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Dems push to ban e-cigs on Capitol grounds
The Hill ^ | February 5, 2014 | Elise Viebeck

Posted on 02/05/2014 3:13:57 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seven Democratic lawmakers are pushing to ban the use of electronic cigarettes on the grounds of the Capitol complex as part of a wider campaign against them.

Led by the Senate's second-ranking Democrat, Dick Durbin (Ill.), the group called on rulemaking committees in both chambers to include e-cigarettes in the Capitol's existing ban on smoking in public places and near building entrances.

"Given preliminary [federal] research finding harmful chemicals present in e-cigarettes, measures should be taken to ensure that the public is equally protected from the potential dangers posed by e-cigarettes and their vapor," the lawmakers wrote Tuesday.

Via a spokesman, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told The Hill on Wednesday that he would pursue the rules change.

The letter marks the latest in a series of actions by congressional Democrats to curb e-cigarettes.

Four of the seven senators included in Tuesday's letter accused the Golden Globe awards last month of "glamorizing" e-cigarettes after the show featured two celebrities smoking them, including "Veep" star Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

The same group has also urged the Obama administration to speed up its efforts to crack down on the devices.

Mostly unregulated at the federal level, the e-cigarettes vaporize a nicotine solution in order to simulate regular smoking.

Supporters say that "vaping" is a healthier alternative to smoking because it leaves out the noxious chemicals found in many conventional cigarettes. Some also say e-cigarettes have helped them quit regular smoking.

But critics argue that the battery-powered devices deliver a more powerful dose of nicotine per puff, posing a serious health risk.

Tuesday's letter was signed by Sens. Durbin, Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; ban; banwatervapor; boxer; capitol; democrats; durbin; ecigban; ecigs; followthemoney; harkin; nannystate; scam; schumer; smokingiscool; watervapor; waxman
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1 posted on 02/05/2014 3:13:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 02/05/2014 3:14:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Further demonstrates that the demonic party is all about control ... they want you to OBEY ... they want you to surrender your will to them in all things great and small.

They think they’re god ...


3 posted on 02/05/2014 3:16:16 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban............they’re never happy


4 posted on 02/05/2014 3:16:42 PM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They should just go for the end-game.

You may not enter a 5-mile radius of the capital unless you have been frisked, pockets emptied, body-scanned, DNA-sampled, and pose no real threat to your betters.

There’s only one way this gets fixed folks. If you haven’t settled in on that reality it’s time to get in the game.


5 posted on 02/05/2014 3:20:53 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Did these people site any studies that prove that the vapor coming from e-cigs are harmful?

NO?!?!

Well, isn’t that special!!

(Good LORD, do we need to get these pricks out of office ASAP)


6 posted on 02/05/2014 3:21:29 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: RandallFlagg

“Did these people site any studies that prove that the vapor coming from e-cigs are harmful?”

No. They just can’t stand the fact that technology has circumvented their fascism.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 3:23:56 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: RandallFlagg
From NewSun.com article from the German Cancer research Center.

The study goes on to say that the findings revealed the following about the emissions of e-cigarette: a) besides glycol (the main ingredient), nicotine, flavors, tobacco-specific nitrosamines, volatile organic compounds, acetone, formaldehyde. acetaldehyde, benzo(a)pyrene as well as silicate and various metal particles are present, and b) the particle size is between I00 and 600 nanometers, which is comparable to the particle size found in tobacco smoke of conventional cigarettes. The levels of most harmful substances are lower in thee-cigarettes than in conventional cigarette smoke, but they do accumulate in indoor air.

http://www.newssum.com/e-cigarettes-contain-formaldehyde-and-toxic-199

8 posted on 02/05/2014 3:24:07 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These people are just frikken nuts. Unbelievable!


9 posted on 02/05/2014 3:24:31 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“But critics argue that the battery-powered devices deliver a more powerful dose of nicotine per puff, posing a serious health risk.”

They are lying. When you buy the cartridges, you choose low nicotine, medium, or high. I get the low and I would bet most people don’t go above medium because people get them to drop down on use of nicotine. High nicotine users are likely still smoking real cigarettes.

I vote to put all those Democrats wanting to do this, in prison where they will have nothing disturbing them.


10 posted on 02/05/2014 3:26:31 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: TheZMan

I’m fine with that, so long as those looking at that “end game” are also not allowed to leave. We can just tell them their “laws” are being followed and let them live out their days in la-la land.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 3:27:12 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sherrod Brown was a big doper, probably still is.


12 posted on 02/05/2014 3:29:50 PM PST by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Marcella

I haven’t tried e-cig’s. I am battling now to stay way from the “hand to mouth” part of the habit. BUT, those I know that use them I truly find no issue with when I am around them, none. This is just more politicians pissed at freedom. For me now, I am nicorette (six weeks tobacco free). I’m going to give it a few more weeks and start the process of ditching the gum and finally getting free of this wretched chemical.


13 posted on 02/05/2014 3:30:55 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Mastador1

All companies that make the nicotine combination have their own way of doing it, so the cartridges are not all alike. The one I get makes the nicotine liquid in America.

