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Christian bakery guilty of violating civil rights of lesbian couple
foxnews.com ^ | 1/21/14 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 01/22/2014 6:41:31 AM PST by armydawg505

The owners of a Christian bakery who refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple are facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines after they were found guilty of violating the couple’s civil rights.

The Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries said they found “substantial evidence” that Sweet Cakes by Melissa discriminated against the lesbian couple and violated the Oregon Equality Act of 2007, a law that protects the rights of the LGBT community.

Last year, the bakery’s owners refused to make a wedding cake for Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman, of Portland, citing their Christian beliefs. The couple then filed a complaint with the state.

Aaron Klein told me there will be no reconciliation and there will be no rehabilitation. “The investigation concludes that the bakery is not a religious institution under the law and that the business’ policy of refusing to make same-sex wedding cakes represents unlawful discrimination based on sexual orientation,” said Charlie Burr, a spokesman for the Bureau of Labor and Industries.

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KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; bakery; celebratesin; christians; downourthroats; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; freeexercise; freespeech; homosexualagenda; inourfaces; judicialactivism; lawsuit; liberalfascism; lunacy; samesexmarriage; sweetcakes
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"The backlash against Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of the bakery, was severe. Gay rights groups launched protests and pickets outside the family’s store. They threatened wedding vendors who did business with the bakery. And, Klein told me, the family’s children were the targets of death threats. The family eventually had to close their retail shop and now operate the bakery out of their home." This just highlights the evil, no holes barred, viscous approach radical homosexuals take to anyone who dares to defy their crusade. They cannot and will not tolerate any dissension at all because they know they are doomed if they do. Liberal claptrap about "tolerance, compassion, open mindedness, diversity" and such are only reserved for their fellow travelers.
1 posted on 01/22/2014 6:41:31 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Gee...stupid me....here I thought that only ‘courts’ could render ‘guilty’ verdicts. Nothing but a bunch of frigging lifestyle perverts and Christian-hating Nazis.


2 posted on 01/22/2014 6:43:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: armydawg505

“The investigation concludes that the bakery is not a religious institution under the law and that the business’ policy of refusing to make same-sex wedding cakes represents unlawful discrimination based on sexual orientation,”

This is interesting. The implication is that the fourth amendment only protects religion if you are a “religious organization.” Of course, that is absurd on the face of it. It’s why Hobby Lobby is winning their case (so far).


3 posted on 01/22/2014 6:46:41 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

4th amendment = 1st amendment.

Sorry about that.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 6:47:19 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: armydawg505

I think I am in the middle of a bad dream. But then I realize I am awake and am living a bad dream.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 6:49:05 AM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: cuban leaf

It should be taken to SCOTUS.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 6:50:01 AM PST by expat2
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To: armydawg505

Why didn’t the bakery just do this:
Sure! You want a cake? Ok. Since it is not a common purchase, that’ll cost ya $1000.00, up front.”

How quick do you think they would have walked out?
The bakery would still be in business, and the nation would be the less to know.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 6:51:54 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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8 posted on 01/22/2014 6:52:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: armydawg505

South Park’s tolerance camp episode was more correct than anyone could have ever thought.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 6:52:27 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: certrtwngnut

“I think I am in the middle of a bad dream. But then I realize I am awake and am living a bad dream.”

Yep,we are toast.

.


10 posted on 01/22/2014 6:56:57 AM PST by Mears
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To: Terry L Smith

I guess these lesbos are not afraid of something nasty ending up in their damned cake. It does occasionally happen in the food industry when preparers don’t like the customers...


11 posted on 01/22/2014 6:57:12 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If I had been faced with this issue Id have made them the ugliest cake imaginable and then sued them when they refused to pay for it...


12 posted on 01/22/2014 6:57:35 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: armydawg505

I never new cake was a right.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 6:58:52 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: armydawg505

Someone needs to go to a liberal bakery here in Oregon and insist on a 2nd amendment birthday cake...


14 posted on 01/22/2014 6:58:57 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: cuban leaf

Yes. The implication is that individuals have no religious rights. Only the large religious institutions.

This is what bugs me about the media coverage of the abortion mandate. The keep talking about how catholic hospitals and such are affected. What about the millions of small businesses that are affected? They have no money to sue thus have no say?


15 posted on 01/22/2014 7:01:53 AM PST by what's up
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To: goodnesswins

“Someone needs to go to a liberal bakery here in Oregon and insist on a 2nd amendment birthday cake...”

That is such a cool idea.

A large gray frosting gun surrounded by the 2nd amendment words. Little bullseyes all around the sides.

