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Chrysler dealers upbeat about purchase by Fiat
Associated Press ^ | Jan 25, 2014 5:49 PM EST | Janet McConnaughey

Posted on 01/25/2014 8:45:01 PM PST by Olog-hai

Chrysler dealers from around the U.S. seem revved up by the purchase of the U.S. carmaker by Italy’s Fiat SpA. […]

“I think it’s well deserved,” said Pamela Burger of Carl Burger Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram World in the San Diego suburb of La Mesa, Calif. “They picked us up out of bankruptcy when we couldn’t even be bought, and have grown us over five years. … They helped us grow instead of stripping us of money and assets.”

And, she said, “The quality gets better and better.”

Fiat has been running Chrysler since 2009 and owned nearly 60 percent of Chrysler’s shares but lacked full control until Fiat-Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne won a hard-fought deal with the union-controlled trust fund that owned the remaining 41.5 percent of the stock. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: automakers; chrysler; fiat; fixitagaintony; italy; michigan; sergiomarchionne; uscarindustry

1 posted on 01/25/2014 8:45:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You know that you have quality control problems when Fiat standards are higher.


2 posted on 01/25/2014 8:50:56 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I’ve always been fascinated by how quickly the second-generation Dodge Intrepid appeared on the roads followed by how rapidly the cars disappeared. Funny stuff happened during the Daimler-Chrysler era . . .


3 posted on 01/25/2014 8:54:53 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I never have touched...and never *will* touch...a Chrysler *or* a Fiat product.


4 posted on 01/25/2014 8:58:19 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone read Carl’s Jr. Burger?


5 posted on 01/25/2014 9:12:53 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: PAR35

Always liked their wimen, real purdy they were.

Never did like their cars though. Their wiring color codes rarely matched the diagrams so we figured they just used whatever color they had hanging on the wall. Real PITA, even their high end stuff.


6 posted on 01/25/2014 9:20:25 PM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: Olog-hai

I think they have manufactured those for 5 or 6 years from 1998 to 2004. Technically similar to Chrysler Concorde and 300Ms.
The problem was a European designed 2.7 engine. They barely could survive k50 on US motor oil especially if it wasn’t changed regularly.
In Europe and Russia with better lubricants available and overall higher maintenance culture they were still common just a couple years ago.


7 posted on 01/25/2014 11:08:55 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Olog-hai

Too bad Yugo wasn’t around to save them


8 posted on 01/25/2014 11:09:43 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Blame Clinton who bombed their HQ and plants at the time.


9 posted on 01/25/2014 11:14:09 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: PAR35

Fiat = Fix It Again, Tony.


10 posted on 01/25/2014 11:15:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: cunning_fish

lol


11 posted on 01/25/2014 11:18:01 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cunning_fish

and gobbled up by FIAT also?


12 posted on 01/25/2014 11:19:40 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

13 posted on 01/25/2014 11:22:33 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GeronL

We need to investigate. LOL.


14 posted on 01/25/2014 11:32:29 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: PAR35

Fiat of today is nothing like the problem riddled product of the 60s and 70s. Drove a friends 500 and test drove an Abarth 500, good quality, fun little cars. The Abarth goes like stink.


15 posted on 01/25/2014 11:43:43 PM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

Yep, it is better than earlier but still far from Japanese quality.


16 posted on 01/25/2014 11:48:23 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: PAR35

>> You know that you have quality control problems when Fiat standards are higher.

Yup, and GM pissed on the standards of the former SAAB auto.


17 posted on 01/25/2014 11:58:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Well, Saab was a relic by the time GM took over. I don’t know if it was an improvement or not.


18 posted on 01/26/2014 12:00:25 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Olog-hai

Want to know how this is going to work out?

Just review the last few years of how Fiat is going to re-introduce the Alfa-Romeo to the American market.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 3:47:53 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

Their old reputation, well earned, was beautiful cars, fun to drive but mechanically pieces of junk, built by folks who didn’t care.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 5:55:27 AM PST by PAR35
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There used to be a Freeper that was a rabid Chrysler fanboy who went by the name of The Watcher. He actually argued with me (right after the bailout) that within two years Chrysler would be the “premier” automaker in the U.S. He also said, in response to my claim that Fiat could try and pull Chrysler from the brink, “In fact, it is not Fiat which is “pulling back chrysler from the brink” it is Chrysler who is coming to the rescue of the Italian brands”. This guy was truly a fanboy of the first order. I stated that I hoped Cummins would severe their ties to Chrysler and that Nissan would put the 5.9L engine in the Titan which is a better truck. This really set him off...he then said the following, “There is no “better truck”. And right now the future survival of Nissan is more in doubt than that of Chrysler”. Well Nissan’s still around and Chrysler is now owned by Fiat. Sometimes the future IS easy to predict if your head isn’t up you ass.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 6:20:39 AM PST by 762X51
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To: AnAmericanInEngland
The Abarth goes like stink.

This guy.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 6:51:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 762X51

Same about GM. With the exception of large trucks and sportcars, modern Chevrolets are built around Opel (worst of Germany) and Daewoo (worst of Korea, practically defunct) platforms. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia Chevy went as far as took over a Lada design to build and sell under it’s name.


23 posted on 01/26/2014 7:42:01 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Olog-hai

Quite. Just because they can (surprise surprise) make a profit selling cars for $70K each, the krauts thought they understood the car business; Chrysler had produced the first US-made/designed subcontract that made money. Chrysler became nothing but a nameplate under the German occupation, and is better off with Fiat.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 8:51:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: HonkyTonkMan
Anyone read Carl’s Jr. Burger?

"Carl's Jr....F You, I'm Driving."

25 posted on 01/26/2014 8:53:52 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jjotto

I’m surprised that we haven’t got hit with the Fiat Panda yet. Base engine is still a two-cylinder . . .


26 posted on 01/26/2014 12:25:07 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

The Yugo was based on a Fiat 127, incidentally.


27 posted on 01/26/2014 12:26:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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