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Seahawks star Richard Sherman says they...
UK Mail ^ | 4 February 2014 | By MEGHAN KENEALLY

Posted on 02/04/2014 10:38:03 AM PST by US Navy Vet

...cracked Peyton Manning's hand signal code during the Super Bowl so they were able to predict every play

The Seattle Seahawks have revealed that a good part of their defensive strategy at the Super Bowl came from the fact that they were able to decode Peyton Manning's hand signals on the field. Controversial corner back Richard Sherman said that he and his fellow defenders cracked the code that the Denver Broncos quarterback was using, meaning that they knew exactly what to expect for each play. 'We knew what route concepts they liked on different downs, so we jumped all the routes. Then we figured out the hand signals for a few of the route audibles in the first half,' he said.

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Sounds like the Seahawks are MY kind of SCUM! :-)!
1 posted on 02/04/2014 10:38:03 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Not know much about football - is that allowed?


2 posted on 02/04/2014 10:40:12 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Thing is, they blame the Hawks for not “playing fair” or they only won because they cracked Manning’s hand signals. Okay. But then Manning is held responsible for not figuring out that after a few plays the Hawks knew what was going on. But he kept to his hand signals and the Hawks figured it out.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 10:40:45 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: KosmicKitty

Not KNOWING much...


4 posted on 02/04/2014 10:41:01 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: US Navy Vet
Sounds like the Seahawks are MY kind of SCUM :-)!

The Patriots would've gotten a clue and changed their signals at half time. I LOVE IT when brain outsmarts brawn.

5 posted on 02/04/2014 10:42:20 AM PST by grania
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To: KosmicKitty

As long as no video was recorded no rules were broken. It’s not the Seahawk’s fault Manning became predictable.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 10:42:47 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: US Navy Vet

Sherman is an idiot. The LAST thing that you announce that that you’ve cracked the opponent’s code.


7 posted on 02/04/2014 10:43:05 AM PST by wbill
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To: US Navy Vet

8 posted on 02/04/2014 10:43:13 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: US Navy Vet

Hackers from Seattle. Go figure!


9 posted on 02/04/2014 10:43:52 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: KosmicKitty

Of course. If through your own hard work and observation you can tell what the other guy is going to do it’s his problem, not your.

Now that doesn’t include the Patriots using hidden cameras to record the other teams practice or the Yankees having someone in the stands steal the other teams signals and radio them to the dugout ... those things are still illegal.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 10:44:49 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: wbill

Why? It doesn’t matter now. It’s unlikely Demver would use the same code next season anyway, even if Manning does come back.


11 posted on 02/04/2014 10:45:48 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: US Navy Vet
Kind of a Snowden thing.
12 posted on 02/04/2014 10:46:46 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: US Navy Vet

This would explain a lot, I’m just surprised someone like Manning didn’t recognize that their signs had been compromised and adjust accordingly. Surely the Seahawks aren’t the first to try and decipher Manning’s signals.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 10:47:56 AM PST by opus86
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To: KosmicKitty

Why not? What Belachek did was tape the NYJ defensive signals, from the coach to the players on the field. It would be easy to play the tapes against broadcasts and be able to anticipate blitzs, fake blitzs, etc.

This is like stealing signs (without using the centerfield camera) in a baseball game. Somehow, I doubt that Sherman and his backfield Benchley Park decoded the hand signals “over the board” (as chess players say). More likely the coaches studied tape. If Denver used the same signals all season long, they are mugs and deserve what they got.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 10:47:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

From the descriptions of the process, Denver must have been exceptionally clueless Sunday. They spent the first half watching the signals, and calling out their predictions, before settling on the meaning somewhere in the second half. They had to hear some of that, or notice something was up. Seattle had shut down Denver’s offense fairly well before that point, so I doubt it made a whole lot of difference until the substitutes started to play.


15 posted on 02/04/2014 10:48:12 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: US Navy Vet

So consider this...

Peyton is supposedly mulling retirement. Put yourself in his shoes. If he does indeed retire, it might be construed that he did so having realized his primary audible technique was usurped. One could argue that for evermore, he’d be the guy who cut and ran when his techniques were exposed.

