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NYPD cops beat an old man bloody…for jaywalking
The Daily Caller ^ | January 20, 2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 01/21/2014 7:22:23 AM PST by mandaladon

The New York Police Department is receiving widespread criticism after officers injured an 84-year-old man—who doesn’t speak English and didn’t understand police orders—for the crime of jaywalking.

Kang Wong committed jaywalking at an Upper West Side intersection in New York City around 5 p.m. on Sunday, according to the New York Post. He is a resident of the area.

An officer soon approached him and tried to write him a ticket. But Wong, who speaks only broken English, didn’t understand what was happening, and continued walking away from the officer. When the officer tried to grab him, he pushed back. This prompted the fury of several cops, who descended on Wong and threw him against a wall. The elderly man came away from the encounter with a bloodied face. (RELATED: Cop was at fault in car crash, but guess who got blamed)

Wong was handcuffed and taken to the hospital and then the police station.

Wong’s 41-year-old son met his father at the station. He was shocked by what police had done.

“Oh, great! Beating up on an 84-year-old man for jaywalking,” said the son in a statement.

Later that night, Wong was released, but will face charges of jaywalking, resisting arrest, obstructing governmental administration and disorderly conduct.

The incident was witnessed by several reporters who were on-scene because a pedestrian had been killed when crossing the street hours earlier.

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Cowardly cops in Cuomo's liberal heaven.

1 posted on 01/21/2014 7:22:23 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

The fight didn’t start because of jaywalking. It started because the guy walked off and then he pushed the cops when they stopped him again. Yeah, it’s a bad situation but it’s not like they threw him to the ground because he was out of the crosswalk.


2 posted on 01/21/2014 7:24:41 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: mandaladon

Beat him again and throw the book at him. He shoulda learned the language before he went wandering our streets.

Repeatedly taser the old fart! And before every jolt, scream at him “SPEEKEE ENGRISH? NO JAY WALKEEE!!”


3 posted on 01/21/2014 7:26:18 AM PST by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: mandaladon
Cops seem to suffer some kind of Little Ceasar syndrome ... just can't STAND to be ignored or disobeyed.

It's not the 'crime' that infutriates them, they expect crime to occur and it's, Hey, part of the job, y'know?

But to ignore or disobey (for whatever reason) ... NOW you've dome it!

Mortal Sin, Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, immediate retribution with the help of at least two other men.

I'd take the money you win and go back to China ... some provincial place .. and live like a king at the exchange rate.

4 posted on 01/21/2014 7:28:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: mandaladon

>> obstructing governmental administration

How “1984”.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 7:30:21 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: mandaladon

I wonder if this is Stop and Frisk 2.0, with the added wrinkle that they need stats showing they’re not picking on blacks, so they hassle hundreds of thousands of non-blacks whom they don’t remotely suspect of drug or weapon possession. This could tank de Blasio’s poll ratings big time.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 7:31:02 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: mandaladon

84 y/o. I wonder what if he were the cop’s father


7 posted on 01/21/2014 7:31:30 AM PST by Rannug
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To: mandaladon

They had to beat him bloody to save him. But don’t worry, the police have investigated and have declared that the officers acted correctly.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 7:33:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: mandaladon

Nah, just yellow girbilism from the leftist press.
Read more accounts.

Basic story, guy gets written a ticket for jaywalking.
Guy tries to walk off as the officer is writing.
Officer grabs guy.
Guy initiates shoving match and tries to flee.
Officer shoves the guy to the ground, which (being concrete) scrapes him up.
Officer calls for more cops, and the guy is taken to Saint Lukes Hospital.
The end.

No anal cavity search on the sidewalk.
No continuous beating with billy clubs.
They didn’t taze him, bro.
No dogs were shot.
Nobody was sexually groped.
No doors were smashed in a no knock raid.

None of the thug behavior that warants a donutwatch thread.
If you get a ticket, just take it home and pay it later.
If you go to a foreign country, learn the language and don’t start a shoving match with the cops. Even if (or especially if) you are past your prime.

Thats this whole story in a nutshell.


