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How Conservatives Lost the Light Bulb (and Got it Back Again)
Canada Free Press ^ | 2/5/2014 | Gretchen Olson

Posted on 02/05/2014 8:15:44 AM PST by rktman

Average American conservatives, many of them self-associated with the Tea Party movement, are dancing a little jig, this time in warm light. In the negotiated draft of the recently passed omnibus spending bill, they got their beloved incandescent lights back.

Many only realized after a Christmastime flurry of emails that the yellow bulbs were becoming illegal in 2014. In fact, the federal law which nearly made them extinct for home use has been on the books almost seven years.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: lightbulbs; lights
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Deniers win? More glow-bull warming on the way? Let there be light.
1 posted on 02/05/2014 8:15:44 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman
Too late...

Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas

Thanks for nothing Fred Upton...

Upton switches position on CFL light bulbs

2 posted on 02/05/2014 8:19:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

The CFLs contain Uptonite.

Those making the heavy usage bulbs are making a killing these days but I can’t see government allowing that to continue.


3 posted on 02/05/2014 8:22:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman

funny thing about this is - someone pushed these incandescent bulb bans way back to pay off someone. And those who stood to make the most money in the rush to get (force everyone to get) “sensitive, responsible” squiggly-mercury bulbs were likely foreign manufacturers with dubious political intents. But technology being the mother of invention birthed LED bulbs that last 20+ years, use less power than all of them, and is crashing the squiggly market. As these take over, the feel-good mercury bulb pushers who brainwashed our kids into making fun of non-squiggly bulbs ala Communist Youth Leaguers - have lost out to innovators. I’ll take innovation over coercion/compliance any time.


4 posted on 02/05/2014 8:26:19 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: rktman
Yes, I know. It was/is a really really stupid law.

I have more than a years supply of 60 watt incandescent light bulbs on hand. For possibly another year you will be able to buy them in some places as the inventory dwindles.

But at some point it will come home to the masses, when they cannot buy decent light bulbs for their fixtures. Especially the decorative flame bulbs for upscale light fixtures.

LED lights may be a better solution, but at this point they are not practical for many fixtures.

So. When we retake the senate we might be able to move in the direction of returning leadership in this country to the adults. If we still have any adult leadership.

5 posted on 02/05/2014 8:26:34 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m replacing incandescent light bulbs in my house with LED bulbs as the old ones burn out. Yes, the LED bulbs are expensive now, but wait a little while and you’ll see the price come down probably pretty fast. I bought several at Home Depot (the warm light, not the cool light) and I like them just fine.


6 posted on 02/05/2014 8:35:04 AM PST by 22202NOVA ("Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: rktman

This article doesn’t make sense. Suddenly, half-way down, we have the incandescent bulb back? Do we? How did that happen? I couldn’t make heads nor tails of it.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 8:35:05 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: epluribus_2

The LED’s ain’t cheap on the front end but when we got in our (new to us) house I replaced all the can lights that had the cfl’s with LED’s. Much brighter and supposedly will last a long time making the ROI worth it. Plus, no Hg.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 8:37:09 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Timber Rattler

” - - - Now, Upton says that if he becomes chair of the Energy Committee, he will help undo the law he was instrumental in getting passed. - - - “

Why should anyone believe Upton’s election promises?

Conservative voters vote on what a politician has done, not what is said.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/utpon-switches-position-on-cfl-light-bulbs/#ixzz2sSyqqA2I


9 posted on 02/05/2014 8:40:29 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rktman

The LEDs suck. The same wattage on an incadescent bulb is much brighter than an LED bulb so it takes about 2 LED bulbs to equal a regular incadescent. So here we go again. Instead of ittaking one flush to clear the toilet bowl it takes 2 or 3. Expect them to try and regulate oxygen consumption Total Recall style next.


10 posted on 02/05/2014 8:42:30 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Texas Fossil

I bet we have a 10 year supply of 60s, 100s, and some 3 ways. At least. LOL


11 posted on 02/05/2014 8:45:20 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: rktman
They did away with the 60-watt bulbs , but Lowes shelves are full of 65-watt bulbs. American engineering at it finest adapt and over come
12 posted on 02/05/2014 8:47:22 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: bboop
Suddenly, half-way down, we have the incandescent bulb back? Do we? How did that happen?

Upton and his cronies got all the bribes there were to get, so they don't care any more.

Even though it's legal, the chances that the manufacture will come back from China or Hungary to Schenectady are zero.

13 posted on 02/05/2014 8:49:00 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: rktman

What the ban means is you can’t buy light bulbs for $0.50 any longer.
I’ve got eight closet lights that collectively might be turned on for 5 minutes per month. How long is the wait for a ROI in that case?