In truth, I actually think Sherman is actually just playing around and the Seahawks didn’t actually decipher his audibles. I think it’s simply gamesmanship. But if it’s true, I think it would make Manning have to return for the 2014 season.

Just think if Belichek had left the Pats after they were found out to have been cheating with the video recording. It would have stained him further. While it’s a little different with Manning, quitting now makes it look like he’s realized he’d lost his competitive advantage.


16 posted on 02/04/2014 10:48:52 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: US Navy Vet

That may be, but not sure that would have even mattered. The D line and linebackers brutalized the Bronos O-line, and Manning usually had two guys on him and one guy in position to put his hand on the ball pretty much every down. There was no pocket throughout the game.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 10:49:19 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Pan_Yan

I have always loved that the reason the Patriots were caught was that the Jets used their camera, which was being used to do the same thing, to record the Patriot cameraman.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 10:49:48 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: US Navy Vet

I also heard that the password to Peyton’s computer is 123456.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 10:50:22 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: KosmicKitty
Not know much about football - is that allowed?

I don't see any way that it could be disallowed. Defenders cover pass routes -- If they get their coverages right, they defeat the opponent's passing game. The coverage chosen is based on any number of factors - down and distance, offensive formation, quarterback (and coach's) tendencies. Figuring out the quarterback's changes at the line is just part of making good defensive adjustments. It's up to the opposing quarterback to counter those adjustments (which Manning obviously didn't do).

20 posted on 02/04/2014 10:51:17 AM PST by Bob
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To: US Navy Vet

So Sherman says they cracked the code rather than totally dominated them? If I was a team mate I don’t think I would like this dude.


21 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:04 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: US Navy Vet
...cracked Peyton Manning's hand signal code during the Super Bowl so they were able to predict every play

You can't spell National Security Agency without the letters in Seattle.

22 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:09 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Manning’s codes probably weren’t too difficult to figure out. I recall when they played Dallas earlier this year, every time he yelled an animal name like, “jaguar” or “cheetah” it switched to a run play. It’s brute force, not rocket science.


23 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:31 AM PST by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: US Navy Vet

24 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:34 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: GreenAccord

If Peyton sez => the play is:

Omaha => Snap into the endzone
Omaha => Post Pattern
Omaha => Fly pattern
Omaha => Interception to Linebacker
Omaha => Center Screen to halfback
Omaha => Tight end screen
Omaha => Run off tackle
Omaha => Reverse
Omaha => End around

See a pattern?


25 posted on 02/04/2014 10:55:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Payton is the last of his breed. It’s the end of the pocket QB. Defense coordinators have figured them out. Payton and Eli are finished. The era of the pass and run QB begins.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 10:56:02 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: KosmicKitty

“Not know much about football - is that allowed?”

Oh, come on. It’s not like counting cards in Vegas.


27 posted on 02/04/2014 10:59:38 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: US Navy Vet

I hope Manning comes out and says “I don’t use hand signals”.


28 posted on 02/04/2014 11:00:25 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: US Navy Vet

I figured out the Seahawks’ hand signals after the very first play of the game and after the very first play of the 2nd half — applause.


29 posted on 02/04/2014 11:03:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: GreenAccord

He will be like Farve. He will retire and then try to make a comeback a couple of times.


30 posted on 02/04/2014 11:04:31 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: US Navy Vet

Sherman needs to have a full time monitor to authorize him opening his mouth. How can he think anything good will come from such a statement? Basically he is taking credit from his own defensive team mates play and saying that other skills or methods allowed them to run over the offense.

What a fool.


31 posted on 02/04/2014 11:05:47 AM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: US Navy Vet

I take back calling him a thug. He’s a cracker!


32 posted on 02/04/2014 11:06:55 AM PST by McGruff (I'm a Conservative. Not necessarily a Republican.)
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To: TomGuy

I don’t think so.
Manning will be in huge demand either as coach (college or pro), college AD, or NFL gm.
Very similar to Harbaugh.


