4:45:05 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax; Morgana
"All homosexuals are pedophiles"

I would dispute this. There may be statistics that show pedophilia to be more common among homosexuals, but what I've noted is that a small percentage of pederast-homosexuals (and heterosexuals) are responsible for a hugely disproportionate number of offenses. Like, if there were 500 offenses against youths, found in a group of 500 homosexuals, it would be 2 guys doing 250 each (just a conceptual example.)

The ones who are most Obsessive-Compulsive do an amount of aggressing which seems almost physically impossible. The grotesquerie of hell.

40 posted on 01/21/2014 4:55:57 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae, Dies illa, / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David et Sybilla.)
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To: fwdude

Except that children were burned to death for Moloch and the kids of gay couples just sneak to listen to Rush Limbaugh.

Actually, all the kids of gay parents that I know are simply mooches. A few complained that their parent’s friends “hit on them”. That’s like the ultimate creepy for that age group.


41 posted on 01/21/2014 5:03:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy
Actually, all the kids of gay parents that I know...

Know that many, huh?

42 posted on 01/21/2014 6:46:31 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Actually, yes. College town.


43 posted on 01/21/2014 6:47:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Salman

It is not just surrogacy, it is trafficking.

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True. But, unless these women have been forced somehow, they are part of the crime.


44 posted on 01/21/2014 8:25:28 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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