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Crisis Reality: “Within An Hour the Stores Were Emptied”
SHTF Plan ^ | 1/21/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 01/21/2014 2:10:45 PM PST by Kartographer

When toxic chemicals spilled into the Elk River in Charleston, West Virginia a couple of weeks ago we got another glimpse into what the world might look like in the aftermath of a major, widespread disaster.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: chemicalspill; disaster; preparedness; preppers; storesemptied; survival; westvirginia
Lesson #1: There will be immediate panic


1 posted on 01/21/2014 2:10:45 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 01/21/2014 2:11:11 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

People looted the snack shelves because there was a chem spill?


3 posted on 01/21/2014 2:12:00 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Kartographer

well....this pic tells me short folk are screwed


4 posted on 01/21/2014 2:12:16 PM PST by advertising guy (givin Iran, ian oil producing country, billions, is like givin Texas cattle cause they can grow hay)
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To: Kartographer

Hence my post on your other thread ...


5 posted on 01/21/2014 2:15:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kartographer
The story says that the stores sold out of bottled water, which is hardly a surprise. I don't think that anyone in the area actually died from dehydration.
6 posted on 01/21/2014 2:22:08 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: nascarnation
It's the first thing on my emergency checklist.

/johnny

7 posted on 01/21/2014 2:22:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Isn’t that a store in Chicago after a visit by a flash mob of local yutes ?


8 posted on 01/21/2014 2:24:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: iowamark

If such a minnor disruption cause such choas what would you think would happen if some real SHTF came?


9 posted on 01/21/2014 2:24:34 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: advertising guy

Down in Florida my grandma use to call all the short old ladies in the stores “bottom Feeders”...


10 posted on 01/21/2014 2:26:29 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: UCANSEE2; iowamark

http://freepatriot.org/2014/01/10/breaking-residents-loot-grocery-stores-wv-chemical-spill-contaminates-drinking-water-300000/


11 posted on 01/21/2014 2:27:29 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Abathar

mean , ain’t we

lolololol


12 posted on 01/21/2014 2:34:59 PM PST by advertising guy (givin Iran, ian oil producing country, billions, is like givin Texas cattle cause they can grow hay)
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To: Kartographer

“Immediately after the announcement, the stores in the area were rushed for any bottled water products. Within an hour the stores were emptied.”

People who read your threads will spend that hour loading some surprises up as they are already prepared


13 posted on 01/21/2014 2:36:39 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Kartographer

If you read the story that accompanied the picture and headline, there was NO looting. What we did see was bottled water selling out rapidly from stores 100 miles from the problem area. Coca Cola was making emergency deliveries of water to Walmart.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 2:38:01 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Kartographer

Yep.

Glad I have some backup water at home.


16 posted on 01/21/2014 2:38:33 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Kartographer

Very scary.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 2:40:38 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: Kartographer
Aww come on! I was there when it happened it was not as bad as that pictures shows!

Plus to the credit of all the emergency personal/volunteers who helped distribute water all over the county I say "two thumbs up". Yes a lot of us had to go without showers but we at least had drinking water.

18 posted on 01/21/2014 2:41:09 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: meatloaf

I look forward to your reply to post #9 this thread.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 2:44:40 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Plus with 24 hours our local Wal Mart had tons of water in stock!

Not only that Wal Mart actually rolled back the prices! Instead of .88 cents for a gallon it was only .55 cents. So no one can accuse Wal Mart of price gouging.

Seriously I was happy to see how this was handled.

Now lets find the idiot who put the hole in the pipes, or at least that is what the rumor going around is.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 2:45:16 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: nascarnation

“People looted the snack shelves because there was a chem spill?”

Not that I heard of. Seriously and I would have been the first to report it had it happened. If you recall I was the one who first started posting on this and followed it through.


21 posted on 01/21/2014 2:49:04 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: nascarnation

Speaking g from experience the first thing that go are bottled drinks and foods which are ready to eat. They go fast.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 2:49:41 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Morgana

Kudos to Walmart. Say what you what, but if the government was to privatize disaster recovery operations I would bet a organization like Walmart would leave FEMA in the dust!


