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'Inconvenience' a silly reason to block background checks
allvoices.com ^ | 1/25/2014 | Michael Rappaport

Posted on 01/26/2014 10:16:56 AM PST by rktman

As I write this, some patriotic American is expressing his love of the Second Amendment at a mall in Columbia, Md.

We know two things will happen. A lot of people will talk about things that should be done, and nothing at all will happen because our political leaders are terrified of that tiny minority known as the National Rifle Association.

This isn't about taking anyone's guns away. It isn't about preventing anyone from buying and owning the most obscene weapons, weapons the founders would never have envisioned. It isn't even about those poor, sad men who believe they need state-of-the-art weaponry if the time ever comes to overthrow the government.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: didiots; guncontrol
Guess this asshat didn't get to read the talking points at this link:

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf

1 posted on 01/26/2014 10:16:56 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Link:

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf


2 posted on 01/26/2014 10:17:31 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
As I write this, some patriotic American is expressing his love of the Second Amendment at a mall in Columbia, Md.

It's retards like the clown that wrote this who should be prohibited from ever owning guns. The boy ain't right in the head.

3 posted on 01/26/2014 10:22:26 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: rktman

Inconvenience is a silly reason to block voter ID laws.


4 posted on 01/26/2014 10:44:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman
Children should never be allowed near a word processor.

Inconvenience is a silly reason not to prevent any random resident to use a car to drive to a bank
Every day, dozens of bank robberies occur with the use of a car.
Some even result in fatalities!

How many people drive to a bank each day?
A tiny minority!

5 posted on 01/26/2014 10:44:58 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: rktman

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be Infringed”


6 posted on 01/26/2014 10:53:30 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: rktman
This isn't about taking anyone's guns away. It isn't about preventing anyone from buying and owning the most obscene weapons, weapons the founders would never have envisioned.

No bias there.

7 posted on 01/26/2014 10:58:08 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: rktman

I could not get past the hyperbole in the 3rd paragraph.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 11:00:20 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: cripplecreek

Touche!


9 posted on 01/26/2014 11:12:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: rktman

*** It isn’t about preventing anyone from buying and owning the most obscene weapons, weapons the founders would never have envisioned.****

Would they prefer the killer had used a Claymore broadsword, in use when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution?


10 posted on 01/26/2014 11:17:43 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: faithhopecharity
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be Infringed”

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President

The rule of law is dead.

11 posted on 01/26/2014 11:27:43 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert

Indeed. He’s cancelled much of the first amendment too.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 11:30:26 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: rktman
As I write this, some patriotic American psychotic moron is expressing his love of the Second Amendment murdering his ex and her new boyfriend, then ending his worthless life at a mall in Columbia, Md.
13 posted on 01/26/2014 11:37:04 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

“....using jojo bidens favorite and approved weapon similar to the one the “lyin’ king” uses on sporting clays almost every weekend. Glow-bull warming permitting.”


14 posted on 01/26/2014 11:45:41 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

Citizens voting is a right AND a privilege. Bringing a legitimate ID to the voting place is the least one should have to do to assure honest voting across the land. How anyone can see it otherwise is outside the realm of common sense.

The well-known Chicago way of conducting an election is having its way with America.

There’s a huge possibility that the Chicago way of elections (vote early vote often, vote Daley) is how the Manchurian candidate got elected to Congress in Illinois in the first place. From that his handlers parlayed the man with a complexion into the national spotlight and used the Chicago way to get him elected president.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 12:05:46 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: rktman

Let’s give everyone a background check. that way we’ll know if they are qualified to vote, hold a job around children or the elderly, who we can trust with money and who we can’t, and yeah if they can shoot well with a handgun or rifle. Those who can’t shouldn’t be allowed to own ammunition.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 12:18:22 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: rktman
"If you're afraid of the government knowing you own a gun, I don't see anything about that anywhere in the Constitution. If we Americans ever did have the right to live secretly, it has been gone for a long time. A really long time."

To know that there are people in this country who actually think this drives me to despair.

17 posted on 01/26/2014 12:30:59 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: andyk

I recently did a web search using these words:

nra blocks funding

This has to do with research related to gun violence in the USA. Is this simply because they do not trust the government to investigate the matter? It seems to me the NRA would have an interest in obtaining accurate information in terms of how often guns are abused or cause innocent deaths. What is your take on this?