9 posted on 01/21/2014 7:33:20 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: mandaladon


10 posted on 01/21/2014 7:37:02 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: mandaladon

Unless he is gay, he’s just going to have to take it. The city is run by liberals now.


11 posted on 01/21/2014 7:37:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: thefactor
The fight didn’t start because of jaywalking. It started because the guy walked off and then he pushed the cops when they stopped him again. Yeah, it’s a bad situation but it’s not like they threw him to the ground because he was out of the crosswalk

Appears true but maybe this guy did what we Americans should all do? Fight against aggressive authority and the selective enforcement of laws.

How much crime & corruption in NY? how many illegals walking around including caught and released yet police resources (our taxes) are used to stop people from using adult judgment to cross a street for their own good?

12 posted on 01/21/2014 7:44:52 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: MrEdd

84 year old people should be treated with respect. They may not be able to see, hear, or think clearly.

I don’t want to live in a world like this. I will resist heartless, impersonal, heavy handed government at every turn. A small government conservative can do no less. Small government means a weaker, less pervasive government. Small government means bigger individuals. Bigger individuals means more personal responsibility. Responsibility to take care of the people around us.

Jaywalking laws are designed to protect people, ensure safety, and make society better.

How does jacking up, beating up and ticketing an old man do any of that? Was he jay walking? Yup. If safety and a better society is the goal, and there are a crowd of cops around, get the guy safely across the street. Isn’t that the job? Isn’t the job to keep people safe? Or is the job taking money from old men, antagonizing citizens and beating the crap out them? Is the job handing out sanction or preserving life? What is the purpose of cops, traffic laws, courts, judges? Tell me, what is the purpose?

Is it to better society? Or are these laws just designed to flex municipal power? I can tell you what the purpose of these laws are. The purpose of these laws is whatever we make of them. Which do you choose? Safety and well being of society, or just flexing the muscles of city hall?


13 posted on 01/21/2014 7:49:37 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They had to beat him bloody to save him. But don’t worry, the police have investigated and have declared that the officers acted correctly.

Well, yeah. They did. They got home safe at the end of their shifts, didn't they? That's all that matters....

14 posted on 01/21/2014 7:50:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: mandaladon

Two wongs don’t make a right..................


15 posted on 01/21/2014 7:52:24 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: NativeSon
It's the proverbial rock and a hard place. No body really cares about jaywalking. Everybody does it. However, four people have been killed in that intersection in the not-too-distant past. The community has been screaming for the cops to do something, anything to stop it.

So cops are there everyday giving out tickets to drivers who make bad turns or run lights. Then word comes down that it's not just the cars fault. Pedestrians wreak havoc as well. So set up a jaywalking checkpoint.

Basically this is another case of if the cops do nothing they get hammered for it. If the cops take action, they get hammered for it. You just can't win.

16 posted on 01/21/2014 7:53:18 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: mandaladon

Welcome to the brave new world of Socialist DiBlasio!

Consumed by new power, he and Bratton decide to crack down on jaywalking by putting cops on dangerous corners and hand out tickets.

Makes sense, but, an adult would have mounted a campaign for a couple of weeks to warn the population that they were going to start enforcing laws completely ignored for 40 years.

The next four years are going to be a disaster in NYC. This is just a sign of how incompetent this amateur hour Mayor is going to be.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 7:53:35 AM PST by dan on the right
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To: Iron Munro

Love your pic man! I got arrested for jaywalk trying to protest on a median...it sucks!


18 posted on 01/21/2014 7:57:32 AM PST by magna carta
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To: mandaladon

Just wondering how many cops were bullied in school. This is disgusting.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 7:58:29 AM PST by Lexinom
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To: thefactor

“The fight didn’t start because of jaywalking. It started because the guy walked off and then he pushed the cops when they stopped him again. Yeah, it’s a bad situation but it’s not like they threw him to the ground because he was out of the crosswalk.”

