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Snowden Not Returning to The U.S.

Posted on 01/24/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by EAGLE7

Eric Snowden stated he is not returning to the U.S. considering the current "whistleblowing" laws.


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Eric Snowden stated he is not returning to the U.S. considering the current "whistleblowing" laws. I guess the new term for 'spy' is 'whistleblower'. Snowden has caused considerable damage to our ability to gather info and our relationship with our allies. I can hear his supporters chime in now like rabid animals, "Why would we spy on our allies!!" "Why does the NSA need to know what I tweeted or Freeped!!!" If all Snowden did was reveal the domestic spying program, I could understand those who support him. But he has gone well beyond that. He has revealed who we spy on and how. I say stay in Russia you useful idiot. I hope you live a long life under tyranny. Here in America, those of us who actually love our Republic will continue to work to shrink our government and expand our freedoms.
1 posted on 01/24/2014 6:18:44 AM PST by EAGLE7
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To: EAGLE7

Smart man to stay out of the reach of our Stasi.


2 posted on 01/24/2014 6:20:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EAGLE7

Is Eric Edward’s brother or something??


3 posted on 01/24/2014 6:23:30 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: EAGLE7

The NSA spies on “their” enemies not “our” enemies.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 6:24:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek

He would be insane to come back here. Even if the govt gave him amnesty he would get Breitbarted within a few mos.


5 posted on 01/24/2014 6:25:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’m not one who thinks of Snowden as a hero but he’s certainly the lesser evil.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 6:26:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I think the use of the word 'hero' and the articles that continue to keep that word in play is wrong on many fronts, but I DO admire what he did.

We'll probably never know the full extent of what our government has already done, planning to do and to what extent, but because of him, the American people have been alerted and some issues and situations are now common language to a lot of people.

NSA, IRS spying, etc.

7 posted on 01/24/2014 6:31:04 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: EAGLE7

Snowden or Obama...

Looks like you made your choice

I’d rather have dead Islamic Terrorists than being spied on


8 posted on 01/24/2014 6:33:06 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: EAGLE7
I'm not so sure Russia is such a bad place these days ... may even be more free.
9 posted on 01/24/2014 6:34:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: EAGLE7

Snowden did good. The American intelligence apparatus that for decades was focused on external threats has turned 180 degrees and focused on he American people. Its beyond doubt that even this very thread is swept up and stored.
Add in the militarization of law enforcement, and the use of military intelligence to aid criminal prosecutions (NSA=DOD), the use of government agencies to harass and prosecute political opponents and you have a budding police state.

Support the NSA and its un-American, unconstitutional, activities if you want. I hope he has a happy life, with a beautiful woman. Thank god he made it somewhere to safety from his pursuers.

And we shouldn’t call the NSA the STASI. The real STASI never dreamed of having so much intel, they were pikers compared to the NSA.

He shouldn’t return until after serious, deep order change in the government of the USA. Until he sees people that ran this structure being arrested and prosecuted, he should stay safe and have some happiness.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 6:35:31 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

How simple minded of you. I reject both of them. Both have caused and are causing untold damage. :Like I said, if Snowden simply revealed the domestic spying and information gathering program, I could understand and even support him. The traitor went sooo far beyond that.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 6:35:54 AM PST by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: DesertRhino

Do not misunderstand me. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE NSA DOMESTIC SPYING PROGRAM. It scares me that they are mining data on all Americans. That should worry us all. If ALL Snowden did was reveal THAT program, I would have supported him. But he also revealed other nations we spy on, both friend and foe, and HOW we spy on them, causing damage on FOREIGN data gathering which is essential. Moreover, the damage and distrust it has caused in the minds of Americans fits nicely into the subversion and demoralization process the KGB started decades ago. While it’s healthy and ESSENTIAL to have a certain amount of distrust for our gov’t., it is not healthy to say...as I have read conservatives post...that Russia is a better place, and calling our own agencies the “stasi”.


12 posted on 01/24/2014 6:45:18 AM PST by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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He was a traitor only to the NSA, not to the constitution. And as for foreign policy, i’m glad he revealed the we listen to Merkel’s phone, that we have reciprocal agreements where foreign nations spy on our citizens while we spy on theirs, etc.

As I see it about 90% of our foreign policy is now conducted in secret, in direct opposition to what most Americans think is right. The Secret regime allows this. This current war has lasted 3 times longer than WWII and shows no sign of stopping.
We have been fighting so long we are now switching sides and fighting WITH Al Qeida in Syria, Libya, and Egypt.

This is all enabled by our massive secrecy regime. I think its way past time for some disinfecting sunshine.


13 posted on 01/24/2014 6:46:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: EAGLE7

If you dislike my use of the term Stasi, you’ll really dislike my description of the “service” you provide on them.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 6:47:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m reminded of a documentary about the rise of the 3rd Reich told from the German perspective. In the documentary was a letter from a German citizen who complained that “The Gestapo tells us of all these threats we face but treat us as if these threats were in our own homes”.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 6:57:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EAGLE7
I have to disagree with you. My generation (60-somethings) has always had a real distrust of the government, as we saw the dreams of our childhoods be erased by government and globalist priorities. Younger folk used to think we were a little bit crazy about our "big brother" concerns.

Because of Snowden, and only because of Snowden, is there now a real concern about government over-reach. The discussion just would not have happened if he didn't (hopefully) get a critical mass of people to care about our loss of freedoms.

Another thing is....whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty" and "due process"? How would Snowden ever get a fair trial in the US, with all the pronouncements of Snowden's guilt?

So we all live in an alternate universe where the man who cares about his country and religious values presides over Russia, and the man who has a disdain for both presides over the US. As far as the secrets being divulged goes?....I'm not buying it.

16 posted on 01/24/2014 6:58:16 AM PST by grania
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Besides, what good is intel without the will to do anything about it?

I give you the Boston bombers posting jihadi videos, I give you Major Hassan who NSA watched communicating with Al Qeida leaders before Fort Hood. I give you open borders and cartels. I give you wholesale importation of Moslems and Africans from the moslem wars there.

And who do the fusion centers designate as terrorist? Why TEA of course. Tea, constitution lovers, Christians, Ron Paul voters, gun owners, etc. The US Army is teaching soldiers that Christians are an example of extremist thought.

I SEE all of this, and I know that our revolutionary socialist government is NOT expending intel efforts to protect us. We are the targets. Go Snowden.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 7:05:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cripplecreek

Very true ref the Gestapo. Its amazing that suddenly we are surrounded my dire threats everywhere, and that the main answer is the creation of the Nazi sounding Homeland Security agency. An agency that is the size of the USMC with TWICE the budget. They legally designate the “Homeland” a battlefield.

Meanwhile the exact entities who are the stated threats are allowed to flock into America wholesale, and are supplied with everything from AKs to Submarines and F-16s overseas.
But they watch normal Americans, Ron Paul, Christians and TEA.
I can add all that up very quickly.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 7:13:41 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Obadiah

“My fish’s name is Eric, Eric the fish. He’s an halibut..”


19 posted on 01/24/2014 7:21:36 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: EAGLE7

The only thing Snowden has done is cause considerable damage to the NSA’s agenda of spying on every American citizens every movement. So far their metadata collection has not thwarted even one terrorist plot. They are the TSA on steroids. They need to be significantly curtailed and soon.

Personally I’d like to shut the NSA down. What is the CIA supposed to be for?


20 posted on 01/24/2014 7:30:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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