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Posted on 02/04/2014 10:38:03 AM PST by US Navy Vet
...cracked Peyton Manning's hand signal code during the Super Bowl so they were able to predict every play
The Seattle Seahawks have revealed that a good part of their defensive strategy at the Super Bowl came from the fact that they were able to decode Peyton Manning's hand signals on the field. Controversial corner back Richard Sherman said that he and his fellow defenders cracked the code that the Denver Broncos quarterback was using, meaning that they knew exactly what to expect for each play. 'We knew what route concepts they liked on different downs, so we jumped all the routes. Then we figured out the hand signals for a few of the route audibles in the first half,' he said.
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Not know much about football - is that allowed?
Thing is, they blame the Hawks for not “playing fair” or they only won because they cracked Manning’s hand signals. Okay. But then Manning is held responsible for not figuring out that after a few plays the Hawks knew what was going on. But he kept to his hand signals and the Hawks figured it out.
Not KNOWING much...
The Patriots would've gotten a clue and changed their signals at half time. I LOVE IT when brain outsmarts brawn.
As long as no video was recorded no rules were broken. It’s not the Seahawk’s fault Manning became predictable.
Sherman is an idiot. The LAST thing that you announce that that you’ve cracked the opponent’s code.
Hackers from Seattle. Go figure!
Of course. If through your own hard work and observation you can tell what the other guy is going to do it’s his problem, not your.
Now that doesn’t include the Patriots using hidden cameras to record the other teams practice or the Yankees having someone in the stands steal the other teams signals and radio them to the dugout ... those things are still illegal.
Why? It doesn’t matter now. It’s unlikely Demver would use the same code next season anyway, even if Manning does come back.
This would explain a lot, I’m just surprised someone like Manning didn’t recognize that their signs had been compromised and adjust accordingly. Surely the Seahawks aren’t the first to try and decipher Manning’s signals.
Why not? What Belachek did was tape the NYJ defensive signals, from the coach to the players on the field. It would be easy to play the tapes against broadcasts and be able to anticipate blitzs, fake blitzs, etc.
This is like stealing signs (without using the centerfield camera) in a baseball game. Somehow, I doubt that Sherman and his backfield Benchley Park decoded the hand signals “over the board” (as chess players say). More likely the coaches studied tape. If Denver used the same signals all season long, they are mugs and deserve what they got.
From the descriptions of the process, Denver must have been exceptionally clueless Sunday. They spent the first half watching the signals, and calling out their predictions, before settling on the meaning somewhere in the second half. They had to hear some of that, or notice something was up. Seattle had shut down Denver’s offense fairly well before that point, so I doubt it made a whole lot of difference until the substitutes started to play.
So consider this...
Peyton is supposedly mulling retirement. Put yourself in his shoes. If he does indeed retire, it might be construed that he did so having realized his primary audible technique was usurped. One could argue that for evermore, he’d be the guy who cut and ran when his techniques were exposed.
In truth, I actually think Sherman is actually just playing around and the Seahawks didn’t actually decipher his audibles. I think it’s simply gamesmanship. But if it’s true, I think it would make Manning have to return for the 2014 season.
Just think if Belichek had left the Pats after they were found out to have been cheating with the video recording. It would have stained him further. While it’s a little different with Manning, quitting now makes it look like he’s realized he’d lost his competitive advantage.
That may be, but not sure that would have even mattered. The D line and linebackers brutalized the Bronos O-line, and Manning usually had two guys on him and one guy in position to put his hand on the ball pretty much every down. There was no pocket throughout the game.
I have always loved that the reason the Patriots were caught was that the Jets used their camera, which was being used to do the same thing, to record the Patriot cameraman.
I also heard that the password to Peyton’s computer is 123456.
I don't see any way that it could be disallowed. Defenders cover pass routes -- If they get their coverages right, they defeat the opponent's passing game. The coverage chosen is based on any number of factors - down and distance, offensive formation, quarterback (and coach's) tendencies. Figuring out the quarterback's changes at the line is just part of making good defensive adjustments. It's up to the opposing quarterback to counter those adjustments (which Manning obviously didn't do).
