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Court Will Decide if Husband Can Kill His Unborn Child by Removing Momís Life Support
Life News ^ | Cheryl Sullenger

Posted on 01/24/2014 12:52:47 PM PST by Morgana

A hearing will be held today at 3:15 p.m. to decide the fate of Marlise Munoz and her pre-born baby, now 22 weeks gestation. Her husband, Erick Munoz, will ask the court to order John Peter Smith Hospital to terminate life support for his wife and baby.

JPS Hospital is complying with a state law that requires hospitals to maintain life support for pregnant women in order to give their children a chance at survival.

munoz3Pro-life leaders, including Pastor Stephen Broden of Fair Park Bible Fellowship and Founder of National Black Pro-Life Coalition, plan to attend today’s hearing in support of Marlise and her child. Marlise has been on life-support since she collapsed at home in November when she was 14 weeks pregnant.

The Munoz family says they were told Marlise is “brain dead” although their baby continues to live and grow. However, the determination of “brain death” is a controversial one that is based on varying indicators, depending on who is making the diagnosis.

“The public has been given the erroneous impression that Marlise is a dead and decaying corpse. This assumption is completely false. Marlise’s heart continues to beat and she continues to nourish her pre-born baby. A rotting corpse cannot do that,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue. “As for the baby, we have information that diagnostic tests have not been done on the baby to support allegations that there are developmental anomalies, but even if the baby does have health issues, that baby still does not deserve to be killed.”

Even if the Munoz baby has suffered disabilities due to Marlise’s condition, numerous people have expressed an interest in adopting the Munoz baby even if he or she has special needs.

Abortion groups like NARAL have coldly sided with Marlise’s husband in calling on the hospital to kill Marlise and her baby.

munoz4“Some people want to decide who lives and who dies based on their personal criteria. If that was allowed, none of our lives would be safe. We simply cannot murder sick or inconvenient people just because we don’t want the hassle of caring for them. That is a dangerous road that will only end up unjustly depriving vast numbers of people of their right to life, just as we have seen with the issue of abortion,” said Newman.

The court hearing will be held today at the 96th District Court, 7th Floor, 401 W. Belknap in Ft. Worth at 3:15 p.m. It is open to the public. Pro-life supporters are encouraged to attend. A prayer vigil outside the court is also planned.

Also, a Prayer vigil in support of Marlise and her baby will be held outside JPS hospital on Sunday, January 26, at 3:00 pm.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: marlisemonoz; munoz; prolife; texas

1 posted on 01/24/2014 12:52:47 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Silly question...does the baby have a say?


2 posted on 01/24/2014 12:54:37 PM PST by albie (ve`)
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To: Morgana

You gotta be a cold hearted sumbitch to go to court to murder your baby.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 12:56:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: albie

Let’s wait until he can talk and ask him.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 12:57:10 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Morgana

Prayers up for Marlise and her unborn child.

I do not believe reports that the baby is damaged in any way. This is just an excuse for cold-blooded murder!


5 posted on 01/24/2014 12:59:01 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: Morgana

I don’t get it. I was just reading in People how much she wanted to be a mother and how much they were looking forward to this baby UNTIL she collapsed. Now they’re saying it’s inhumane to keep her alive as an “incubator”. There is something good that can come out of this and they’re just willing to kill it. It’s disgusting.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 1:00:41 PM PST by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: Morgana

I think the Duggar’s family had a premature baby at 22 weeks. Josie I think. She is doing fine from the last TLC show we saw.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 1:03:47 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Morgana

Can’t the baby be delivered by C-section? Babies a lot younger than 22 weeks have survived. So what’s the problem?


8 posted on 01/24/2014 1:03:53 PM PST by laweeks
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To: TightyRighty

That alive, growing child is not an it. Don’t help the bastards steal the terminology and dehumanize that alive unborn child.