One would have to know exactly which combination the German group studied. If they didn’t study those made in America, then the study is faulty.


14 posted on 02/05/2014 3:31:16 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oh fer cryin' out loud ... what the ....

Honestly ... some people should just disappear.

15 posted on 02/05/2014 3:34:25 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You might get e-cancer


16 posted on 02/05/2014 3:35:47 PM PST by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Let’s ban lying around the Capitol grounds. Unhealthier than e-cigs.

Strap every congresscritter to a lie detector and let constituents question them. If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.

Maybe extend this to bureaucrats also. No need for all these investigations and so forth. No coverups or anything. Then we can control them.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 3:40:55 PM PST by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I just switched last week to an e-cig after 35 years of smoking two packs a day and it couldn’t have been easier. I haven’t even remotely considered trying a real cig since. I’m loving already feeling so much better. Lungs already feel 200% better as well.

I’m convinced counter to what they preach that the pols want you to keep contributing from each pack.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 3:41:41 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Let’s legalize pot but God forbid we allow someone to inhale/exhale vapor. They can KMA.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 3:44:52 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These are the same idiots that splatter blood on “fake fur” just because it looks like fur and thus should be banned less anyone wear real fur.

And since left wingers are morons and hypocrites, why do they always make their tofu look like meat? Huh? Answer that left wing twits!!!! I say “BAN TOFU”


20 posted on 02/05/2014 3:47:58 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: NorthMountain
Further demonstrates that the demonic party is all about control ... they want you to OBEY

I am occasionally confronted about my smoking by quitters who seem to me to resent my not having joined the club. It pi**es them off that I'm still enjoying a good smoke.

One woman, a perfect stranger, said, "don't you want to live?"

Instead of mumbling vague apologies about my moral weakness, I asked her how she dared ask such a question of someone she didn't even know. It felt good.

21 posted on 02/05/2014 3:49:15 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No taxy no likey


22 posted on 02/05/2014 3:53:29 PM PST by heights
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To: Ghost of SVR4

“I haven’t tried e-cig’s. I am battling now to stay way from the “hand to mouth” part of the habit. “

I found that to be *the* hardest part ... so difficult that I use e-cigs with zero nicotine liquid.

While I feel like a complete idiot for not having the will power to overcome this stupid addiction, using the e-cig is certainly helping me beat that problem.

My other problem is that I actually enjoy smoking from time to time. I just don’t like it enough to do it habitually like I did in the good old days :-). Still, I’d choose better quality of life over smoking any day of the week :-).


23 posted on 02/05/2014 3:54:46 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What if the pres is up there and wants a smoke.


24 posted on 02/05/2014 3:55:06 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What if the pres is up there and wants a smoke.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 3:55:59 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: heights

“No taxy no likey”

Yep ... and the products are everywhere ... if they tax the regularly available ones like Blu, people will simply order them from other places.

Personally, I think these D’s are doing the bidding of the tobacco lobbyists ... I don’t think this is a tax issue just yet ... I stress yet ... anti-smoking drug pharmacy company lobbyists are probably a close second in the “you better fix this” group.


26 posted on 02/05/2014 3:58:21 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: edh

No two people are the same, but you can do it. I quit on April 19, 2001 and have never looked back. Fortunately for me, I used a product that worked. Can’t even remember the name, but I took it for eight or ten days before stopping, as recommended. It worked.

I’ll try and see if I can find it on Google.


27 posted on 02/05/2014 4:02:21 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Marcella
All I did is cite one study I found, I do not attest to its accuracy or know it's parameters. Despite the fact that as an ex smoker who gets very ill now at the smell of cigarettes, I think the government is going way overboard in micromanaging smokers in open areas.

Today CVS announced that they were stopping all sales of tobacco and someone I was speaking with hailed it as great news. I told her that it was great news for their competitors and asked her if we were still living in America where people could live as they chose.

28 posted on 02/05/2014 4:02:26 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: billhilly

Here it is. http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/bupropion-hydrochloride-zyban-for-quitting-smoking

I hope someone will find that it works for them as well as it did for me.


29 posted on 02/05/2014 4:14:29 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Mastador1

I heard that about CVS. There is one a couple of blocks from my house and a Walgreens directly across from my house, so smokers won’t go to CVS, will go to Walgreens.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 4:16:50 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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31 posted on 02/05/2014 4:18:52 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Marcella

Exactly what I told this woman, also I told her that the customers lost by CVS would not be just the smokers but also people like me who are sick and tired of controlling tactics. The government says they want everyone to stop smoking while at the same time heavily taxing smokers to pay for their little social programs. And here in Taxifornia we have idiot voters blindly following idiot celebrities like “Meathead” Rob Reiner.


32 posted on 02/05/2014 4:23:51 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is really their cause of the day?..they’d be better off to keep trying to change the name of the Redskins.

Shesh, liberals have nothing better to do!


33 posted on 02/05/2014 4:27:51 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Mastador1

What brand of batteries did they use? I imagine if you get imports of batteries and e liquid from China you might find some of that. I bet the tobacco companies funded the research.