14 posted on 02/05/2014 8:50:59 AM PST by GMMC0987
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To: rktman

I don’t think this makes a difference. My understanding is the factories are already closed. If the equipment is still in place, they could reopen them but if they’ve shipped it off, then this is an empty gesture. No jig dancing for me.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 8:51:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: rktman

I hate these things.

16 posted on 02/05/2014 8:52:07 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Texas Fossil

I just bought a bunch of 75’s at walmart the other day.
The shelf was full of 10 packs.

They must have already been in the pipeline.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 8:53:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 22202NOVA

OK, I understand the logic in LED light bulbs. But the supply is simply not there yet.

Now, I think the real cause for this is like the nonsense about Freon. Patent had expired, companies bought the legislatures, redesigned freon, companies made more money.

This is no different. The light bulb manufacturers like GE are political scammers. The politicians are bought whores. Some of them did not realize what they were voting for, but most did.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 8:53:46 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: piroque

Yeah, I’ve seen 72’s, 64’s etc...

Looking for that 98 W bulb, though.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 8:53:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

Congress. What a foul joke.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 8:56:57 AM PST by onedoug
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To: jsanders2001

I’m kinda waiting for them to “grant” babies an allotted amount of CO2 that can be used over their life span. Exceed it and you’re gone. Except for the “protected classes” who may purchase additional credits if “necessary”. Think a new take on “Logan’s Run”.


21 posted on 02/05/2014 8:57:03 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: piroque

I thought I read someplace the “industrial” incan bulbs with a 58 watt rating were available. Some smart someone found a loophole somehow.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 9:00:56 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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I lost a 100 watter yesterday. Sniff! It gave it’s life to keep my water from freezing. R.I.P. Soft White.


23 posted on 02/05/2014 9:02:22 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: rktman

Oh, everyone will be able to “purchase” more carbon credits in their lifetime, but they’ll be expensive enough to accomplish the real goal of the elites maintaining their lifestyle while the “commoners” have to live in squalor.


24 posted on 02/05/2014 9:02:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NEMDF

I have almost as many bulbs as I do ammo.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 9:05:00 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Starstruck
I lost a 100 watter yesterday. Sniff! It gave it’s life to keep my water from freezing. R.I.P. Soft White.

I have a 100 watter under the hood of a loader to keep the block warm on these cold nights. All it takes to make the difference between go and no-go snow plowing

26 posted on 02/05/2014 9:06:56 AM PST by digger48
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To: MrB
I just bought a bunch of 75’s at walmart the other day. The shelf was full of 10 packs. They must have already been in the pipeline.

I have bought those Walmart bulbs also but they don't last very long at all! But hey, our city was kind enough to use our tax money to send two long lasting cfl's to every household, so I put one in a fixture and and it lasted three whole days. I guess I'm a polluter because I didn't waste gas to drive it's mercury riddled corpse to a approved recycling site.

27 posted on 02/05/2014 9:12:11 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MrB

Lowe’s had a special on the 100-watt ( pack of 24 ) couple weeks ago ,don’t remember the price . Did get a couple packs for the barn .


28 posted on 02/05/2014 9:12:45 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: bboop
This article doesn’t make sense. Suddenly, half-way down, we have the incandescent bulb back? Do we? How did that happen? I couldn’t make heads nor tails of it.

It alluded to some provision in a recently passed omnibus spending bill. No idea where to find it or what it says.

29 posted on 02/05/2014 9:12:51 AM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesn’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
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To: rktman
I’m kinda waiting for them to “grant” babies an allotted amount of CO2 that can be used over their life span. Exceed it and you’re gone. Except for the “protected classes” who may purchase additional credits if “necessary”. Think a new take on “Logan’s Run”.

Didn't you just describe obamacare?

30 posted on 02/05/2014 9:13:32 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MrB
The problem with 75W and 100W incandescent light bulbs is heat. Never use on in a phenolic light bulb socket. That is why they say not to put over a 60 watt light bulb in them, normally on the fixture itself.

There is a similar issue with clear incandescent light bulbs. They give off much more heat than a frosted bulb. But normally those bulbs outlast the frosted bulbs by a lot. If you use clear light bulbs, use them in a well vented fixture.

31 posted on 02/05/2014 9:13:45 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: epluribus_2

GE was behind the lightbulb ban.

In fact, GE is behind most of the bad global warming science, so as to push its “green” electric turbines and windmills.


32 posted on 02/05/2014 9:14:09 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: rktman

Yeah,

Guy in NJ, the loophole was that heavy duty or rough duty (not sure about exact language) was not impacted by the ban. He got court approval and was looking at starting up production.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 9:14:55 AM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesn’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

In our wills..... the 60 watt bulbs shall be divided equally, per person, to the children and grandchildren who survive me... blah blah


34 posted on 02/05/2014 9:18:51 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: MrB

LOL! We’ll have the “opportunity” to buy the extra credits. Only us peons won’t be able to afford them and the “protected classes” will have no problemo. Business as usual.