9 posted on 01/24/2014 1:05:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: miserare

how is it that when a perpetrator kills a woman and her unbornd child hes is charged with Murdering...them both but when a mother “chooses” and abortion...or a father chooses to take his pregnant wife off life support thereby terminating the LIFE of the unborn child its not RECOGNIZED as Murder??

this seems so seldom discussed..and is never addressed by the choice bozoe


10 posted on 01/24/2014 1:05:48 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: TightyRighty

Insanity. . .if she was murdered the murderer would be charged with TWO murders. . .even if she was on the way to an abortion clinic.

Liberals and logic, can’t occupy the same universe.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 1:06:11 PM PST by Hulka
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To: MHGinTN

Sigh.


12 posted on 01/24/2014 1:07:58 PM PST by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: Morgana

Wow... the pro-death lobby gets a “twofer” on this one...


13 posted on 01/24/2014 1:08:24 PM PST by Kenton
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To: Morgana

Thought it was supposed to be the woman’s “choice”. I thought men weren’t supposed to have a say in abortion...must only be when they oppose it.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 1:11:36 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: laweeks

No baby has ever survived “a lot younger” than 22 weeks. Earliest survival is 23 weeks and change


15 posted on 01/24/2014 1:17:08 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Kenton

You are incorrect, there is no pro death agenda on mom — she is dead. I agree with the keeping her ventilated and circulating for baby to go to viability, but mom is dead by the law and the clinical findings.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 1:18:31 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Politicalkiddo
Thought it was supposed to be the woman’s “choice”.

In this case you don't want to go there. Apparently the woman left behind directives to not have life support. Fortunately state law has trumped that due to her pregnancy. So far.
17 posted on 01/24/2014 1:18:59 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

I thought her husband just claimed that. I’m still rather suspicious in the husband’s role in this...


18 posted on 01/24/2014 1:21:34 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: miserare
I do not believe reports that the baby is damaged in any way.

Of course, these were lawyer making these medical statements - lawyers who are hired by the kille.... uh, husband, who wants her to die. Really unbiased "experts" there.

19 posted on 01/24/2014 1:21:52 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TalonDJ

I do not believe she left behind a directive. I belive it is her husband who is claiming that she didn’t want to be kept alive on life support.

Never trust your family.


20 posted on 01/24/2014 1:22:54 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: miserare

So. I wonder if/when they found out the baby was deformed. Was it before she collapsed? Maybe she wanted to keep it regardless and he didn’t. How, precisely, did she collapse? Did the husband have anything to do with that?

Just some questions I have.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 1:24:00 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Politicalkiddo

You and me both. I’d like to know more about the circumstances of her ‘collapse’. And when she/they found out about any developmental abnormalities. And if her wishes to avoid life support would have included being pregnant at the time. And were these wishes in writing?

Questions.


22 posted on 01/24/2014 1:25:48 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Morgana

If she wanted to kill the baby, she would have had an abortion. She didn’t. She wanted the baby to live. Why assume now that she wants the baby dead?


23 posted on 01/24/2014 1:28:32 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Morgana

tell me again how she got that way ???


24 posted on 01/24/2014 1:35:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: laweeks

No not 22 weeks

that is miracle survival, viability is now at about 24-25 weeks and even that is slim

if the baby can make it another 6 weeks it has a good chance
that is why this family is stepping it up
got to murder her child in the 2d trimester
“she would have wanted it that way”
shur


25 posted on 01/24/2014 1:38:00 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: MrB

Daddy wants to move on, unencumbered by a baby, so he is trying desperately to prevent that little from exiting alive to the air world. If daddy has his way, the child will never get asked ... but I do like your way of posing that conundrum!


26 posted on 01/24/2014 1:40:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: gas_dr

“No baby has ever survived “a lot younger” than 22 weeks. Earliest survival is 23 weeks and change”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/8469561/Worlds-most-premature-baby-to-leave-hospital.html

21 weeks, 5 days.


27 posted on 01/24/2014 1:41:49 PM PST by Sporke
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To: TalonDJ

she didnt leave directives

it is all hearsay by her family that she never wanted to live this way

well, d’oh, who does?