34 posted on 02/05/2014 4:48:05 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Elyse

Wow, I just googled and formaldehyde is found in normal human breath. So, I guess next we will not be able to exhale in Washington.


35 posted on 02/05/2014 4:56:03 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Libs are nazis about tobacco and all for legalizing Marijuana. It makes no sense to me. Further, “vaping” causes no third party harm as regular cigarettes are reputed to do. It makes no sense to ban e-cigs unless you have an irrational hatred for scented water vapor.


36 posted on 02/05/2014 5:05:13 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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.... and a Walgreens directly across from my house, so smokers won’t go to CVS, will go to Walgreens.

Not necessarily. Some time back Walgreen's had a deal with the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation for "surveying" the customers who purchased tobacco products. Walgreen's require ID and would scan it and send the info to RWJF.

My guess is RWJF money is involved with the CVS decision as well, because they are starting a quit smoking campaign in conjunction with getting rid of tobacco products.

The portfolio that provides RWJF with the majority of its funding is made up of Johnson & Johnson stock - guess what J&J makes? Smoking cessation products.

37 posted on 02/05/2014 5:24:37 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Marcella

I used the high nicotine for one year. Am now on the medium for 6 months and then will go to low for another 6 months. After that i am done with smoking period.......and ecigs helped me do it!


38 posted on 02/05/2014 5:53:02 PM PST by sheana
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To: Gabz

“The portfolio that provides RWJF with the majority of its funding is made up of Johnson & Johnson stock - guess what J&J makes? Smoking cessation products.’

Gabz,you always have such informative posts.

Nothing related to the smoking insanity is about health,it’s all about money-—either taxes or profits.

.


39 posted on 02/05/2014 6:07:59 PM PST by Mears
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Via a spokesman, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told The Hill on Wednesday that he would pursue the rules change.

Because there aren't any other IMPORTANT things to worry about. F***kn commie!

40 posted on 02/05/2014 6:14:31 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Led by the Senate's second-ranking Democrat, Dick Durbin (Ill.), the group called on rulemaking committees in both chambers to include e-cigarettes in the Capitol's existing ban on smoking in public places and near building entrances.

There is a serious ongoing campaign to force the Federal Executive Department to conform to the limitations that the Constitution imposes on ALL branches of government. The Constitution is the sole protection that WE THE PEOPLE have against arbitrary, capricious and abusive acts of government. ALL of it.

THIS INCLUDES PROTECTION AGAINST THE IGNORANT MORONS IN CONGRESS.

Can these intellectual giants be unaware of the legal requirements necessary to justify and defend scientific challenges to arbitrary and capricious laws that can be based (or challenged) on the basis of Science?

The low or "no" information citizen (as well as any members of Congress with b***s) might profit from simply the casual knowledge of Rule 702 of the Federal Rules of Evidence that apply when something tht involves science is involved. But someone has to challenge the arbitrary proposed law!

41 posted on 02/05/2014 6:14:35 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: 3Fingas
I suspect these numbskulls are thinking, "Look at those idiots, getting around our Perfectly Reasonable restrictions on smoking by using these e-cigs. Bastards! We gotta stop them!"

Doesn't exactly pass for adult-level cogitation, but that's what I suspect they're thinking.

42 posted on 02/05/2014 6:14:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But critics argue that the battery-powered devices deliver a more powerful dose of nicotine per puff, posing a serious health risk.
Tuesday's letter was signed by Sens. Durbin, Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.)

These resident low IQ Congresscritters seem totally unaware that options with ecigarettes is low or NO nicotine whatsoever!

43 posted on 02/05/2014 6:20:04 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
E-cig vapor looks like analog cigarette smoke. Too difficult for enforcers to tell the difference. Liberals don't like the analogous suggestion to ban drinking water in public because it looks like vodka or gin.

But it is fun to poke the liberals anyway.

44 posted on 02/05/2014 6:36:58 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Mears
Nothing related to the smoking insanity is about health,it’s all about money-—either taxes or profits.

And control...........

45 posted on 02/05/2014 6:59:13 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 02/05/2014 9:33:49 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: headstamp 2

And last year I vaped my e-cig in the hallway leading to Nancy Pelosi’s office, while her staffer fetched my 7 year old a bottled water.

Bastards!


47 posted on 02/05/2014 9:37:23 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Marcella
There is one a couple of blocks from my house and a Walgreens directly across from my house, so smokers won’t go to CVS, will go to Walgreens.

Yep, and that will include their prescription drugs too.......bad movc on CVS's part.

48 posted on 02/06/2014 2:51:43 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I think I've lost my mojo.....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So, where is the study little dicky durbin? Hmmm, my bet is it contains a lot of words like “might, may and could.”


49 posted on 02/06/2014 11:51:44 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: diverteach; Marcella
I switched to 'em just shy of two years ago....painless transition.

The bonus is it's easy - and often fun - to act like a kid and "sneak" a lungful where it should be verboten. My personal best is the pre-op area right before getting my gallbladder yanked.

50 posted on 02/06/2014 11:56:29 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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