23 posted on 01/21/2014 2:50:53 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: driftdiver

They go fast but I was in the stores when this happened and I was in the Capitol City when the news broke. There was a stampede on water but the shelves did not look like the one in that picture and I was in several stores. People were in a hurry and concerned but not to the point of panic that they did crap like that.

Most people came in stores and asked “do you have water?” If they did not have water people just bought cola, juice or other drinks by the cart load. Were no fights or disorder. To tell you the truth was a bigger shopping day than Black Friday.


24 posted on 01/21/2014 2:55:27 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Kartographer

I have to agree with that. WalMart really came through. I can’t speak for other stores because I was not able to make it out to any others but my local Wal Mart must have brought in several semi’s of water because not only did they have it in the front of the store but tons of it piled high in the back waiting to be put up front.

All kinds of bottled water too. Water by the gallon or those individual servings. They dropped the prices on all of them because of this.

On top of this many churches, fire departments, other groups were giving away free water in every city. It was all over the news where people could go for the “water stations”.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 3:01:18 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: advertising guy

Add stilts to bug out bag.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 3:18:05 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

lmao....series...my sides hurt......brilliant !


27 posted on 01/21/2014 3:20:24 PM PST by advertising guy (givin Iran, ian oil producing country, billions, is like givin Texas cattle cause they can grow hay)
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To: advertising guy; Scrambler Bob
Better yet!!


28 posted on 01/21/2014 3:27:40 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

bring it.........but the stilts keep ya outta the pee.....so there’s that


29 posted on 01/21/2014 3:33:10 PM PST by advertising guy (givin Iran, ian oil producing country, billions, is like givin Texas cattle cause they can grow hay)
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To: Kartographer
“If such a minor disruption cause such choas what would you think would happen if some real SHTF came?”

Here is the reality:
Before Hurricane Ike came in at Galveston, there were days to prepare. When it came through Houston, as soon as it passed Houston, I saw on TV people demanding water and food right that minute - I mean immediately. I couldn't believe my eyes - they didn't have one bottle of water and no food.

I thought about that, why that would happen. I think those people saw this hurricane as a way to get “free stuff”. They planned it this way - don't spend money on water and food - wait for the free stuff the govn. will give you. In an emergency that hits the whole country, free stuff won't be there and these people will be the first to die.

An extended family member of my husband's during that time called us to brag about the fact he got some free water and ice from FEMA! - absolutely free!, they gave it to him. He was beside himself that he got that free stuff. He wanted to know if we got free stuff. I told him we had two large ice chests and an insulated water jug full of ice WE BOUGHT and we had over a hundred gallons of OUR good water stored. He said, “You are better off than I am.” He sounded sad that we had all that. My estimation of that man's worth to the world, hit the bottom.

So, consider there are some people who won't store ANYTHING no matter the problem because they are depending on FEMA and free stuff.

30 posted on 01/21/2014 3:36:20 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: driftdiver

“Speaking g from experience the first thing that go are bottled drinks...”

Except for one juice. That afternoon before Ike came through, I realized I had a kidney infection and was on the phone to the doctor to get antibiotics before the drug store closed. I sent my husband during that time to the store to get Cranberry juice for the infection. The store was totally cleaned out of every juice, EXCEPT FOR CRANBERRY JUICE. There was plenty of Cranberry juice. My husband and I had a big laugh over that.

Keep that in mind if you need liquid to drink - check for Cranberry juice - I guess no one likes it enough to buy it even though they know every store is going to be closed as soon as the storm goes through.


31 posted on 01/21/2014 3:44:25 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: iowamark

We keep three of the blue 55 gallon water containers filled and in our garage at all times plus a Big Berkey water filtration system. We filter every drop that comes out of our tap to get rid of the flouride and clorine and god knows what else thats in it.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 3:46:07 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We keep three of the blue 55 gallon water containers filled and in our garage at all times....

&&&
Doesn’t the water need replacing periodically?


33 posted on 01/21/2014 4:01:43 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Morgana

Wal-Mart has quite the emergency plan nationwide when there are events. I’ve been impressed how rapidly they get to a site.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 4:02:51 PM PST by caww
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To: Kartographer

bttt


35 posted on 01/21/2014 4:03:43 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Bigg Red

Yes from time to time you need to replace it. We are planning once or twice a year. Its not as important to us because we have the filtration system.