But bet they never asked her if she was pregnant and the baby had a chance, would she want them to pull the plug?

I just don’t get this family
They do not deserve that child, for sure
There are adopters waiting for the baby regardless of his condition


28 posted on 01/24/2014 1:41:54 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Morgana

I hope they do a test to make sure the baby is in fact his before making any decisions.


29 posted on 01/24/2014 1:43:03 PM PST by katnip (Why Do Democrats Hate Babies?)
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To: MHGinTN

He already has a kid. Bet this kid isn’t his.


30 posted on 01/24/2014 1:45:02 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: jwalsh07; Dr. Sivana; fieldmarshaldj; RitaOK; Tax-chick

Erick Munoz should be shunned by any man who is a man regardless of whether he wins or loses this despicable lawsuit seeking judicial permission to slaughter his own unborn infant.


31 posted on 01/24/2014 1:45:10 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Personally, I don’t care if the alive child is barry soetoro’s bastard child, the child is an alive human being and ought to be protected. That is one cold sonofabitch working so hard to kill that unborn child.


32 posted on 01/24/2014 1:46:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t care whose kid he/she is, either. All I know is that this sniveling excuse for a human being is trying way too hard to get rid of his wife and her child.


33 posted on 01/24/2014 1:51:57 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: Morgana

There is something wrong with this guy.


34 posted on 01/24/2014 1:53:30 PM PST by marron
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To: Morgana
This is a tough one.

A. Dad has no rights. Ever. In anything.

B. But to not kill mom and baby, admits that baby is indeed baby and not clump of cells, tissue or whatever term is fashionable these days.

Either sets a bad precedent for the moonbats.

35 posted on 01/24/2014 1:54:31 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: All

The judge just ruled the family can take her off life support. I have to believe that the doctors testified that the baby has no chance of survival. I just have to believe this. I am so sorry that this baby has to die. It would not have been my decision. I would have not ruled this way. I pray God will not let this baby die in pain.


36 posted on 01/24/2014 2:28:50 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Politicalkiddo
The woman died a natural death. I don't think he was trying to “get rid” of her. God decided it was her time and she happened to be pregnant. In the old days it would have been the natural thing for the baby to die with the mother. It's nature and God's way. I think it's quite bizarre what they are doing. I'm not for abortion either, I just think this is a sad circumstance
37 posted on 01/24/2014 2:46:28 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: MHGinTN

The Munoz family already have a child. This was going to be their second child.


38 posted on 01/24/2014 2:52:07 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: dandiegirl

Yes, the woman is dead. As to the naturalness of the death, I will not say it was or wasn’t. But when God has given us the technology to preserve nascent life, shouldn’t it be society’s duty to do everything its power to protect this life? The child is by no means dead. Should we just do things medically according to what has been done in the past? C-sections have been done to dead women...should we just let these children die? The judge has no good reason to sanction this child’s death.


39 posted on 01/24/2014 2:52:25 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: Politicalkiddo

It’s a hard situation, but I think the family should be able to do what they want without government interference. Yes, we have all these life saving abilities now, but sometimes I just think it’s best to let nature take it’s course.


40 posted on 01/24/2014 2:57:32 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Morgana

you would think he would go to extended lenghths to at least save his baby

poor choice of ‘baby daddy’ on her part


41 posted on 01/24/2014 3:19:46 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Black Agnes

She collapsed due to a pulmonary embolism. It is unknown how long she went without oxygen prior to resuscitation attempts began.


42 posted on 01/24/2014 3:29:06 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: BlackElk

This is the saddest of the sad. Barbaric, really. What are a few more weeks, just a few more weeks? God spare us.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 5:50:45 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: BlackElk

AGREE!


44 posted on 01/24/2014 6:49:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (Embracing my inner evil robot.)
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To: gas_dr

So, according to today’s news, the pro-death camp gets another victory.

The baby will be allowed to die sometime tomorrow.


45 posted on 01/26/2014 3:43:41 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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