Skip to comments.Dodgers legend Lasorda says A-Rod 'ruined the game'
Posted on 01/21/2014 4:24:50 PM PST by rickmichaels
According to one baseball legend, Alex Rodriguez has ruined the game.
Tommy Lasorda, who managed the Los Angeles Dodgers from 1976-96 and guided the club to two World Series titles, was curt when asked by ESPN about A-Rods one-year suspension.
He should have gotten more, Lasorda said Tuesday. What he's done? He's trying to ruin the game. You can't do that.
Lasorda is of the opinion drug users shouldnt be elected to the Hall of Fame and was upset by A-Rod after presuming the New York Yankees star was clean.
I was thinking, At least this guy is doing it legitimately, and then find out he wasn't, Lasorda said. That really turned my opinion of him.
Lasorda went on to blast cheating.
When someone breaks the rules, they dont belong in there, he said. Would you have your son get A-Rods autograph? Would you like to have that?
Im disappointed in this game of ours, which is so great, that somebody has to do things to cheat. Thats not right. How about those pitchers that they hit all those home runs off of them? Nobody thinks about those guys. So, consequently, weve got to have this game where everybody is on the same level. We need that. Even my wife said, Well, they had to hit the ball. I said, Sure, they hit the ball. But those balls that were caught on the warning track are now in the seats. And that's the thing that makes the difference ...
If I'm pitching and I know that guy up there is using that stuff, Id hit him right in the mouth. Id say, Go in and take another shot of it. Why should they be allowed to do that and others not allowed? Its not right. Weve got to get this baseball game to where the fans can understand everything is on the same level each guy has the same opportunities. Thats the way it should be. Thats the way it used to be. We never heard of steroids. Christ, half the guys couldn't even spell it.
To be fair, some of the pitchers were ‘roided-up, also.
Why couldn’t he be a drunk womanizer like the BABE!
I blame Curt Flood.
"Tommy Lasorda ... was curt when asked...."
Let him take some responsibility on himself first. Let me tell a Tom Lasorda story. He drafts the son of his HS buddy in the late charity rounds of friends and relatives. This kid did nothing in HS or college, had a reputation for being fat and lazy. This kid goes to rookie ball and is overmatched. He just doesn’t belong. This kid comes back to Dodger minor league camp the next March looking like the Hulk. The kid proceeds to bash his way all the way to show. Despite his horrible case of back acne he has a great career and just misses out on the Hall of Fame. If Tom Lasorda wants to make a stand, let him start closer to home.
Who was that?
Roger Clemens, Andy Petite for starters.
Not into that sort of sports trivia, but off the top of my head, Clemens and Colon.
A-Rod, Mcguire, Sosa, Roger Clemons and a bunch of others ruined the game. Baseball’s stats are meaningless now. And my baseball cards aren’t worth jack! Ha!
A whole slew have accepted suspensions for PED use. Several in this same Bosch crackdown.
With the steroids thing I think of the minor league players who never got their fair chance because of the abusers.
Cheaters? I guess Tommy has forgotten all about his companions who threw spitballs, emery balls, (real)cutters, or used corked bats? Or placed cameras or spotters hidden behind the fences in centerfield or elsewhere to steal the catchers’ signs and relay them to their batters? Or showing up drunk or in a drugged state on game day?
But I sure agree with his assessment of A-roid being a detriment to the integrity of MLB.
Selig was guilty of looking the other way, but the PED problem started before he was commissioner. Before 1994 I can think of two teams that were loaded with steriod users. Anyone remember the Oakland A’s of Canseco and McGuire, and the Phillies of Dykstra and Darren Daulton. In looking back, if there is, to borrow from another field, a patient zero for PED’s in the MLB, i would nominate Darrell Porter.
Couldn’t agree more. Piazza was never a “natural” talent.
The players’ GREEDY AGENTS ruined baseball.
If you ever saw him try to play another position, Mets tried, you could see that he wasn’t even athletic.
“Let him take some responsibility on himself first. Let me tell a Tom Lasorda story. He drafts the son of his HS buddy in the late charity rounds of friends and relatives. This kid did nothing in HS or college, had a reputation for being fat and lazy. This kid goes to rookie ball and is overmatched. He just doesnt belong. This kid comes back to Dodger minor league camp the next March looking like the Hulk. The kid proceeds to bash his way all the way to show. Despite his horrible case of back acne he has a great career and just misses out on the Hall of Fame. If Tom Lasorda wants to make a stand, let him start closer to home.”
Yup!! I was just about to ask why Lasorda doesn’t ask his god-son Mike Piazza about his steroid use. I have no love of Arod,quite the contrary, but he is not the only user out there. Right, Big Papi?
