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Texas Gov. Rick Perry defends states' right to legalize marijuana
http://www.click2houston.com/news/texas-gov-rick-perry-defends-states-right-to-legalize-marijuana/-/ ^ | Jan 23 2014 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/24/2014 12:29:15 AM PST by eastforker

AUSTIN, Texas - Gov. Rick Perry defended Colorado and Washington's legalization of marijuana on Thursday, saying it was an issue of state rights, while touting initiatives in Texas as national models for keeping minor drug offenders out of jail.

Perry's comments during the World Economic Forum in Switzerland echoed his past comments on drug policy, but they caused a bit of a stir because of how publicly the Republican endorsed lesser punishments for non-violent drug offenders.

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Rick is right, it is a states rights issue!
1 posted on 01/24/2014 12:29:15 AM PST by eastforker
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To: eastforker

About time


2 posted on 01/24/2014 12:39:27 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

Bttt


3 posted on 01/24/2014 12:40:29 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: eastforker

ZZ Top - Goin Down To Mexico

4 posted on 01/24/2014 12:48:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: eastforker
Amazing. The GOP governor of Texas told drug warriors to get lost.

What next, an all-pot Super Bowl?

5 posted on 01/24/2014 12:49:52 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv9LBUG4KsE


6 posted on 01/24/2014 1:05:28 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: eastforker

it is a states rights issue!

Which puts Liberals in a quandary.

They NEVER support ANY issue as an issue of State’s Rights. They don’t believe in the principal. Never have. Never will.

Except if it means more decadence. More moral decay...


7 posted on 01/24/2014 1:25:56 AM PST by Paisan
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To: F15Eagle

lol!


8 posted on 01/24/2014 1:33:57 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

;)


9 posted on 01/24/2014 1:52:30 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: eastforker

It is not a simple state’s right issue as it ultimately affects the health, welfare, and safety of the entire country as it leads to national sloth, decay, and WEAKNESS. Anyone who doubts this should investigate the Chinese Opium wars which lead to the Chinese “century of humiliation”.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 2:46:13 AM PST by RC one
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To: Paisan

Yes,soon to be followed by legal “states’ rights” prostitution - but don”t worry it won”t lead to anything negative. I wonder why there were ever any sodomy laws to begin with or other laws against immoral things? I wonder what ever happened to sin? I guess we just voted all of those things away.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 3:10:40 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Paisan
it is a states rights issue! Which puts Liberals in a quandary.

And apparently a lot of conservatives as well!

12 posted on 01/24/2014 3:14:23 AM PST by southern rock
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To: eastforker

BINGO!!!


13 posted on 01/24/2014 3:37:57 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lake Living

Marijuana is immoral?


14 posted on 01/24/2014 3:47:31 AM PST by sakic
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To: eastforker

Uttering the words “states rigts” to liberals is like showing the cross to Dracula. Was this a ploy by Perry to defuse the issue? Libs hate the idea that states have rights. To libs, big centralized, federal government should control everything and everybody.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 4:27:59 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Liberty Valance

As a Texan I’ve had plenty of problems with Perry over the years but not here. Cigs, alcohol, Mary Jane? State issue. We’ll decide how to handle it just fine ourselves. New Mexico or Oklahoma or South Dakota or Maine may do as they like and it’ll be just fine as well.

We are, as designed, a loose federation of independent states who hang together for international reasons. When Washington or Colorado elect to make pot legal I am totally okay with that since the will of the voter is taking its course. They can do as they will. I like that.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 4:35:57 AM PST by FAA
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To: driftless2
Uttering the words “states rigts” to liberals is like showing the cross to Dracula.

Keep reading :)

17 posted on 01/24/2014 4:57:05 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: eastforker

Rick is correct. I don’t always defend Rick Perry but he is correct.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 5:06:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: sakic

Marijuana is no more “immoral” than wine, beer, or Robitussin.

The moral aspect comes in when you purposefully alter your state of mind with it.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 5:10:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Paisan

Bingo!


20 posted on 01/24/2014 5:14:40 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Ken H

I don;t think he said that states should legalize maryjane, just that they can.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 5:15:58 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Daveinyork
I don;t think he said that states should legalize maryjane, just that they can.

I know. He spoke drug war heresy merely by saying the Tenth Amendment should prevail.