So do I take it that you condone the cops behavior? BTW, one of his sons is a lawyer and I hope that there’s a huge lawsuit coming. This is about as bad as the a$$hole cops in New Mexico taking the guy from a traffic stop in for a COLONOSCOPY in search of drugs up his bunghole! That guy has just settled with the cops and the city for $1.6 million and now is on with his suits against the doctors and the hospital. I just hope this old man gets a huge payday from all of those “liberals” in NYC.
You might want to go to the Daily Caller article and read about the other cop outrages du jour. Read about the 16 year old kid who had his testicles squeezed to hard by a female cop doing a “pat down” that she managed to rupture them.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 8:00:33 AM PST by vette6387
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To: MrEdd

I’m not sure that your rhetorical style is going to have the effect you are looking for.

Excusing this group of cops (who apparently needed backup to handle this 84 year old guy) by listing out of all the God-awful things cops have done to folks in recent memory looks more like an indictment than a defense.

I think the notion of proportionate response should make a comeback.


21 posted on 01/21/2014 8:01:21 AM PST by dmz
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To: DariusBane

If you want to be treated with respect, don’t start a shoving match.
Period.
Age doesn’t give you a pass.
Not speaking the language doesn’t give you a pass.

There is zero sign that Mr. Wong was ever “disrespected”.
Because respect doesn’t preclude being brought to the ground when you initiate a shoving match with the cops.

Maybe your point is that you feel we shouldn’t have traffic laws, or that you feel traffic laws (specifically pedestrians not step out in front of cars on a busy street) should not be enforced? If that is where you are going say that outright.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 8:01:52 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: dmz

The response was proportionate. The old man kept escalating the situation until he got hurt.

You sometimes can’t fix people who are determined to act stupid like mister Wong.


23 posted on 01/21/2014 8:04:44 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: vette6387

I didn’t say I condone it. I wasn’t there. But I have enough police experience to know there’s always more to the story. I don’t simply swallow the medias narrative hook, line, and sinker.


24 posted on 01/21/2014 8:09:34 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: MrEdd

You and your like minded ilk are why we live the way we live. It is a choice we make. You have made yours.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 8:09:52 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: thefactor

Only a cop could call this a fight.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 8:12:26 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Altercation? Row? Fisticuffs? How many euphemisms would you like? Does it really matter?

You'd probably prefer the term "police brutality" but you'd be wrong.

27 posted on 01/21/2014 8:15:12 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: MrEdd

Is the basis for your certainty the news reports quoting the cops?

I didn’t think we yet had video of the event.


28 posted on 01/21/2014 8:17:28 AM PST by dmz
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To: Red Badger

“Two wongs don’t make a right....”

Two Wongs don’t make a white...fixed it./sarc


29 posted on 01/21/2014 8:20:46 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: thefactor

“I didn’t say I condone it.”

Well, I do! There is really absolutely no justification for a cop assaulting an 84 year old non-English speaking person, none. For you to suggest that some “media narrative” makes any difference when you look at what happened, is incomprehensible to me. In my 73 years, I have watch the “metamorphosis” of LEO’s from people you could look to for some measure of protection, to a bunch of thugs who seemingly relish the idea that they can, and do, get away with this kind of abuse with impunity.
From my up close former relationship by reason of marriage to our town’s first chief of police I can tell you that no one should be allowed to remain in law enforcement their entire life. The kind of person these people become by reason of their “employment in law enforcement” is chilling. They loose all balance and perspective, treating everything that passes before them as a law enforcement problem and all people as lawbreakers. I have a Black friend who was, for ten years a cop with the Los Angles Police Department. He left because he could no longer be a party to the policies of abusing citizens as his primary job function. So, while there may well be some decent people in law enforcement, it isn’t the norm. I only hope that change takes place before the citizens take these situations into their own hands.


30 posted on 01/21/2014 8:26:17 AM PST by vette6387
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To: thefactor

Sure. If the objective of City Hall is to curb pedestrian/automobile accidents I can think of a whole lot of creative ways to do this, without resorting to force and sanction. Does nobody in politics have any imagination any more?

