Skip to comments.Goodell: NFL may consider scrapping PATs, adding excitement to TDs
Posted on 01/21/2014 10:03:45 AM PST by nikos1121
Earlier this season, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick told reporters that extra points in football were boring because they have become so automatic, and now it appears commissioner Roger Goodell might agree.
In fact, on Monday, Goodell appeared on NFL Networks Total Access, and took things a step further than Belichick, indicating that the leagues competition committee could consider eliminating the PAT altogether.
One of the things the committee does besides looking first at the safety issues (is) looking to see, Are there any plays in the game that, really, are not consequential? Goodell told host Rich Eisen. And one of the issues that has happened is that the extra point is almost automatic.
Goodell is right enough there. The NFL only saw five missed extra points this regular season one each from Green Bay, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Philadelphia in 1,267 tries. And the active kicker with the worst PAT conversion rate is Graham Gano, who has made 97.6 percent of his regular-season kicks since coming into the league four seasons ago.
But if football actually did do away with the extra point, then what would happen after a touchdown?
You want to add excitement with every play, Goodell said. So there have been some proposals. Some are still going through the process of creativity, but theres one proposal in particular that Ive heard about (where) its automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball. But if you fail, youd go back to six.
Its certainly an interesting idea that would force coaches to rethink the way they approach certain game situations, but before you start thinking about how such a rule might impact the 17th round of your fantasy draft next year, take a breath because Goodell, in his interview, also made it clear that the proposal he discussed is just that.
We often get a lot of ideas that are thrown out, Goodell said. The committee will look at all of them and decide what is worthy of further consideration.
Theres some issues, and it goes back to
unintended consequences, he continued. You want to be careful there; is that going to discourage people from going for two? We want to make sure we look at some of that, and thats what the committee does. Theyll make, obviously, some focus on this in the committee and see where they come out.
Don’t agree. If it’s too routine then move the ball back to the twenty or twenty five and kick from there.
I think if you convert a two-point conversion, you should get the ball back.
I know, we'll call it a "rouge."
I like your ideas.
Or make the PAT substantially more difficult...maybe from the 40 yard line.
Make a bonus play opportunity. 2 points, no kicking.
Replace the place kick with the old drop kick?
Goodell is trying to ruin the NFL.
They gonna’ fix it ‘til it’s broke, ain’t they?
Touchdown = 7 points....then put the ball on the 25 yard line and allow one shot at the endzone for 3 points. No kicking.
To clarify, you should have the option of running the 2-point conversion from the 2 as normal, where you would have to kick off....Or, try to convert from the 10, where if you do convert, the other team has to kick the ball back to you. Gives teams down in the fourth quarter a better chance to comeback without relying on onside kicks.
perhaps; but if the NFL could be ruined by extra points/no extra points, it wasn’t going to survive anyway
Why not just make each touch down worth 1 point. Each successful field goal worth +3 points and each missed field goal worth - 6 points. Touch backs will be worth 0 points.
that should liven things up.
I think that’s what the WFL did back in the 1970s.
But they also may do away with kickoffs for safety concerns.
Haha. Good one.
I say go all the way and eliminate punting. If you eliminate Field Goals, even if you turn the ball over on your own 20, there’s no other guarantee the other team is going to score.
Goodell: NFL may consider scrapping PATs, adding excitement to TDs
That would be RACIST!!! one of the last skill sets where whites excel would be eliminated.
Maybe they should play it indoors with smaller fields - about the size of a hockey rink and add more narrow goal posts with nets on the side...oh wait...never mind.
The only changes that should be made is if you block and extra point, you should be able to return it for that same point. If you pick off a pass on a two point conversion or recover a fumble, you should be able to return it for the same two.
They could scrap the extra point kick, and require that you go for the two point conversion or nothing at all. They could require that the extra point be kicked from much farther away. They could do various things to add excitement to that play. I agree that the extra point has no excitement, when they make it 99+ % of the time.
Heck, even top relief pitchers in baseball only save about 90% of their save opportunities. Free throws in basketball are also in the low 90% range for the best there. Can’t think of anything else in sports which is so automatic as football’s extra point.
Heck, nowadays 50+ yard field goals are automatic.
...or take off points if it's "the worm"....:o)
Once you change the rules, they need to stop comparing records with past years.
My thoughts exactly!
He also wants to get rid of kick-offs
Maybe indoors, but not outside, especially in the winter.
I have an idea...Let’s lengthen the field to 110 yards....and how ‘bout this, they only get 3 downs instead of four....And we lengthen the end zone from 10 to 25 yards. I wonder what that would look like?
Bingo. He’s trying to build his legacy as the guy who made the game safer and more exciting. This game is quickly becoming unrecognizable.
just do what they do in the suburban Marxist wonderlands with kids sports and not keep score at all.
saves all the wear and tear on coaching decisions, and, everyone gets a superbowl trophy for trying.
Some things are better left alone. This is one of those.
No shoes for the place kicker...what might change things up.
I recommend muzzles&dead mics for sideline reporters and defensive backs after ‘in yur face’ plays.
The game is lost.. and so are a lot of fans who endured the crap the game has turned into.
It’s at the point now where the moment to game ends, I switch it off, I don’t care to watch the post-game celebrations and interviews....Glad I did that after the NFC Title game.
I don't like the guy at all.
but from the economic point of view, he's a huge success.
What a great idea!
Agreed on the drop kick idea, better yet eliminate all place kicks, short field goals are practically just as automatic as PATs.
How about if you go out of bounds, the ball gets turned over to the other team? H’mmm, perhaps they could have a designated hitter instead of a kicker. For the extra point a guy is given a baseball bat and has to hit the ball into the end zone?
My bottom line. Football scoring isn’t broken, thus no need to “fix it.” Of course the criminals will always try to bribe someone in order to fix the game.
I’ll go one better. Have both offenses on the field at the same time, lined up against each other at the 50. Coaches decide how to divvy up their 11 players between offense and defense. New line of scrimmage is set where the team who advanced the most was downed. Pandemonium!
Why don’t they just make the point after kick a playable act. If the opposing teams blocks it, the ball is in play.
Will make the players work harder to block it. Also add if the kicking team recovers and puts it in the endzone it is 2 points.
Problem solved with minimal effort.
The sudden death situation is what makes overtime exciting and regulation play a total waste of time once the winning team gains possession in the final seconds.
They could do a scrum like in Rugby.
Do you speak Canadian?
Haha.... That’s actually a game changer and much more appealing that the onside kick
Just make running/passing the ball 3 points — that’s some motivation to do something else.
Exactly, keep the ball until the other team stops you.