22 posted on 01/24/2014 5:27:08 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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Texas, Louisiana Governors Say They’re Open To Marijuana Reform

By Nicole Flatow on January 23, 2014 at 5:10 pm

“Texas, Louisiana Governors Say They’re Open To Marijuana Reform”

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On Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) declared “we will end the failed drug war.”
On Wednesday, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said he would be open to legalizing medical
marijuana if it were tightly controlled. And on Thursday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R)
hinted at support for decriminalizing marijuana in Texas.
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But Perry’s own words send a contradictory message about decriminalization. He said:

What I can do as the governor of the second largest state in the nation is to implement
policies that start us toward a decriminalization and keeps people from going to
prison and destroying their lives, and that’s what we’ve done over the last decade.
So I think there’s some innovation that goes on in the states that can translate
not just to Oklahoma or California or New York, but to Switzerland, to France, to
other countries that have this drug issue facing them, that there are some alternatives
without going that big full step and decriminalizing and sending a message to people
that it’s OK.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 5:43:14 AM PST by deport
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To: MrB

Anyone who has a drink is being immoral?


24 posted on 01/24/2014 6:18:05 AM PST by sakic
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To: sakic

Where did I say that?

Where did St Paul say that?

Nope - “do not BE DRUNK with too much wine” is the principle.

I have a beer or some wine here and there, myself. Water to wine was Jesus’ first miracle, after all.


25 posted on 01/24/2014 6:20:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: eastforker

I agree its up to the state, but like Alcohol should it be a county by county issue as well? IE Dry counties.... Pothead free counties?

I don’t care if colorado and washington have decided to be pot destinations they always were anyway, let them deal with the social aspects that these decisions will bring.. but I suspect thats not what will happen, when the costs show up they’ll ask the fed to foot the bill.


26 posted on 01/24/2014 8:08:58 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Daveinyork

You are correct.

He was saying ‘decriminalize’ which is different than legalizing.

He was referring to making it an offense that did not usually result in criminal charges and a criminal record.

He did not argue for legalization.


27 posted on 01/24/2014 9:32:13 AM PST by Hulka
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To: MrB
Marijuana is no more “immoral” than wine, beer, or Robitussin.

The moral aspect comes in when you purposefully alter your state of mind with it.

Most people I know drink wine or beer to purposefully alter their states of mind.

28 posted on 01/24/2014 9:33:03 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

We all make our own choices...

Now, was that statement supposed to somehow refute mine?


29 posted on 01/24/2014 9:37:45 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RC one
It is not a simple state’s right issue as it ultimately affects the health, welfare, and safety of the entire country as it leads to national sloth, decay, and WEAKNESS. Anyone who doubts this should investigate the Chinese Opium wars which lead to the Chinese “century of humiliation”.

I thought this thread was about marijuana . . .

30 posted on 01/24/2014 9:38:30 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Hulka

“He did not argue for legalization.”

No he didn’t, but he argued that states have the right to do so.

Prohibitionists realized that the federal government had no Constitution authority to ban intoxicants. They got off their asses and amended the Constitution. In this respect, drug warriors are a lazy as liberals.


31 posted on 01/24/2014 9:40:52 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Daveinyork

“In this respect, drug warriors are a lazy as liberals.”

I suppose you mean “political drug warriors,” correct, as my son, a Border Patrol Agent is hardly lazy and has been injured on the line fighting cartel drug smugglers.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 10:08:04 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Yeah. The ones who want the feds to fight the drug war when there is no Constitutional authority for them to do so, and they are too @#$%^ing lazy to amend the Constitution. They’d rather violate the Constitution.


33 posted on 01/24/2014 10:35:13 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: eastforker

Perry wants to mandate it for all little girls probably too

Keep it illegal


34 posted on 01/24/2014 10:36:51 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Perry also said abortion is a states’ rights issue. But that’s the common conservative opinion, I’m sure. /s


35 posted on 01/24/2014 11:09:46 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: sakic; Lake Living

Abortion is. And Perry deems that a states’ rights issue also.


36 posted on 01/24/2014 11:14:19 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: RC one

When I was in college 6 or 7 thousand years ago (or so it seems), I had a few occasions to sample the burning of opium. Likewise, I had more than a few occasions to smoke marijuana.

If the effect of MJ was anything like that of opium, I’d be agreeing with your post.