33 posted on 02/04/2014 11:07:40 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: ex-snook

Good QB will always have to be effective from the pocket. Running adds a dimension to success but in the end if a guy can’t master the 3, 5, 7 trees they won’t be an effective QB. Look at RG3, he lacks the pure pocket skills and with his knee in bad shape he was worthless. Meanwhile look at Luck who can run, but he focuses on passing first. Same with Wilson. And there’s still Rodgers and Brees and River, pocket guys are no more a dieing breed now than they were in 1983 when Elway came into the league and people predicted scramblers were going to take over.


34 posted on 02/04/2014 11:09:36 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: KosmicKitty

Yes...it’s allowed and every team and player tries to read the signals from grade school on. It’s part of the game to do this on the field.


35 posted on 02/04/2014 11:10:51 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: discostu

I think the physics of the NFL is actually working against scramblers due to the injury factor. Bigger faster stronger defenders all the time.


36 posted on 02/04/2014 11:11:38 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: All

Good for Sherman! He continues to be one of the best men on the field!

GO HAWKS!


37 posted on 02/04/2014 11:15:58 AM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: nascarnation

And bigger paychecks. Who really wants to put the most expensive guy on the team into a position where you know he’ll get hit. Which is why smart running QB get close to the sideline before crossing the LOS, giving them maximum ability to throw the ball away and then a quick escape route when they can no longer throw.


38 posted on 02/04/2014 11:16:54 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: ex-snook
In my 43 years of Manning dislike, I have been privileged to see Peyton Humiliated. First time, he lost to Memphis State at home in his Junior year at UT, at home, running an otherwise perfect year. I am 72 on 10 lpm of 02, and been doing the happy dance since Sunday. HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!
39 posted on 02/04/2014 11:18:03 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Oliviaforever
Tim

ROTFL!

40 posted on 02/04/2014 11:18:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Ingtar

Gosh, I always thought only the Patriots would do such a dastardly thing. Lol. I’m positive that everyone here is sure their team’s coach never would stoop to do what the Patriots did.


41 posted on 02/04/2014 11:18:28 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: US Navy Vet

So in other words, they cheated.


42 posted on 02/04/2014 11:19:47 AM PST by MNnice
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To: nascarnation

Peyton Manning has ZERO,ZILCH, NADA personality. Just leave Peyton. Just don’t make Memphis your home.


43 posted on 02/04/2014 11:21:32 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: GreenAccord

The WSJ today had an excellent analysis of why Denver lost.

Essentially, it was the ability to pressure Manning without the blitz. They rushed either three or four all day. This allowed an extra linebacker, or even a lineman, to sit five yards out and wreck the pick, while at the same time preventing single coverage receivers from burning secondaries with yards after catch.


44 posted on 02/04/2014 11:21:42 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Omaha"

Haha! He should have stuck with "OMAHA, OMAHA, OMAHA!!!" I was waiting for it but didn't here it once. And as much attention as that particular audible call received in the last few weeks, I was a little surprised the announcers didn't recognize it during the game as well.

45 posted on 02/04/2014 11:23:21 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: US Navy Vet
Did they have one of these:


46 posted on 02/04/2014 11:23:48 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Coldwater Creek

Why would he go to Memphis? Isn’t UT (one of his likely destinations) in Knoxville?


47 posted on 02/04/2014 11:24:54 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: MNnice

Not one drop of cheating. If you can figure out what the guy on the field is saying (by voice or hand) then you can use it.


48 posted on 02/04/2014 11:26:38 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Hatteras

I think Peyton explained it as something more or less akin to “HUT!”. The offense would know which occurrence (first, second, third, ...) was the hike signal. The idea was to use the first call on non-critical downs (e.g, 2nd and 6 on your forty in the first quarter) and save the trickery for situations where it could make a difference (e. g., third and four on the opponent’s 11 in the fourth quarter).


49 posted on 02/04/2014 11:28:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
"...while at the same time preventing single coverage receivers from burning secondaries with yards after catch."

They tackled the ball carrier and not the ball as well. Something that seems to be lost on a lot of defenses that were relegated to sitting at home and watching the game on TV.

50 posted on 02/04/2014 11:28:26 AM PST by Hatteras
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