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'Imagine: Living in a Socialist America'
American Thinker ^ | 1/20/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/21/2014 7:07:11 AM PST by rktman

That's the title of a new book by Fred Jerome, a compilation of essays from these and other noteworthies:

This anthology features essays by revolutionary thinkers, activists, and artists-including Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore, civil rights activist Angela Davis, incarcerated journalist Mumia Abu Jamal, and economist Rick Wolff- addressing various aspects of a new society and, crucially, how to get from where we are now to where we want to be, living in a society that is truly fair and just.

I suppose that's one way to describe their vision. I might ask the question, "fair and just for whom"? But that would make me a party pooper.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
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Sounds like utopia to me. NOT! Just the list of folks picked to be quoted is enough to make ya puke. But then again, sadly, there's a lot of asshats who believe this tripe. So if we get rid of corporate America etc., what are the workers working for if there isn't anything TO work for? Nothing to achieve. No goal other than to be an acceptable drone? (Not the one looking over your shoulder above your house) Who's in charge? How are the living compared to the "workers"? Nice try there freddy boy. Next.
1 posted on 01/21/2014 7:07:11 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

That’s living?

How many people came to the USA to get away from socialism? “Socialist America” is an oxymoron.


2 posted on 01/21/2014 7:12:55 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: rktman
We got a good look at socialism with Billy Carter's brother Jimmy. Bill Klinton gave us some more insight. Allen Barry Sorto Barack Husein Obama gave us almost full treatment.
3 posted on 01/21/2014 7:14:28 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: rktman
. . . Academy Award-winninghyperbolic polemic fiction filmmaker Michael Moore, civil rights activist judge murdering co-conspirator Angela Davis, incarcerated journalistconvicted cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal, . . .

There. Fixed it.

4 posted on 01/21/2014 7:15:44 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rktman

That’s not very taxing to the imagination.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 7:18:29 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Vigilanteman

I know. The descriptors the “author” used are “right on the money”. LOLOLOLOL! Not! Journalist? It’s like hambone jamal wrote something and used incorrect punctuation and that landed him in jail. Asshats all.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 7:19:57 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

We do not have to imagine very much what it would be like to live in a “Socialist America”. We have already traveled a good distance down that road.

“Obamacare”, though it was a quantum leap, still is not all the way there. There is, after all, a great deal of freedom in determining with whom we shall choose to spend our lives, and most of us have not been prosecuted for what has surely become some series of “unlawful” acts we commit on a daily basis. But according to the climate in today’s world, and particularly that territory once known as “the United States of America”, the laws do not reflect actual criminal activity, and even then, they are enforced in a capricious and unpredictable manner, and are often at contradictory and unresolved differences with any real criminal behavior.


7 posted on 01/21/2014 7:21:14 AM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: alloysteel

We ARE living in a socialist America.

Nicaraguans under Communist dictator Ortega are freer than we are......


8 posted on 01/21/2014 7:22:36 AM PST by Arlis
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To: rktman


Tens of thouands of socialist true believers swarmed to the "worker's paradise" following "The Revolution". It didn't turn out well for them at all, at all.
9 posted on 01/21/2014 7:28:38 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: rktman

Any attempt to institute socialism in America must not simply be defeated. It must be destroyed.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 7:35:49 AM PST by Signalman
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To: rktman
Imagine living in a Socialist America

The only question is, whose skulls will form the mounds? Theirs, or ours?

11 posted on 01/21/2014 7:38:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: mountainlion

Reread the history books about Nazi Germany and then compare it to this Regime.


12 posted on 01/21/2014 7:41:51 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rktman

From the article:
“Discussions, debates, even battles will continue, and social justice committees will be elected by the union membership to look into complaints and to dig up and root out capitalist, racist, and sexist weeds that continue to grow.

Get that? You are probably a “weed” that needs to be “rooted out.” Your neighbors will be encouraged to report your anti-revolutionary behavior - or report you for that because you kicked their dog.

On such trivialities and metaphors are people lined up against the wall and shot.”


13 posted on 01/21/2014 7:46:47 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: rktman
a society that is truly fair and just.

As is so often the case, the problem here is with definitions.

When it comes to economics, which is the real issue under discussion, there are two definitions for "fair."

1. Equal distribution.

2. Distribution in proportion to contribution.

The two are of course inherently in conflict.

Capitalism is based on #2, socialism on #1.