I saw him at a Marlins game last year. We had 3rd row seats and he was in the 2nd row with a rather unusual crowd (all male).
Big Papi, lets see, singles hitter with the Twins. Goes to Red Sox and out of nowhere hits 50+ HRs a year. MLB institutes their testing policy, Big Papi can’t even get the bat around on a fastball. We find out from Bosch, he isn’t the only one, that the test can be beat, Big Papi is back.
That’s a good point. I would suggest that baseball has always tolerated those soft kinds of cheating. Usually veterans like Don Sutton and Gaylord Perry sould get away with it more. It’s sort of like intentional offensive holding in the NFL. It’s only cheating if you’re caught.
Hard to understand when A-Rod and all the top ball players are receiving salaries that would fund third world countries and result in ticket, refreshments and food costs that make it virtually impossible for the average and lower middle class family to attend a ball game...
We never heard of steroids.
And you never had multi-million dollar salaries to compete for either......
If I were an average pro baseball player who had the opportunity of increasing my salary almost 10 fold via the use of PED's and thought I could get away with it, I'd certainly give it lots of consideration.
Even if I got caught I would have made in a mere year or two ten times what I made in my lifetime.........
I blame Jose ...
Ortiz’s head is now larger than his entire body was when he used the name David Arias..
Mike Piazza is not Lasorda’s godson, it is his brother.
Also, there is not much of a relationship between Piazza and Lasorda anymore since he was traded from the Dodgers. Notice that neither speaks about each other anymore.
“Mike Piazza is not Lasordas godson, it is his brother.”
Oops. My bad, I thought I had heard/read that along the way.
I thought I was the only one who blamed Curt Flood.
Big $$$ had a lot to do with it as well.
That’s exactly right. The players have no one to blame but themselves. They sacrificed the guy who never got called up or was only in MLB for a cup of coffee because someone else was on PEDS or was 35+ and extending their career by using PEDS. In exchange PEDS abusers received huge contracts that drove ALL the MLB player contracts up, the users and non-users.
Seems to be a shortage of guys hitting 100 on the radar gun lately. For a while there almost every team had one.
But mean pitching velocity is WAAAY up since 2002. I think a big part of it is that a certain % of tall athletic white kids are opting for baseball instead of trying to compete with tall black kids in basketball. There’s not too many relief staffs that have a bunch of soft tossers. Also I have heard teams are more likely to give hard throwing position prospects a chance.
Not that PED use wasn’t rampant or could be rampant with pitchers now, HGH sounds perfect for a starter trying to go 200+ innings year after year.
Who’s lasorta and a-rod and what’s baseball. /s
How could a 44 year old be the brother of an 86 year old?
I know it's "possible" but not likely.
that's an OLD mama.
I must research.
Then of course, are Doc Gooden, Daryl Strawberry - quite a few professional ball players using before A-rod.
Mike Piazza is not Lasordas godson, it is his brother.
How could a 44 year old be the brother of an 86 year old?”
I think that chrisinoc means that Lasorda is godfather to Mike Piazza’s brother. Am I correct chris?
Tall white kids were not competing in basketball with tall black kids 30 years ago. PED’s the mostly likely explanation. However, I do know that the radar gun in stadiums is jacked up by some teams, in order to get oow’s and awe’s from the fans. A friend of mine in the Mets organization told me this.
True story in the same vain. Buddy of mine played for Clint Hurdle in AAA. One time after a game Clint downs a few cold ones and tells his players that they should try everything at least once. Then he goes on to relate that while rooming with George Brett, while both drunk, they both performed a certain sex act on each other. My buddy till this day does not know if Hurdle was just trying to shock to make his point or he was actually telling the truth.
I am not a fan of Curt Flood either.
Maybe not, but there are less black kids who opt to play baseball now than in the 70’s. Are there more or less white players on college basketball teams now or 20 years ago?
As far as PEDS and the pitching dominance of the last few years, it could be more pitchers on PEDS or the lack of so many hitters using PEDS. But I think the biggest part is the relief pitching is better and almost nobody chokes up after two strikes now, so strikeouts are way up.
I still pay attention to the games, but I do not think I have watched a whole game, start to finish, in decades, including the playoffs and World Series.
Bravo Tommy, Bravo!
They should just seal the hall of fame and leave out anyone from the steroid era forever.
Wasn't it Marvin Miller who REALLY pushed baseball over the edge?
Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of players not being tied down to "peanut" salaries, but Miller was a big part of the race to the top as far as free agency and ridiculous pay for even mediocre performance.
I think that chrisinoc means that Lasorda is godfather to Mike Piazzas brother. Am I correct chris?
You are correct.
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