18 posted on 01/26/2014 1:22:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: rktman

If our standing army has it, then the citizens who empowered that army should have it, too.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 1:23:35 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: rktman

GUNMAN IN MALL SHOOTING HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MARYLAND_MALL_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-26-16-02-55

“There are a lot of unanswered questions,” McMahon said at a news conference. Aguilar purchased the shotgun legally last month at a store in neighboring Montgomery County.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 1:25:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I did the same search, clicked on an NYT article, and I think Chris Cox explained the NRA’s position quite well.

I know I dont trust the fedguv to research fiddly. Nor is it in their purview to do so.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 1:30:37 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: rktman
From the linked article: "If we Americans ever did have the right to live secretly, it has been gone for a long time."

And yet don't these same people assure us that the right to privacy is what justified the killing of 50 million unborn people?

The only thing that keeps a liberal's head from exploding is the thickness of his cranium.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 1:31:03 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Chris Cox, the N.R.A.’s chief lobbyist, said his group had not tried to squelch genuine scientific inquiries, just politically slanted ones.

“Our concern is not with legitimate medical science,” Mr. Cox said. “Our concern is they were promoting the idea that gun ownership was a disease that needed to be eradicated.”


Here's the text from Cox to which I referred.
23 posted on 01/26/2014 1:42:53 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: William Tell

And the numbness. Even your best shaft and broadhead can’t penetrate there WT.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 1:46:19 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: andyk

Thank you. That makes sense. In the scheme of things, it is difficult to find any research that is not tilted politically one way or another. In the case of citizen gun ownership, I cannot understand why it would *not* be in the interest of the NRA to bring to light incidences of accidents and abuse. I would think sound public policy would instill certain qualifications, among them personal training to be subsidized by . . . constitutionally informed producers.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 2:14:09 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I cannot understand why it would *not* be in the interest of the NRA to bring to light incidences of accidents and abuse. I would think sound public policy would instill certain qualifications, among them personal training to be subsidized by . . . constitutionally informed producers

What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying the RKBA should be constrained by government approved training? I think we have to part ways if that's the case.
26 posted on 01/26/2014 2:39:49 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: faithhopecharity

” men who believe they need state-of-the-art weaponry if the time ever comes to overthrow the government.”

More when the time comes. :-)


27 posted on 01/26/2014 3:08:32 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

C’mon now, the truth will never get in the way of these pansies pushing for registration/confiscation.


28 posted on 01/26/2014 3:36:04 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I cannot understand why it would *not* be in the interest of the NRA to bring to light incidences of accidents and abuse. I would think sound public policy would instill certain qualifications, among them personal training to be subsidized by . . . constitutionally informed producers.

I'll ask again. Are you saying that free citizens should be required to obtain governmental training and approval prior to exercising their 2nd amendment rights?
29 posted on 01/26/2014 4:03:36 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

No. Private training would be best. “Constitutionally informed” means the trainers who understand the separate nature of a citizenry holding its government in check. Required? Not sure how that comports with the text we live under. Extreme example, but I don’t think we want to have 6 year olds purchasing firearms independent of legal supervision.


30 posted on 01/26/2014 7:55:58 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: rktman
the founders would never have envisioned.
The founders envisioned "progress of science and useful arts.” You could look it up. They also envisioned amendments to the Constitution; you could look that up, too. So I guess you need to get busy and convince Congress that it is “necessary” because of the particular progress you mention. If it’s “necessary,” it shouldn’t be hard to get a simple majority in 3/4 of the states.

31 posted on 01/27/2014 3:11:25 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

No doubt that it should be a snap to get that simple majority in 3/4 of the states. Pretty simple. :>)


32 posted on 01/27/2014 7:34:36 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
'Inconvenience' a silly reason to block background checks

Well, you won't accept any of the real reasons, so what do you suggest people use?

Besides, you guys are always claiming the slightest "inconvenience" to your dead and/or illegal alien voting constituency constitutes disenfranchising them, so why isn't it adequate to protect an enumerated civil right?? (Don't have a car, agoraphobic and won't go to town, can't read, can't afford $4 for a photo ID, etc.)

33 posted on 01/27/2014 4:45:56 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rktman
It isn't even about those poor, sad men who believe they need state-of-the-art weaponry if the time ever comes to overthrow the government.

I don't think it's so much about "overthrowing" the goobermint as being able to resist should the goobermint try to overthrow THEM.

34 posted on 01/27/2014 4:48:38 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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