Neither implements its root principle fully, but that's what they're shooting for.

14 posted on 01/21/2014 8:23:51 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: rktman

One chapter is out there on the interweb. Basically calls for the nationalization of Fox News. Of all media actually. How would news then be disseminated without EEEEEVIL corporations involved? By “community groups and public stakeholders”. Dig into the boilerplate of what the hell that means, and basically, it means unions.

So stories about Miley Cyrus’ twerking and Richard Sherman’s histrionics would be replaced by stories about how Joe Blow down at the meat packing plant is getting SCROOOOD by his bosses.

And how would these “journalists” be paid? With big public subsidies, of course.

My theory is that they are trying to push the ball down the field as far as they can rhetorically, so that when Obama only gets us halfway there we’ll all go “phew!” and breathe a big sigh of relief.


15 posted on 01/21/2014 9:20:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman

From the article:
“An excerpt of the book appears in Salon. It’s long, but well worth the read.”

with this link:

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/18/lets_nationalize_fox_news_imagining_a_very_different_media/

I’ll get back to this thread later.


16 posted on 01/21/2014 10:07:54 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Okay, I’ll bite. If for nothing else, more info on what “they” would like to do to us.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 10:09:19 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

From the American Thinker article, there was this line from the media ownership bit:

“In a socialist society a portion of the media would be reserved for news disseminated by the democratically elected governing bodies, that is, working people elected by and for working people.”

So they would be like the EPA, eh? We elect someone, somewhere down the line and unelected, unaccountable, idelogical bureaucrats write their own laws?

And no “equal time” for counter viewpoints?


18 posted on 01/21/2014 10:10:45 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: rktman
Yep, that's why I'll occasionally dig into such drek.

George Orwell thought the same (once he'd seen the light as to the true nature of western Stalinist socialism).

19 posted on 01/21/2014 10:12:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: rktman; GeronL
See what I mean about hysterically funny? In Jerome's America,the UAW has their own TV and radio networks, newspapers, blogs - and they're going to allow potential safety hazards to be discussed and criticize the union openly for all to hear?

"Da! Is funny, no?"


20 posted on 01/21/2014 10:15:38 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Probably lost in the ether, but, uh, do these asshats ever wonder who pays the salaries, who pays for raw materials etc. That could go on for a pretty long list of what these socialist don’t know or don’t want to know. I guess obamabucks pays for everything. Lucky for us the whole thing wasn’t posted and I sure as heck ain’t using my EBT card to buy the book. Oh, wait. I don’t qualify for an EBT card. (yet) :>)


21 posted on 01/21/2014 10:18:25 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

Union dues and taxes would pay for everything the government is providing.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 10:20:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: rktman

And without commercial advertising, the need for distinction in the marketplace would diminish.

You would buy STATE SODA and like it, comrade.

Or else off to the gulags with you, you little resistant weed!

So much for “freedom of choice”.

Socialism is slavery to the State.


23 posted on 01/21/2014 10:22:01 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Oh yeah. The union dues. Wonder how the union heads are living? Wonder what trumpkas secret dacha looks like.


24 posted on 01/21/2014 10:22:36 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Yugo” anyone? Any color as long as it’s black.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 10:23:42 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
“Yugo” anyone? Any color as long as it’s black.

"....And they drive with pride...."

26 posted on 01/21/2014 10:24:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: rktman

What’s scarier is that the libtards at Salon (which is funded by generous benefactors considering it was an unsound investment and fell of the stock market) are orgasmic with the thought of supressing Rush Limbaugh’s broadcasts and nationalizing the media (and all industries).

Pro-censorship voices from the intolerant (militant) Left.

I posted the Salon link above (where the author cited it). Here is how Salon led into the piece:

Saturday, Jan 18, 2014 2:45 PM UTC
Let’s nationalize Fox News: Imagining a very different media
Bye, Rush! If corporate media disappeared, and the people had their voices heard, here’s what it might look like
by Fred Jerome


27 posted on 01/21/2014 10:26:13 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: rktman

All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others. Now back to work.


28 posted on 01/21/2014 10:26:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Jim Noble

Which loving shepherd of the people can we thank for that pile of bones? Pol Pot?


29 posted on 01/21/2014 10:29:23 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: rktman

Imagine 200 death and reeduction camps


30 posted on 01/21/2014 10:32:31 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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