So Sherman says they cracked the code rather than totally dominated them? If I was a team mate I don’t think I would like this dude.
You can't spell National Security Agency without the letters in Seattle.
Manning’s codes probably weren’t too difficult to figure out. I recall when they played Dallas earlier this year, every time he yelled an animal name like, “jaguar” or “cheetah” it switched to a run play. It’s brute force, not rocket science.
If Peyton sez => the play is:
Omaha => Snap into the endzone
Omaha => Post Pattern
Omaha => Fly pattern
Omaha => Interception to Linebacker
Omaha => Center Screen to halfback
Omaha => Tight end screen
Omaha => Run off tackle
Omaha => Reverse
Omaha => End around
See a pattern?
Payton is the last of his breed. It’s the end of the pocket QB. Defense coordinators have figured them out. Payton and Eli are finished. The era of the pass and run QB begins.
“Not know much about football - is that allowed?”
Oh, come on. It’s not like counting cards in Vegas.
I hope Manning comes out and says “I don’t use hand signals”.
I figured out the Seahawks’ hand signals after the very first play of the game and after the very first play of the 2nd half — applause.
He will be like Farve. He will retire and then try to make a comeback a couple of times.
Sherman needs to have a full time monitor to authorize him opening his mouth. How can he think anything good will come from such a statement? Basically he is taking credit from his own defensive team mates play and saying that other skills or methods allowed them to run over the offense.
What a fool.
I take back calling him a thug. He’s a cracker!
I don’t think so.
Manning will be in huge demand either as coach (college or pro), college AD, or NFL gm.
Very similar to Harbaugh.
Good QB will always have to be effective from the pocket. Running adds a dimension to success but in the end if a guy can’t master the 3, 5, 7 trees they won’t be an effective QB. Look at RG3, he lacks the pure pocket skills and with his knee in bad shape he was worthless. Meanwhile look at Luck who can run, but he focuses on passing first. Same with Wilson. And there’s still Rodgers and Brees and River, pocket guys are no more a dieing breed now than they were in 1983 when Elway came into the league and people predicted scramblers were going to take over.
Yes...it’s allowed and every team and player tries to read the signals from grade school on. It’s part of the game to do this on the field.
I think the physics of the NFL is actually working against scramblers due to the injury factor. Bigger faster stronger defenders all the time.
Good for Sherman! He continues to be one of the best men on the field!
And bigger paychecks. Who really wants to put the most expensive guy on the team into a position where you know he’ll get hit. Which is why smart running QB get close to the sideline before crossing the LOS, giving them maximum ability to throw the ball away and then a quick escape route when they can no longer throw.
Gosh, I always thought only the Patriots would do such a dastardly thing. Lol. I’m positive that everyone here is sure their team’s coach never would stoop to do what the Patriots did.
So in other words, they cheated.
Peyton Manning has ZERO,ZILCH, NADA personality. Just leave Peyton. Just don’t make Memphis your home.
The WSJ today had an excellent analysis of why Denver lost.
Essentially, it was the ability to pressure Manning without the blitz. They rushed either three or four all day. This allowed an extra linebacker, or even a lineman, to sit five yards out and wreck the pick, while at the same time preventing single coverage receivers from burning secondaries with yards after catch.
Haha! He should have stuck with "OMAHA, OMAHA, OMAHA!!!" I was waiting for it but didn't here it once. And as much attention as that particular audible call received in the last few weeks, I was a little surprised the announcers didn't recognize it during the game as well.
Why would he go to Memphis? Isn’t UT (one of his likely destinations) in Knoxville?
Not one drop of cheating. If you can figure out what the guy on the field is saying (by voice or hand) then you can use it.
I think Peyton explained it as something more or less akin to “HUT!”. The offense would know which occurrence (first, second, third, ...) was the hike signal. The idea was to use the first call on non-critical downs (e.g, 2nd and 6 on your forty in the first quarter) and save the trickery for situations where it could make a difference (e. g., third and four on the opponent’s 11 in the fourth quarter).
They tackled the ball carrier and not the ball as well. Something that seems to be lost on a lot of defenses that were relegated to sitting at home and watching the game on TV.
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