.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 7:02:58 AM PST by Mears
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To: miss marmelstein

Ah, yes—The old “Find the toenail” approach.


17 posted on 01/22/2014 7:03:45 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Government doesn’t have the Constitutional right to force a private business to serve anyone.


18 posted on 01/22/2014 7:03:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: armydawg505; Gaffer; cuban leaf; what's up
The bakery has the supreme law of Oregon on its side.

Oregon Constitution, Bill of Rights:

Section 2. Freedom of worship. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.

Section 3. Freedom of religious opinion. No law shall in any case whatever control the free exercise, and enjoyment of religeous [sic] opinions, or interfere with the rights of conscience.–

http://bluebook.state.or.us/state/constitution/constitution01.htm

19 posted on 01/22/2014 7:09:19 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: armydawg505

TAKE IT TO THE SCOTUS AND HAVE THIS LAW REPEALED!


20 posted on 01/22/2014 7:11:27 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Terry L Smith

I went to their website last night http://www.sweetcakesweb.com/ and saw they are going to have cookies soon and plan to order some and anything else that might be mail order. Also provided some words of encouragement. Nice looking couple who answer to a much higher power than our court system. . .the Lord Jesus Christ. God will not be mocked.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 7:12:26 AM PST by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: Arm_Bears

I seriously had a deranged waiter (who worked for my husband and was always crying ‘racism!’) give me a plate of food with Scotch Bonnets hidden within. Not only does it happen, it happened to me!


22 posted on 01/22/2014 7:12:30 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: armydawg505
They should have called this place for advice. Silly little things called "tolerance and diversity" can easily be handled with a proper marketing approach. Unfortunately queer marriage is on hold in Utah.

A Special Place to get Married...

23 posted on 01/22/2014 7:13:22 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Gaffer

Yeah, that was my first take on the title -

“guilty” is a legal term and has specific meaning, requiring conviction in a court of law.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 7:14:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505

It’s not about equality. It’s about punishing anyone who does not openly celebrate their perverted lifestyle.


25 posted on 01/22/2014 7:15:04 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

First they wanted “tolerance”, and we tolerated them.
Then they demanded “equality”, and we treated them equally under the law.

Now they’re demanding SUPREMACY.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 7:16:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505
Aaron Klein told me there will be no reconciliation and there will be no rehabilitation. “The investigation concludes that the bakery is not a religious institution under the law and that the business’ policy of refusing to make same-sex wedding cakes represents unlawful discrimination based on sexual orientation,” said Charlie Burr, a spokesman for the Bureau of Labor and Industries.

Freedom of religion exists for individuals, not institutions. The Soviets did the same thing, redefining everything as a group right, and nothing as an individual right.

27 posted on 01/22/2014 7:16:50 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: armydawg505

Christian bakery guilty of violating civil rights of lesbian couple

Yeah, well...the US Government is guilty of violating the 1st amendment and the religious rights of Christian bakery.

28 posted on 01/22/2014 7:16:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: armydawg505
Last August, Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian told The Oregonian, their desire is to rehabilitate businesses like the one owned by the Christian couple.

Send them to the reeducation camps!

29 posted on 01/22/2014 7:17:17 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: armydawg505

The LGBT community is liable for threatening the safety and wellbeing of this family and charges should be brought against organizations representing LGBT’ers, for it is against the law to make bodily threats. All that need be shown is the quite visible and well documented hostility of the LGBT community against the community of faith, following their moral conviction.

Also, this board’s decision to punish this family is not a court decision and therefore this family has a right to take this board and their decision to a higher court and reverse the charge of civil rights under the Constitution of the United States. As courts are always overturning state propositions dully passed by the citizens of the state, this board and their decision too, should have to stand before a court and found unconstitutional.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 7:17:29 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Jacquerie
Section 3. Freedom of religious opinion. No law shall in any case whatever control the free exercise, and enjoyment of religeous [sic] opinions, or interfere with the rights of conscience.–

Seems like a slam dunk state court appeal.

31 posted on 01/22/2014 7:17:35 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The courts have used the 14th Amendment to shoehorn in all sorts of “rights”. We are facing decades of Supreme Court decisions regarding the use of the 14th. So it is constitutional in that regard.
32 posted on 01/22/2014 7:18:34 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: armydawg505

Our liberties are diminishing at warp speeds these days. Thanks, homos.


33 posted on 01/22/2014 7:18:37 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Mears
“Someone needs to go to a liberal bakery here in Oregon and insist on a 2nd amendment birthday cake...”