If you have an area with a problem, flood the area with cops. Have the cops educate, cajole, spread good will. People don’t WANT to be hit by cars. Cars don’t WANT to hit peds. If you start from that perspective you could actually get willing compliance with people. Once you pull out sanction, force, boots and beatings you lose the willingness of people to comply. It hard to understand, it’s not rocket science, but it goes against the grain of how people think about groups of people.

The bottom line is that cops and City Hall need people to cooperate with them. At this point in time a vast chasm separates people, City Hall and cops. Each side looks at the other with well earned distrust. So City Hall rolls out the boots, clubs and sanction. Cops being cops are almost always happy to crack a head or two, and they don’t really care who’s head they crack.

The People just think F-You copper and do what they do when no cops are around.

Doesn’t ever seem to work does it?


31 posted on 01/21/2014 8:32:05 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: mandaladon

No place for pro lifers, second ammendment advocates, Tea partiers, or elderly jaywalkers in New York.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 8:33:29 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: mandaladon

No place for pro lifers, second ammendment advocates, Tea partiers, or elderly jaywalkers in New York.


33 posted on 01/21/2014 8:34:44 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: mandaladon

I am elderly and can imagine myself being confused and disoriented when being yelled at by a policeman. Perhaps not to the extent of this 84 yo but I may get there. The police know that in today’s America, they must be feared in order that they can control the citizens.

As to the language, I am losing the languages I don’t daily use as I age. English is my only clear language now as the others are not often used.

This is yet another sign of the police state and of the societal impatience with the old who are considered a burden leaching off the youth.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 8:44:08 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


35 posted on 01/21/2014 8:46:59 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


36 posted on 01/21/2014 8:46:59 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


37 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:00 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


38 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:01 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


39 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:01 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)


40 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:03 AM PST by Fighter@heart (The government cares NOT 1 iota about your health, only about your WEALTH!!!)
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To: mandaladon

NYPD cops are trained at the Fullerton, CA police academy.


41 posted on 01/21/2014 8:49:06 AM PST by SkyDancer (Imagine a world without politicians, lawyers and federal judges.)
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To: thefactor
I know but it's the same thing the left does with the 2nd Amendment
42 posted on 01/21/2014 8:55:09 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: mandaladon

In the Wong place at the wong time.


43 posted on 01/21/2014 9:55:07 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: mandaladon
NYPD cops beat an old man bloody…for jaywalking

Call me an insensitive mindless clod, but...
First of all, I take strong issue with the headline, which sets the stage for the entire article.

The man was NOT arrested for jaywalking; he was arrested for failure to respond, and pushing an officer.

Next, let's confirm a reality ALL adults are or should be aware of : failure to respond to a police officer will get you in serious trouble in any country in the world. Most, much more serious than 'getting bloody.'
Not learning the language in a country foreign to you has its penalty and consequences, and unless you are prepared to argue that foreigners, young and old, are too stupid to learn the host country's language, there really is no excuse.
Most socially mature persons would never push back on a police officer no matter what in a foreign country.

I suppose this politically correctness idiot product has a driver's license, too.

44 posted on 01/21/2014 10:09:55 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: knarf
Right on all counts; but cursing the darknss is not a solution. Since we all must deal with it, and it's inescapable (like tolerating Obama,) does it not make sense not to provoke them?

Would this moron provoke a pack of pit bulls?
Common sense is language-independent.

45 posted on 01/21/2014 10:15:55 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Only a cop could call this a fight.

They didn't.
The progressive bleeding-heart liberal MSM did.

As for calling for reinforcements, it prevents making an arrest with major damage. See it all the time, when it's documented : the insane, the drugged, the senile, the 'nothing to lose' criminal...

47 posted on 01/21/2014 10:28:08 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911

Find the word “fight” in the linked story, then get back to me.


48 posted on 01/21/2014 10:41:06 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Find the word “fight” in the linked story, then get back to me.

I would, except that I am from California, and stuck in Alexandra VA, flying home tomorrow... I think.

And I have more immediate things to worry about. Like finding a dog sled to get to the airport...

49 posted on 01/21/2014 11:02:22 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911

New York is dead to me.


50 posted on 01/21/2014 11:24:58 AM PST by Cowgirl
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