35 posted on 02/05/2014 9:20:48 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Mastador1

DOH! You caught me. LOL ;>}


36 posted on 02/05/2014 9:22:22 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
A little pricey but here's what I found.

Newcandescent.com

37 posted on 02/05/2014 9:22:43 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: NEMDF
“bet we have a 10 year supply of 60s, 100s, and some 3 ways. At least. “

I have a lifetime supply of 100 watt bulbs. I like it Bright.

38 posted on 02/05/2014 9:26:15 AM PST by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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To: digger48
I have a 100 watter under the hood of a loader to keep the block warm on these cold nights.

I do think their would be a market for at least 100 watt incandescents. Probably not for a large corporation. In the winter I can get 6 weeks continuous use out of a bulb. To me that would be worth paying a couple of bucks per bulb which is still available but I see that supply drying up.

39 posted on 02/05/2014 9:43:21 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

yet 250 Watt heat lamps are still available.

Way more than is needed in many cases, costs more to use, so it wastes far more coal-fired electricity just to make liberals feel good about themselves


40 posted on 02/05/2014 9:52:24 AM PST by digger48
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To: Starstruck
It gave it’s life to keep my water from freezing. R.I.P.

Yep. Sub-zero in northern Idaho this week and I had to transition from keeping a bulb lit to keeping the heater on full time. It's cheaper than burst pipes.

When we built my well house one of my contractor's kids "helpfully" replaced the incandescent with a CFL. "They run cooler and they're more energy efficient," the little guy chirped. Dad was not amused.

41 posted on 02/05/2014 10:01:37 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Cool. That’s the guy who “discovered” the Rough-Service loophole?


42 posted on 02/05/2014 10:12:25 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: piroque

The same thing happened when the 100 watt bulb was banned. Shortly thereafter, the shelves were stocked with 90 watts. Congress has way too much time on its hands - they need to be part-timers to keep them from screwing up everything in our lives.


43 posted on 02/05/2014 10:30:44 AM PST by Catsrus (A)
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To: NEMDF

Same here, 300 plus light bulbs bought at $1 4/pack and 50 cent/4 pack,none GE. I won’t even buy a light bulb from GE.


44 posted on 02/05/2014 10:41:08 AM PST by libbylu
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To: rktman

I love leds, I love low flow toilets, I love water heaters that won’t ignite fumes, and so on, the problem is that they are forced on us a decade or more before they are adequate to win over the market place.

Using law to force these beta products on the consumer 10, 15, even 20 years before they are ready, wastes billions of dollars, and immeasurable amounts of resources and energy and landfill space.

I’m paying $5.00 and $8.00 per bulb to buy led bulbs because I am a gadget guy, and I am willing to put out money when I have it, to manage long term costs for when I don’t have money, but neither of those applies to my upper middle class female friends, I still can’t recommend leds to them.

I detest this cycle of the left forcing good things on America before those good things are ready for prime time, so we then go through billions of dollars worth of junk and throwaways, and complaints, and a destroyed image for the whole idea or product.


45 posted on 02/05/2014 10:45:36 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: bboop
This article doesn’t make sense
46 posted on 02/05/2014 10:49:29 AM PST by caveat emptor (Always be polite !)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That’s the guy who “discovered” the Rough-Service loophole?

I'm pretty sure it is, but it's not so much a loophole as contractual fulfillment. Certain commercial, industrial applications require them. And get this, so do some government agencies. The bastards!

The company is located here in NJ, about 70 miles north of me.

47 posted on 02/05/2014 10:54:46 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: MrB
looking for that 98W bulb though.

I won't have to look for awhile.....like a few decades. I find that it's much easier to read with a 100 watt light bulb than anything else, focusing that wattage on my food when I eat makes me more satisfied with less food, and the heat from them is pleasant on a cold winter day.

It does not make sense to pretend we're still a free nation when we had to stockpile enough high-wattage light bulbs to last a lifetime.

48 posted on 02/05/2014 10:56:39 AM PST by grania
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To: Focault's Pendulum
I'm pretty sure it is, but it's not so much a loophole as contractual fulfillment. Certain commercial, industrial applications require them. And get this, so do some government agencies. The bastards!

They should do what the rest of us had to. I have a garage stacked to the roof with 'em.

49 posted on 02/05/2014 10:59:04 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: rktman
"The lesson is obvious: tribal politics are a distraction. What you don’t know about those 1000-page bills can hurt you, no matter who is in the Oval office and which side of the aisle is promoting them."

Too sadly true, especially since Congress Critters don't seem capable of READING them, or if so, understanding what they entail in the larger scope of things.

50 posted on 02/05/2014 11:24:19 AM PST by SuziQ
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