Hmmm...good idea. How does one identify a Liberal bakery? Liberals are not proud of their history and ancestry. They rarely advertise their ideology.

34 posted on 01/22/2014 7:19:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

How about the 13th amendment?

Seems to me that the government is requiring these bakers to provide their talent and labor against their will without criminal conviction in a court of law.


35 posted on 01/22/2014 7:19:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: armydawg505
Depends on how you define “guilty” and “civil rights”.

Forcing someone to celebrate someone's "marriage" in a way that is personally offensive to your religious beliefs is a violation of civil rights too. In at least one of the states where such a case came up, even the state itself did not recognize same sex marriages (yet the baker was charged with discrimination).

Can I force a muslim bakery to use pig lard in the product if I request it?

Can I compel a grocery store to make a birthday cake for Hitler (a dead conquering warlord on par with mad man Mohammed)?

Can you bake someone a cake and give them the frosting to write the text? A publisher cannot be forced to publish a book that offends them.

36 posted on 01/22/2014 7:21:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: prof.h.mandingo

The black robed tyrants have found all sorts of things in the Constitution that aren’t there. That doesn’t make them Constitutional.


37 posted on 01/22/2014 7:21:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: miss marmelstein

Which is why I prefer to eat at home.


38 posted on 01/22/2014 7:21:51 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Me too!


39 posted on 01/22/2014 7:23:17 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: armydawg505
Another similar vein of lawsuits is against photographers. Yet there are photographers (and magazine articles that profile them) who specialize in same sex marriages. The reason? The families themselves are not always supportive or present so other arrangements of relevant people must be coordinated to present a "package" of photos rather than just random snapshots plus the ceremony.

Also, as an alternative lifestyle, they don't necessarily want something "conventional" or (if you are lesbian) representative of the "patriarchal" view of the world.

So homosexuals can specialize in same sex weddings but no one is permitted to cite moral arguments for specializing in traditional marriages?

The lavender mafia are bullies.

40 posted on 01/22/2014 7:26:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Gays (lesbians, in particular) are all over the bakery industry - just look at the Food Network or an episode of The Barefoot Contessa or Chopped. A conservative could go into one of these bakeries (try NYC!) and request some anti-gay cake message on their red velvet. But conservatives are not good at organizing and are usually at work, so it never gets done.


41 posted on 01/22/2014 7:27:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I am in MA. I would do it if I could find a confirmed Liberal bakery. But I’m not prepared to spend a lot of dough going from business to business to weed one out.


42 posted on 01/22/2014 7:40:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: miss marmelstein

And yes....pun intended.


43 posted on 01/22/2014 7:41:14 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: Maudeen
I went to their website last night http://www.sweetcakesweb.com/ and saw they are going to have cookies soon and plan to order some and anything else that might be mail order. Also provided some words of encouragement.

I went to their website a couple of times over the past year, and emailed them and asked if they took orders that they could mail out. I never received a response and assumed that they did not (and were too busy to respond). I will try again.

44 posted on 01/22/2014 7:43:10 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Mears

I should have done it...today is my husband’s birthday. ..but I don’t know political leanings of bakeries...heck don’t know any bakeries here


45 posted on 01/22/2014 7:47:36 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: armydawg505

It’s not a surprise that you now “have a right” to buy a product from a private vendor, even when they don’t want to provide it... It’s not that different from forcing private physicians to perform involuntary services under MaobamaCare.

It’s time to Refresh the Tree!!


46 posted on 01/22/2014 7:48:51 AM PST by doc390
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To: DJ MacWoW
The black robed tyrants have found all sorts of things in the Constitution that aren’t there.

The Nine. Yes.

They ARE the Nazgul. Led by The Witch King....John Roberts.


47 posted on 01/22/2014 7:48:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: DJ MacWoW
nowhere in my copy of the Constitution is there a right to be served....

I remember seeing these signs on restaurant doors years ago .....



what happened??
48 posted on 01/22/2014 7:50:18 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Just google a few in your state. Libs always announce they’re libs - they’re so morally superior to us that they don’t care who knows their awful political views. I’m sure along with the cupcake descriptions are screeds against conservatives!

On the other hand, why waste your time, lol!?


49 posted on 01/22/2014 7:50:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: armydawg505
This business was targeted by the Gay Mafia. If they could shut down every Christian business they would be elated. Of course their conscience still bares witness against their sinful lifestyle. Until they repent they won't be able to shut out the deep conviction that their sexually depraved lifestyle is an abomination. (2Timothy 3)
50 posted on 01/22/2014 7:53:07 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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