36 posted on 01/21/2014 4:15:15 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

I live in a rural area which may react differently than urban areas. Getting to and returning from a store may take the better part of a day so most probably have more food at home than those in urban areas. We didn’t see any chaos during the power outage after the derecho. Most folks worked together. No one went crazy trying to find gasoline although a few tired to fill 55 gallon barrels to scalp it. The only out right thievery involved the stealing of some portable enumerators set up by the phone company.

What happens in a real SHTF incident depends on a lot of factors.


37 posted on 01/21/2014 4:24:02 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Kartographer

My sister-i-law told me what happened in Los Angeles back in 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

It looked like we were on the verge of war! PANIC ensued! People were storming the grocery shelves, grabbing food off the shelves as fast as they could, as much as they could get in a cart and car!

People were fleeing the city as fast as they could! Wrecks were at many intersections! Roads became blocked due to wrecks! Choked streets with people trying to flee any way they could!

Meanwhile we in the middle of the USA were glued to the TV trying to figure what we needed to do. The freezers were full, we had lots of canned food, but the pucker factor was still there.
Then it all came to an end, we thought.

That December 31, about 10 PM, there was a break in the news for a FLASH! NORAD had spotted incoming over the DEW Line in Canada! The pucker factor returned!

Then they showed a silly photo of Santa Clause with fake clouds floating by.

We were relieved, but POed at the same time because it was too close to the October crisis and we were still on edge.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 4:48:15 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

OK, thanks for the info.


39 posted on 01/21/2014 4:58:11 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Morgana

“On top of this many churches, fire departments, other groups were giving away free water in every city.”

I’d heard that usually the first group to show up at any U.S. disaster scene is the organization of Southern Baptist men. Apparently they’re always stocked up and staged, and ready to go at a moment’s notice Funny that MSM never mentions that; it’s always FEMA or Red Cross.


40 posted on 01/21/2014 5:19:29 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: caww
Wal-Mart has quite the emergency plan nationwide when there are events. I’ve been impressed how rapidly they get to a site.

A few years back we had a severe ice storm in these parts that left hundreds of thousands of people without power for up to two weeks. All the mom & pop hardware stores were immediately sold out of generators, flashlights, batteries, camping gear and other items people don't think to get until after their power goes out. And they stayed sold out. They even hung giant signs in their windows announcing what they ran out of. Pretty pathetic.

But Wal-Mart was prepared. Over the next two weeks, they had truck after truck deliver all those essentials and never ran out of anything. And they didn't ratchet up their prices either. I remember reading an article at the time that they had these trucks on the road from all over the country before the power lines even started coming down.

People love to beat up on Wal-Mart but they have their act together with respect to logistics.

41 posted on 01/21/2014 5:31:45 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We keep three of the blue 55 gallon water containers filled

It's a lot cheaper doing it that way than buying it by the gallon bottle.

We have several WalMart 5 gallon frosting buckets ($2 each from the bakery) filled with tap water in the basement. It can be used for flushing, washing, or even drinking/cooking. We also keep a few dozen 1/2 gallon apple juice bottles we washed and filled with tap water for drinking. That suffices for our panic/emergency needs, and then we fall back on the bucket based water filter and a local pond.

Why wait until an emergency to pay big bucks for bottled emergency water when it is free right now with just a bit of foresight?

42 posted on 01/21/2014 5:57:52 PM PST by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: SamAdams76

I have no issues with WAl-Mart....only people in America have a problem. Overseas Wal-Mart is held in high regard and the elite go there as well and think nothing of it.

I think too many in this nation think too highly of themselves, and this at every level of society here.

I watched a video on Wal-Mart getting to emergency areas long before others. Their system is astounding in how they get things rolling and maintain it!


43 posted on 01/21/2014 6:22:43 PM PST by caww
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To: F15Eagle

***I assume you mean December 24....***

Woops! Yep. Dec 24, 1962


45 posted on 01/21/2014 7:46:31 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Gritty

The frosting buckets are a good idea. Mr. GG2 has made friends with the ladies in the bakery at Ingles and they sell him the bucket for about $1 I think. Way cheaper than buying them at Lowes.


46 posted on 01/21/2014 8:20:50 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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