As it stands, not at all. Any comparison of those on pot and those on opium will make the pot smokers appear to be Type A high achievers in contrast.


37 posted on 01/24/2014 1:13:11 PM PST by dmz
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To: Alice in Wonderland; MrB

Most people I know drink wine or beer to purposefully alter their states of mind.

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Whether that is their intent or not, that is what happens.


38 posted on 01/24/2014 1:16:48 PM PST by dmz
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To: dmz
First of all, weed today has a MUCH MUCH MUCH higher THC content than the weed you were smoking in college "6 or 7 thousand years ago". There is so much difference in potency and effect that you can not compare today's marijuana with yesterday's but you can start to compare today's marijuana with opiates. And the fact is, both drugs lead to drug addiction. While opiates are a far more concerning problem and I truly wish our government would stop promoting that problem as well (and it is), it doesn't change the fact that both drugs lead to addiction and addiction related societal problems. And, furthermore, it's pretty rare to find a heroin user who didn't start with marijuana.
39 posted on 01/24/2014 2:13:17 PM PST by RC one
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To: Alice in Wonderland
pretty sure it's about promoting drug addiction. If drug addiction only destroyed liberals, I'd be all for it. That's not the case though. see post 39 if you care to Alice.
40 posted on 01/24/2014 2:17:04 PM PST by RC one
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To: sakic

“Marijuana is immoral?”

Of course it is. That’s what the federal GOVERNMENT film “Reefer Madness” taught us long ago.

You know, a big government credibility builder, that film was.

Stands in history, alongside American Prohibition.

The alternative to turning over control of one’s self to the government, would be personal freedom.

That way I can advocate for freedom for us both, and at the same time decide to NOT use a substance, while you choose to.

Or vice versa.


41 posted on 01/24/2014 2:39:07 PM PST by truth_seeker (Nissan)
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To: truth_seeker

Um, the government did not produce the movie Reefer Madness. You can read its history online.

A church group made the movie, and then it was picked up by a producer who added the more salacious stuff.

But nice rant!


42 posted on 01/24/2014 5:21:43 PM PST by dmz
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To: RC one

I love it when a liberal finally let’s the mask slip here on FR. Thanks for revealing yourself.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 5:29:33 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

LMAO. The promotion of drug addiction has always been the liberal position. Opposition to the pro-drug addiction position has ALWAYS been the conservative position except for a handful of libertarians that really just liberals that can’t admit it. Wrapping your pro- addiction position up in a states rights wrapper doesn’t change that. Dumb .


44 posted on 01/24/2014 7:12:06 PM PST by RC one
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To: Lurker

and btw, I’m not saying that you or anyone else that happens to be pro-legalization/addiction isn’t a conservative. You/they may be staunchly conservative on every other meaningful issue. I’m just saying that on this one particular issue, you/they are leaning left and I honestly don’t have a huge problem with you/them for it. That doesn’t mean that I’m going to gleefully agree with you/them about it though.


45 posted on 01/24/2014 8:04:17 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

The promotion of un-Constitutional Federal power has been a Liberal position for even longer. Now go Google up a copy of the Constitution and show mere where EXACTLY Congress is granted the specific, enumerated power to tell me what I can or can not put into my own body.

Take your time. No SCOTUS decisions allowed, only the text of the Constitution.


46 posted on 01/24/2014 8:07:00 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker
The promotion of un-Constitutional Federal power has been a Liberal position for even longer....show mere where EXACTLY Congress is granted the specific, enumerated power to tell me what I can or can not put into my own body.

I'm not even going there.

47 posted on 01/24/2014 8:34:57 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

“I’m not even going there.”

I thank you for gracefully acknowledging your defeat.

L


48 posted on 01/24/2014 9:41:55 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

yes, because there are no laws anywhere in the US code that are specifically authorized to exist by the constitution. For example, there are no laws limiting how fast we can drive on our roads because the constitution doesn’t say anything about that.


49 posted on 01/24/2014 9:52:06 PM PST by RC one
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To: Ken H; wardaddy; Lazamataz

It’s not just the GOP Governor of Texas supporting legalization.

The uber conservative American Farm Federation just endorsed legalizing industrial hemp as a cash crop this week.


50 posted on 01/24/2014 10:07:23 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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